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[k750i] Is that possible. 220x176 3gp or mp4 |
pinkypinky Joined: Jan 19, 2007 Posts: 11 PM |
Hello,
Is that possible to make some changes in firmware which will allow k750i to play 220x176 movies in fullscreen mode...?! It's a great shame for now the limits are 176x144.. in fullscr it looks really crappy.. any ideas?
greets
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tranced Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: Sto. Dgo., Dominican Republic PM |
no i dont think so
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Bambino Joined: Sep 17, 2005 Posts: > 500 From: Clow Kingdom PM |
Im afraid it cannot. coz limitation by 3gp format standarization. the available res for 3gp: 176x144 & 352x288
for mp4: 176x144, 320x240, 352x288, 480x320 & 640x480
but unfortunately k750i only support 176x144. while newer model support up to 352x288 |
pinkypinky Joined: Jan 19, 2007 Posts: 11 PM |
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but unfortunately k750i only support 176x144.
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it's so strange that we can do almost everything with that phone.. and nothing can be done with that issue..
well, I just have to wait for k800 than... for now it's still quite expensive..
cheers
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imachine Joined: Feb 04, 2007 Posts: 5 From: PL PM, WWW
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hello,
it might however be possible to play these media fullscreen, just like the 'sony demo' proggy does - as long as you maintain the file in phone memory (so that limits it's size somewhat) and name it 'Demo Tour' and put it into 'Videos' folder. Just run the Demo Tour program later from 'Entertainment', i'd reckon it only checks for a file name and location (as long as it's in the phone memory it ought work fine).
This isn't tested (yet ) but it might just work - at least it will remove the nasty black crops from the film you're about to watch, another thing is the proggy just might also be able to scale films down a notch, hence 352x288 films could look a lot better then (well, look at all actually, since I tried uploading one like that, the phone would register it as video, but it was unable to show it on it's screen).
Cheers!
Edit:
Ok, so as I suspected the app is simple enough (and/or cool enough with its' simplicity) to play any file named Demo Tour.mp4 as long as it's placed inside 'Videos' in phone memory and it's possible to play it by the phone's codecs, so video encoded with either mpeg4 or h263 (3gp) and either aac or amr_nb audio (tho not tested with aac, it would seem logical it works, since the original file is coded aac, comparison between files below).
There is not a possibility of scaling the films down unfortunately, and since only h263p (plus) is capable of encoding with different sizes (like say 176x220 which is the k750i's resolution) even tho the movie is playable on my pc, it won't show up on the phone.
Here go the data:
Encoding a xvid file into my file...
Input #0, avi, from 'xxx.avi':
Duration: 00:01:06.8, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1143 kb/s
Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 512x368, 29.98 fps(r)
Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 112 kb/s
Output #0, 3gp, to 'xxx.3gp':
Stream #0.0: Video: h263, yuv420p, 176x144, q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 25.00 fps(c)
Stream #0.1: Audio: amr_nb, 8000 Hz, mono, 32 kb/s
And my file vs original SE 'Demo Tour.mp4'
Original:
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Demo Toura.mp4':
Duration: 00:01:16.9, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 217 kb/s
Stream #0.0(eng): Audio: aac, 32000 Hz, stereo
Stream #0.1(eng): Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 176x144, 15.00 fps(r)
Mine:
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Demo Tour.mp4':
Duration: 00:01:06.9, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 236 kb/s
Stream #0.0(und): Video: h263, yuv420p, 176x144, 25.00 fps(r)
Stream #0.1(und): Audio: amr_nb, 8000 Hz, mono
Cheers! and happy testing
ps. it's not that much of a gain anyway tbh, the films show slight pixelazation on fullscreen and the battery prolly gets munched up quicker as well due to higher screen usage, so it's all mostly just for the jokes. enjoy nonetheless 
[ This Message was edited by: imachine on 2007-02-05 16:42 ] |
_-livio-_ Joined: Jan 31, 2007 Posts: 7 From: Romania PM |
v630 can even play 320x240 mp4 files,and the screen is allmost the same as k750/w800 so it should be possible to make it play higher resolution video.on my w810 if i try to play any video other than 176x144 it just shows a dark brown screen but the audio works fine,you can hear the movie
[ This Message was edited by: _-livio-_ on 2007-02-05 19:13 ] |
imachine Joined: Feb 04, 2007 Posts: 5 From: PL PM, WWW
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As I said before, it's a matter of scaling down the video - an external java media player might be well capable of doing so - it's not too hard prolly (I'm not a java dev so then again I can't be certain, but the codecs are there so it's hardly rocket science to make use of them ) and the 'Demo Tour' app proves that scaling is well in the phone's range of abilities.
I do get the same as you mentioned with higher res, both thru my little 'hack' and thru normal media player.
Cheers
[ This Message was edited by: imachine on 2007-02-05 20:13 ] |
antichrist Joined: Sep 26, 2006 Posts: > 500 PM |
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On 2007-01-29 02:14:00, nokiamaniax wrote:
but unfortunately k750i only support 176x144. while newer model support up to 352x288
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tell me a phone that support 352*288 video playback.
to play a 352*288 video YOU NEED A 352*288 SCREEN, otherwise, it will be SCALED!!!
btw, .mp4 supports any resolution, including 320*136
[ This Message was edited by: antichrist on 2007-02-05 22:54 ] |
_-livio-_ Joined: Jan 31, 2007 Posts: 7 From: Romania PM |
scaled to which resolution?'cause it would be great if the phones would play 176x220 videos,it would be cristal clear quality on fullscreen |
imachine Joined: Feb 04, 2007 Posts: 5 From: PL PM, WWW
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scaling down is not (ought not be) a problem; scaling up causes pixelization and nastiness we'd all rather avoid,
cheers. |
jumpjump Joined: Feb 07, 2007 Posts: 37 PM |
Allow k750i to play 220x176 movies in fullscreen mode, the only way is to convert your movie file formt such as avi, mpeg,wmv to mp4 format using 3gp video converter,
http://www.my-video-converter.com/video_to_3gp/
make use of it, you can Crop Video to specify the size you want to crop the video as you like when you converting,you can view below for the size,(Drag the dashed frame to specify the cropped video size
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http://www.my-video-converter[....]line_help/Cropping%20Video.htm
hope to help you,
[ This Message was edited by: jumpjump on 2007-02-07 09:44 ] |
imachine Joined: Feb 04, 2007 Posts: 5 From: PL PM, WWW
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I don't find that possible, unless you can back it up by experience, tho you'd be standing ground against mine, since I tried a mp4 film with x220 res and it wouldn't play (same as other films with higher res - brown screen and audio only).
Cheers! |
jumpjump Joined: Feb 07, 2007 Posts: 37 PM |
Do you have tried, I tried my friend's v630 with 3gp video converter,convert avi to 3gpp/mp4, even can play 320x240 mp4, specify the size i required,why not you? |
c_vignesh Joined: Aug 16, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: TamilNadu,India PM, WWW
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I have used Super to convert a video to play @ 220x176 mp4
http://www.erightsoft.com/Superdt.html
to play in a w550i ...but the file didnt play
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_-livio-_ Joined: Jan 31, 2007 Posts: 7 From: Romania PM |
v630 can play 320x240 resolution video,but k750/w800 and w810 just won't.anyone know how to extract those settings from the v630 firmware and upload them to our phones? | |
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