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Menageryl
Joined: Aug 14, 2004
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From: South Africa
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' @adhnk1: Check out my replies to aquila2 and you'll see I managed to find \"solid\" info on a number of Blokia's re. RAM - including N80 (45MB total / 19MB free)...
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aquila2
Joined: Sep 20, 2004
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I was not claiming that nokia S60 phones have more memory, but I was just saying that it is more then 10mb.
it is simply not true the 10MB you stated.
the amount of RAM on S60 varies from 20-30MB.
and yes it is 2-3 times less then emplyed on UIQ 3.0.
anyways, N93 and P990 should not be compared.
E61 or E70 is a directcompetition to P990, and in both cases P990 loses. not to mention, E61 is already available and costs around 300 euros less offering more ...
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Symbiatico
Joined: Mar 10, 2004
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Aquila wrote:
anyways, N93 and P990 should not be compared.
E61 or E70 is a direct competition to P990, and in both cases P990 loses.
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I was just curious, how one can base an opinion on what makes a phone "loses" a competition, as you wrote.
I've had my P900 for 2 and a half years now and it recently gave up on me, screen failure I suppose. I resorted to a leftover Nokia 7610, Series 60, which I know quite well. Let me just say this: When you get used to the P-series and the jog dial, not to mention the touch screen and writing recognition, S60 would definitely be a lesson in patience. Multi-tapping to add numbers and appointments? How can anyone do this all day?
Opera Mini, my app of choice nowadays, is quite good on S60, but the problem is, again, the 4-way linear mode of navigation.
I sincerely hope my P900 can be fixed, cheap that is. But meanwhile I am slowly addapting to clicking my way through with the Nokia.
It's not the numbers or ticking the right boxes on a spec sheet. It's all about the jog-dial and touch screen, folks.
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aquila2
Joined: Sep 20, 2004
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well, did you try E61 ?
the ergonomics is _way_ better then P series.
I've been using various touch screen based devices since 1999 but I find the ergonomics of P-series the worst I've ever experienced.
the problem is exactly that you _must_ use at least two hands to operate the phone. horrible.
and on the old P-series, the jog dial was a 5way button, wheres in the P990 it is two way only! this could be a real mess ...
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Menageryl
Joined: Aug 14, 2004
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' Er... No... The jog-dial on the P990 is a 3-way... But I agree that going from a 5-way to a 3-way is already a mess! <G>
' However, at the same time you're conveniently skipping over the fact that we're dealing with an entirely new interface here!!! UIQ v.3 keeps all the good aspects and interface methodology of UIQ v.2.x whilst adding additional options - optimization for one-handed use for one...
' As such I don't think you can possibly compare the E-Series to the P990 as yet - not until one has had hand-on experience with both (in final release versions!!!)!
' I expect, however, that due to the pure number of interfacing options made available to one on the P990 that this will put down the E-Series - at least from the perspective of this argument re. ergonomics!
' Oh! I've been a PDA / mobile-device user since 1995 and have experienced a really, really large subset of different devices and device-types, ergonomics, etc. and I still find that the P-Series devices are among the best all-round devices I've ever had the pleasure to use.
' So I suppose what this really says is \"different strokes for different folks\" - everyone is going to have different wants, needs and requirements and different views on what's good, great, bad, etc.
' <Shrugs>
' ~Moi
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ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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| E61 or E70 is a directcompetition to P990, and in both cases P990 loses. not to mention, E61 is already available and costs around 300 euros less offering more . |
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i donīt know why anyone listens to this guy anymore...he uses always the same stupid unbased arguments...heīs only guided by is hate to SE
go back to your planet aquilla
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adnhk1
Joined: May 23, 2002
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On 2006-05-25 15:16:04, Menageryl wrote:
' @adhnk1: Check out my replies to aquila2 and you'll see I managed to find "solid" info on a number of Blokia's re. RAM - including N80 (45MB total / 19MB free)...
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Hi, thanks for your info, and I just did a check on allaboutsymbian which shows ?? for available RAM for the N80.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/devices/item/Nokia_N80.php
So it seems like only My-symbian is showing 18MB at boot time. |
jack77777
Joined: Apr 11, 2006
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p990i cheaper and better looking
15% online - Sony Ericsson - "4 lyf" |
adnhk1
Joined: May 23, 2002
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@ quila2,
"it is simply not true the 10MB you stated. "
How many times do you need me to repeat that I DID NOT STATE N80 having 10MB of RAM, but rather, I was using mobile-review's N80 OWNERS' who feedback over that particular forum? If you want to QUOTE anyone, please go to mobile-review's forum and pick those owners who claim the 10MB RAM.
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adnhk1
Joined: May 23, 2002
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On 2006-05-25 23:09:57, aquila2 wrote:
well, did you try E61 ?
the ergonomics is _way_ better then P series.
I've been using various touch screen based devices since 1999 but I find the ergonomics of P-series the worst I've ever experienced.
the problem is exactly that you _must_ use at least two hands to operate the phone. horrible.
and on the old P-series, the jog dial was a 5way button, wheres in the P990 it is two way only! this could be a real mess ...
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Well, as a matter of fact, I did. I attended local Nokia's seminar at their invitation a few months back. Yes, I tried E61 and I find it funny that you can claim a Blackberry challenger device which is much wider than a BB 8700g to be more ergonomical than a P series? If, as what you claimed, that a P series phone cannot be operated with only ONE hand, the you can forget about the E series of phones being economical. E61's QWERTY keyboard is so wide and it definiftely needs 2 hands to operate.
Strangely, as opposed to what you think, I honestly don't think anyone needed 2 hands in order to operate the flip closed keypad of ANY P series... Please don't flame me, but perhaps you can ask the millions of current P series owners whether they can operate the keypad using only 1 hand?
And lastly, yes, I will listen to Arez for his advice. Thanks Arez  |
dantheman82
Joined: Sep 07, 2005
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i have been a sony ericsson fan for a long time but nokia does seem to be getting its act together n80 in black ftw |
Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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Hi all,
I just stumbled across this very interesting thread and i must say it made for some very interesting reading and also quite amusing as it seems most that were shouting the virtues of Symbian being Ram efficient and there awesome multitasking abilities now seem to of been proved utterly and completely wrong. The latest incarnations of Symbian are now Ram eating monsters irrespective of which manufacturer has implemented them as this was meant to be a P990 or N93 thread prior to both being available and now they are it is only down to personal preference and needs as to which one is the right choice both have there plus and minus points.
Marc
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bitnaut
Joined: Jul 08, 2006
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Forget the N93...now there's the N95 with 5Mpixel camera and integrated GPS!
http://www.photokina-show.com/0421/nokia/cameraphone/nokian95/
I'll still keep my 990i though 
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mib1800
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
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In the latest firmware, N80 bootup free RAM is about 23MB. N93 also have about this free RAM. The P990 UIQ OS is a hog using 45Mb leaving 19Mb free on boot.
P990 (if it is stable) is a more compelling buisness device than N93. On all other fronts, N93 beats the P990 with its much better hardware spec. And N93 somehow looks nicer than the blocky p990.
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Posted: 2006-05-25 15:16
