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goldenface
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Well if need be, the middle man only need handle the cash, then the phone is only sent from the seller to the buyer when the middleman is holding the cash.
Plus, its only optional.
And lets face it, if you can't trust masseur, batesie, Peterkay and Scottt then who can we trust. 
All we are doing is ensuring that anyone who wants to trade on here has the option of using a trusted member as a middleman.
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PeterKay
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Who would pay the postage for the middleman?
Most items would be RMSD i guess, is it the buyer or the seller?
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BobaFett
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its not about if u trust the mentioned members or not. i just mean, that old members trust each other anyway, so they have to face probably new mebers, where it could come maybe to "difficulties"... once again, its really a great idea and i do honour, if any of us is ready to coordinate all this. respect.
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goldenface
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On 2007-05-25 09:41:30, PeterKay wrote:
Who would pay the postage for the middleman?
Most items would be RMSD i guess, is it the buyer or the seller?
Well if the middle man is holding the money only then it could be transfered into each others bank so there would be no postage in that scenario.
Sending money through the post by RMSD is covered up to £2500 and costs £4.30.
So I guess it would have to be decided if/when the traders decide to use the middleman - they could even split the cost.
@boba
The co-ordination isn't an issue.
When you think about it there is just one extra transaction.
Say if you bought a phone from me and I had zero feedback:
1) you would send the money to say Peterkay - a trusted member.
2) I would send you the phone
3) If you are happy you tell Peterkay to send your money to me.
4) If not happy then send the phone back.
5) Your money is returned to you by Peterkay.
Right, because this is in its early days, I think its a good idea to stick to the initial four middlemen and we can enrol more if an when they are needed.
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BobaFett
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how to avoid those situations, where buyer made up her/his mind ( it can happen ) just because she/he says some crap and dont wanna take the fone ( scamers are evrywhere ), but the seller wont accept her/his point and say: we had a deal, u agredd, end of the story. i dont wish to point in first line on negative things, but i see and hear some many bad stories and in this case, a third person would involved too, as he would stay in the middle of the fireline.
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goldenface
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If a buyer changes their mind while the middle man still has the money then they won't receive their money back until they return the phone back to the seller.
Once the transaction has been done then any disputes would be between the traders.
Which is why I think its a good idea that the middleman only handles the cash - and not the phone.
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BobaFett
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i do hope, that buyers and sellers will do appreciate, honour and respect the middle mens "job" too and they ll use the midll mens help, when both are sure in a deal
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goldenface
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If disputes happen when a middleman is not used, the seller can just cut off all communication and disappear without a trace.
This way, that simply can't happen.
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batesie
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Well i'm happy that all of these things are being discussed and all eventualites covered.
Also, if anything needs to be collected/delivered in the London area i might be able to do so in person if that helps increase the amount of trust. |
goldenface
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..... and for a small extra charge, batesie also delivers, Pizza, DVDs, Ice Cream and Popcorn - service with a smile  as always.
Well if someone appears on Esato with low feedback selling, what appears to be a bargain, then using the middleman would be recommended - its better than getting burned.
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axxxr
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On 2007-05-25 10:34:48, batesie wrote:
Also, if anything needs to be collected/delivered in the London area i might be able to do so in person if that helps increase the amount of trust.
Gosh your keen!
Since your up for it could you also pick up my drycleaning mate? 
goldenface: I'd be willing to assist in any way that i can, so you can put me down aswell.
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goldenface
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I think we should start off with just the 4 volunteers, remember this is only a pilot scheme plus its optional too so I think it would only be rarely used (famous last words  )
However, I think there should be the option there and I would recommend this to anyone purchasing something from someone with zero or very low feedback.
I'll get back with an update.
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