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Posted: 2008-01-10 15:17
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Raiderski

Is it all right with EXIF ISO information in 6.7u?

Bellow are 2 crops from serial pictures. 1-st AF mode EM, 2-nd - Macro-ON, MF, EM, but sorry EM_RATIO=3a (i like fast shooting )

1-st ISO=800, exposure 1/20



2- nd ISO=320 exposure 1/8



Pay attention at noise level. I guess it should be more noise on 1-st snap, but it is vice versa. I check it several times.
leetiran
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Posted: 2008-01-10 16:21
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I have the similar cases. the Exif bug seems still in 6.7.1u
Raiderski
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Posted: 2008-01-10 16:37
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679
can you send me pics or give step by step procedure for each pic? after many attempts i'm still with nothing wrong in EXIF

leetiran
yes, i'll have my own big K in next week. now i have borrowed big K in my pocket everyday. my W800 grandpa still roxx but after 2 years i decided to try something new

BTW. 679 if you can please check how other driver with EM (with 3a) behaves in this case

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Posted: 2008-01-10 16:56
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On 2008-01-10 14:52:57, Randolph wrote:

On 2008-01-08 21:18:38, Kriomag wrote:

On 2008-01-08 20:40:00, fernyperez wrote:
Anybody mind answering my question about the sharpness value for a cid49 with cid36 cam module.....?

max sharpness value depends only on cammodule version

for CID36 cammodule: max value is 6
for CID49 cammodule: max value is 5


Just one question, maybe interesting for other cam-module-changers:
In an K750 CID49 with CID 36 Cam module sharpnes can be set to 6 as max value? And there are no problems with the rest of the phone´s hardware?
THX,
randolph




I changed 5.3 camdriver´s sharpness level to 06 (maximum apparently for CID36 cam module). However, difference in pic quality is minimum (at least i can´t spot much difference). What i don´t really get is why do the original CID36 K750s take a lot better pictures with camdriver 4.5 when this driver has sharpness level at 04 ?? I swapped cam modules on mine and the only difference i see from the cid49 module is that night pics now have hardly any noise and are pretty sharp, and u get the full 4x zoom. However low light pics (like the one i posted in a room with just a lamp on are still grainy even if u use NM+LED. I can assure u that a mate´s K750 cid36 takes sharper pics than mine even though now we both have identical cam modules... It´d be great if experienced modders like Raiderski, Chengrong, Kriomag etc could explain this a little, that why on a cid49 with cid36 cam module, pics are still pretty grainy and less sharp, compared to a full cid36 phone, and also, on this cid49 - cid36 module swap, what would be the best firmware and camdriver to use.
Any answers will greatly be appreciated,
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Raiderski
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Posted: 2008-01-10 18:52
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EXIF ISO issue...

no issue. this is happening only if you change EM ratio value to something else than 40. the same is on 21.92, so i guess it's on every driver with EM

EXIF ISO issue fixed in 6.7.1u was completely different thing

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fernyperez
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Posted: 2008-01-10 19:37
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Kriomag, does your 21.93 Beta work well with cid49 w800 r1bc002? Coz all the modded camdrivers i´ve used work terribly with this firmware (remember i swapped cam modules to cid36 also).
Cheers

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Kriomag
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Posted: 2008-01-10 20:00
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On 2008-01-10 19:37:23, fernyperez wrote:
Kriomag, does your 21.93 Beta work well with cid49 w800 r1bc002? Coz all the modded camdrivers i´ve used work terribly with this firmware (remember i swapped cam modules to cid36 also).
Cheers

My brother has cid49 phone/cammodule and my driver works fine (fine with cid49? lol ) - best results i have with my cid49 phone with cid36 cammodule - less noise!!! and working zoom and saturation change.
Tomix
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Posted: 2008-01-10 20:06
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I see many of you change the cam modules... What is this cam module and where to get it and how to change?
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Posted: 2008-01-10 20:33
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On 2008-01-10 20:06:13, Tomix wrote:
I see many of you change the cam modules... What is this cam module and where to get it and how to change?

the only way to get cid36 camera module is old k750i (broken/crashed but with untouched camera module)
I changed my camera module in service (private phone store/service ? my english sucks ), they had broken k750i but with almost as new cid36 camera module it costed me only ~17$ (50zł)
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Posted: 2008-01-10 22:14
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Now understand and all i have to say is f**k! I have to live with cid49... Btw. My english isn't better

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Posted: 2008-01-10 22:54
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oh, Tomix you have CID49 module? then i understand why you have overexposure during EM/ENM shots. yes, this is often in CID49
Mr.Kája
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Posted: 2008-01-10 22:59
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Common boys:) I live with cid49 and it's easy living... I haven't seen really big-enough reason to buy new module and open phone. I can make good photos too:)) Many people think, that with new module will come miracle (although don't know why) and then, they are a bit disillusioned. So, then, for miracle is better new phone Ach, I wish, k750 could have cam module from sony, which have imobile 902 (what a irony:)) ((
Nowadays, I'm enjoying Elm, fw R7BA076.

And here camdriver database for k750/w800/w810: www.camdrivers.wz.cz
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Posted: 2008-01-10 23:33
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You know something, Mr.Kája, you´re half right. Changing cam modules doesn´t give you the exact quality that CID36 phones have but it does correct it quite a lot. I bought mine from eBay Germany, this shop that sells new cid36 cam modules (or probably used and taken out from cid36 phones). It only cost me 8 euros + postage, about 12 eur in total. However, you´re right in that there´s no really big reason in changing nor is there a huge difference in quality. What i notice is that pics now are sharp at night and have no noise, but are still grainy with low light, nevertheless. Also, day pics are sharper than before, there´s no noise when photographing shade and you also get the full 4x zoom. Where i´m going crazy right now is trying different camdrivers because i just can´t seem to get the quality that cid36s have. For someone who likes photography, best option is waiting and getting a phone with optical zoom so u always have phone and camera on u (better wait for prices to go down first). However, for people who just want to quick snap a particular moment when u don´t have a camera on u, the K750 is just fine.
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Kriomag
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Posted: 2008-01-10 23:38
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On 2008-01-10 15:17:18, 679 wrote:
Raiderski

Is it all right with EXIF ISO information in 6.7u?

Pay attention at noise level. I guess it should be more noise on 1-st snap, but it is vice versa. I check it several times.
...

who uses high ISO ? you must be a masochist
if you take picture with high iso the detail level are same as low as you would have taken this picture with 640x480 resolution and then resized it to 1632x1224
Raiderski
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Posted: 2008-01-10 23:49
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ISO800 was mistake only, very easy to reproduce in EXIF for sure this value in real was lower than 320 (something similar is on 2nd pic). as i wrote before this faulty EXIF description is possible only when EM ratio is changed in code

BTW: EM code changes done by leetiran with small modification can be quite good solution for 679. final result is ISO160 pic but with half exposure time of original EM code

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