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JuanPablo
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Posted: 2007-05-23 22:22
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Hi all

I have a question. I have a 2GB Memory Stick Pro Duo and I use it with my W700. But it's nearly full and I want to store more songs

I've uploaded all my songs in 192 kbps. My question is... is 160 kbps enough? The quality is (almost) the same? Is there a huge difference between 192 and 160 kbps?

I listen to music with the headset (included in my W700, I don't know the name )

Thanks in advance

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Marc_SE
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Posted: 2007-05-23 22:24
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My suggestion for queries like this is always:

encode a song at various bitrates i.e. 96kbps, 128kbps, 160kbps and listen to each. Choose with your ears and encode accordingly based on your decision.
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umerhayat
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Posted: 2007-05-23 22:50
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l use 128kbps and i think they are ok to listen

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antichrist
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Posted: 2007-05-23 22:53
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imo, if you use your music to listen on the phone, 96 is enough. but if you want to listen to music on your stereo via phone, 160 and more
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Posted: 2007-05-23 22:56
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On 2007-05-23 22:24:22, Marc_SE wrote:
My suggestion for queries like this is always:

encode a song at various bitrates i.e. 96kbps, 128kbps, 160kbps and listen to each. Choose with your ears and encode accordingly based on your decision.



Ok, I'll try that, thanks

BTW, in which quality are your MP3 files?


EDIT: I need more opinions people. To all the people that own a Walkman phone: in which quality you have your music? 192 kbps? 160? 128?

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Posted: 2007-05-23 22:58
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mine are 128 and more. same on computer
one album is even 320
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Posted: 2007-05-23 23:13
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@antichrsit.

I really can not agree with 96kbps being good enough especially not if in MP3, but then i suppose not everyone has the same requirements for quality. Personally i wouldn't use the bundled headphones that came with my device either and would rather have quality over quantity any day. My set up is in my signature and i will listen to Music for 1 hour or two straight, if it wasn't of a good quality that would just be horrible. I encode @ 160kbps AAC which in my set up produces a full rich sound.

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antichrist
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Posted: 2007-05-23 23:27
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i agree with you, but can you feel the difference between 96 and 160 on phone? (i mean on speaker, not the headphones)
as you can see from the above post, i also want quality over quantity(that's why i even have some songs at 320)

sometimes i play music from my phone at parties; last friday i was asked to play some music in a small club from my phone since there was a problem at the computer with club's music. so quality all the way
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Posted: 2007-05-23 23:35
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@antichrist,

Oh the beauty of living in the digital age as otherwise how big a Record Box would you of needed to have that much Music with you and just happen to have it with you at that time.

But this is the point i am trying to make a phone should have a good enough player that if you encode your music in high enough quality and use good head phones it can can comfortably replace the need for a dedicated MP3 player as otherwise IMO what's the point. I could not dream of trying to listen to Music on any phones built in speaker as really it is designed for voice not for Music and the whole point of good headphones is they will sound better than speakers as everything is channeled straight into the ear. Listening through headphones you hear parts of the track you miss through speakers for me good headphones produce a better result and are my preference.


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Posted: 2007-05-23 23:42
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On my computer the totality of my music are in 128kbps , for the phone i use he-aac for don't waste space.
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Posted: 2007-05-23 23:46
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All mine are 320
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Posted: 2007-05-24 01:34
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my mp3's are at least at 128kbps...sure 128kbps is not enough for a pro music listener but may do the work in everyday listening...for years i used to convert my mp3's to 128kbps due to memory lacking of my mp3 player but all of a sudden i realized the issue that quality ALWAYS should be prefered and now that i know the fact,i'd never waste my time listening to mp3's having bit rate less than 160kbps........
those times i couldn't realize the difference between 128 and higher,and had been kept saying there is not much difference especially when using portable speakers or mid-quality earphones(ofcourse i knew i was cheating myself but couldn't help it coz wanted more music with me)...now that i have a 1GB M2(still not enough though,but at least would handle a 2-3 day mood) i clearly see the priority of quality and now that i'm not cheating my self no more,the difference shows itself...

so take my advice,the higher the bit-rate of mp3 is,the more you enjoy your music(even if you can't realize the difference)...
so curiouse just wondering how come 2GB is not enough ???definetly you would not listen to all these gigs periodicaly in few days.all 2 gigs are not in the same mood and the mood of a certain music doesn't come back everyday,then i would have changed my music through pc every 3-4 days if i were in your shoes(as i'm doing so...)

thanks...


+ : i'm hopefully looking forward to seeing days when i can store my 280GB music archive on my M2 Memory stick at once and having all of it with me when i insert the memory stick into my k800( ofcourse in those days i have nor k800 niether M2 )
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Posted: 2007-05-24 01:49
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i suggest
160kbps with 48000hz
or
192kbps with 44100hz


difference is 192kbps is larger by 1mb (song was 4.77mb from the 160kbps - now its 5.72),,dont see much difference but its better than selecting 256,320kbps for your phones music

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Posted: 2007-05-24 02:25
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80kbps contstant or vbr is the minimum for good enough quality running 44khz anything below pah is like listening to radio quality
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Posted: 2007-05-24 05:44
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96 Kbps(radio quality) will do enough for me, 128Kbps is the standard CD quality. if you are not so buffy with audio quality, you can hardly discern the differences between the two.
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