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goldenface
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:05
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After seeing what has been going on in the Esato Markets recently, here and here its about time something was done about it.

I was thinking that for all trades done where the feedback is on the low side then a Treasurer should be nominated to keep hold of the goods until the payment has been received.

Any more ideas would be welcome.

So far:


  • Batesie
  • Scottt
  • Masseur and
  • Peterkay



have offered their services.

If anyone has any objections to these fine people becoming a middleman for trade transactions then let us know.

If you think you can offer your services as a middle man then please let us know.


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maggflodd
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:18
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that's a great idea!!! I might even consider selling/buying here then... at the moment, NO WAY!!!
Nice thought, goldenface... but maybe hard to administer???
Laffen? Bobafett, sir???
axxxr - your mi6 office should be a secure place???
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masseur
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:20
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the suggestion of escrow has been brought up a few times and I have even offered to do this myself (and indeed have done so a couple of times for a member here), but it doesn't seem to have much popularity, possibly because it doubles postage costs and also delays the transaction.

...but perhaps thats a price that has to be paid for safe transactions
goldenface
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:28
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There seems to be a lot of it about at the moment, may be its needed as a temporary measure and optional of course.

The treasurer of course would have millions of positive feedback.

Personally, trading here at the moment, I wouldn't mind paying another £3-5 on postage if it meant things going smoothly.
Nanu
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:29
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Excellent idea something needs to be done, I must admit I was a little hasty in Paying, but can I really be blamed for being so trusting? and it was only afterwards I realised exactly who he was!

It wouldn't be so bad if there were enough "Treasurers" dotted about so that exchanges of goods could be done in person but again this is a lot of hassle!

I know I would certainly help out where possible!

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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:30
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Escrow is the best way of making a secure transaction.

a treasurer from here, well they would have to be elected, and want to do it in the first place! i guess in therory for purchases over a certain amount it would be a good idea.
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:31
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well, I'm always here to help, though I don't have millions of feedback, but hopefully I can be trusted just a bit

anyway, thats just one possibility as there are several here who fit the bill IMHO
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:33
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Well if there was an elected pool of Treasurers then the work load would be shared so they would only have to act as Treasurer very rarely.

Also, he/she would have to be acceptable to both traders.

Oh, and the treasurer could only act on one transaction at a time?
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batesie
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:45
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i dont mind helping in a transaction now and then. [addsig]
goldenface
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:52
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I don't think you can elect yourself batesie

Hooray, batesie and Masseur are our 1st in the pool.

Shall we get MikLSP involved. Maybe he can draw some system of voting and listing?

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maggflodd
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:56
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this might be the right place to bring up an idea I had earlier this week.
Reading about a few guys who had phones stolen, who were ripped of etc etc... I though, heck, yeah, and then you're broke.... While there's folks here (myself included) who have "old" phones they no longer use but cannot be arsed to sell....
So, I thought I'd pass on my od kxxx to a worthy member "in need", and that member could then pass it on to someone else once the problem is solved... or return it to a treasurer - maybe paying for postage!?!

Obviously, the system would have to be protected against scammers????

What do you think??? [addsig]
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Posted: 2007-05-18 10:57
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On 2007-05-18 10:52:21, goldenface wrote:
I don't think you can elect yourself batesie

Hooray, batesie and Masseur are our 1st in the pool.

Shall we get MikLSP involved. Maybe he can draw some system of voting and listing?

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good idea, what about if the person has met face to face with a certain amount of people.? maybe top 20 posters and high feedback traders?

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maggflodd
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Posted: 2007-05-18 11:02
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On 2007-05-18 10:57:21, batesie wrote:
good idea, what about if the person has met face to face with a certain amount of people.? maybe top 20 posters and high feedback traders?
BATSIE, GOLDENFACE'S IDEA OR MINE?
Yeah - something along those lines... I mean, obviously, there are people you get to "know" over time, who you trust regardless of distance... so there I wouldn't hesitate to "help out" anyways; and I'd say realistically (sadly) you'd have to have some kind of post-number to qualify for the social scheme, otherwise people would join just to "borrow" phones, and esato would crash!?
But hell, it's called online-community!!! I wouldn't mind putting my phone where my mouth is - pun intended

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batesie
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Posted: 2007-05-18 11:09
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this thread is more about a middle man for transactions...

but your idea is good, but i wouldnt think theres many people willing to lend a complete stranger a working phone for an unknown amount of time... [addsig]
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Posted: 2007-05-18 11:12
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@batesie

There are a few members on here who have met face to face and that can also be vouced for, so that in itself is another built-in level of trust so to speak.

Great!

Quite a lot of trading does go on here so it shouldn't be too difficult to build a core pool of traders who can be easily trusted.

Shall we keep it to a limted number of say 10 or so or have an open amount?

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