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indiannawaf
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Posted: 2005-12-12 14:39
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There is so much dirt under my joystick that i think its affecting UP movement of the joystick. I took apart my k700 but could only clean the sides of the joystick. I could see a layer of dirt under the joystick but couldnt reach it. How can i remove that dirt? When i move my joystick up out of ten times only five times it works.
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JT
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Posted: 2005-12-12 14:42
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Try using one of the small attachments on your vacuum cleaner. Be careful not to suck up any important parts though
indiannawaf
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Posted: 2005-12-13 06:59
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Did not work. Its like a sheet of dirt which is stuck under my joystick. I think i can remove it with a pair of forceps but i am afraid it might harm it.
absinthebri
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Posted: 2005-12-13 07:00
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Try using a slightly damp cotton bud; it works for me.
blackspot
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Posted: 2005-12-13 07:15
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spray it with contact cleaner.
resistance is futile.
numb
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Posted: 2005-12-13 11:41
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On 2005-12-13 07:15:13, blackspot wrote:
spray it with contact cleaner.




Oh No for god sake - dont do that, you will immediately ruin the lcd display. Spraying any kind of moisture or fluids into the phone immediately creeps in between the 3 panels making up the lcd screen and instantly kills it beyond repair. Beleive me, I have one dismantled K700 from a customer lying on my table right now for repair, a customer that exactly tried to clean his joystick by spraying it with contactspray.

Theres only one way to properly clean the joystick, and thats manually. I advice to get it done at a service centre, its not difficult but does require some technical skill, some care and the right tools. First you remove the housing and the keypad, then remove the protective aluminum covering by unscrewing the 4 screws (torx6)holding it and the pcb in place. When the aluminum convering is removed, the pcb and components are free. Gently lift away the keypad pcb, and gently lift up the lcd screen, they are attached to the pcb with small electronic ribbons, be very carefull not to detach (they are a pain to attach again) or ruin those. Then the joystick are complete free and you can see how its soildered to the pcb. Gently lift up the joystick button slightly and you can see underneath the button how its covered in dust/dirt affecting movement. It gathers up like a litle ring around the joystick. Carefully remove this dirt with some small tool available and your joystick will be good as new.

Again, I advice to get it done at a servicecentre by someone who knows what they are doing, and take no responsibility for any damage you might do to your phone by trying to do it yourself, but if one is handy and carefull its not that difficult.


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S4k1s
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Posted: 2005-12-13 11:52
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It's not dirt ...
It's a protecting thin pillow.
vanquish
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Posted: 2005-12-13 12:39
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Mate, phones are phones and imho they do get old. If you can try and wipe it or vacuum it but sometimes its just wear and tear [addsig]
indiannawaf
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Posted: 2005-12-13 14:11
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@numb - Thanks for your helpful advice. I am not going to touch the screws even in my dream. Its better i take it to a service centre.

@S4k1s - Its a pillow? Do you have it too? Then why is it affecting my UP movement?

@vanquish - Old? I bought it a month and a half back.
numb
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Posted: 2005-12-13 14:52
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On 2005-12-13 11:52:20, S4k1s wrote:
It's not dirt ...
It's a protecting thin pillow.



It is also an area where dust and pocket dirt gathers and affect the joystick response, I have made many customers happy about their K700's again by simply cleaning this.
S4k1s
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Posted: 2005-12-13 15:04
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@ indiannawaf: Yes, check this out...

I don't know what material that is made of but it's not dust ... having said that... dust can get stuck there so maybe u should try blowing at it.
JT
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Posted: 2005-12-13 15:07
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I wouldnt try blowing at it, as it may get pushed in further.
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S4k1s
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Posted: 2005-12-13 15:16
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It can't get pushed anywhere...
It's a pillow with a hole in the middle.
But it it got dust on it he could blow away the dust.

I know this for a fact because a friend of mine had the same problem. Joystick did not respond well when pushed down. He took the phone apart... saw the "dust" and removed it with a pair of scissors
During that removal we saw it was not what we thought it was;) My phone got the same pillow.
Also I should say the joystick worked much better after that pillow was removed. But probably have their reasons for putting it there at the first place.
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Posted: 2005-12-13 18:31
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hmmm, just a thoguht but why dont you just pull off the top of the joystick, I had a similar ptoblem on a couple of k700i's and you can pul off the top, then pull the crappy stuff off and bingo ur fone works(dont forget to put the joystick cap back on), and you dont need to take it to a service center
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numb
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Posted: 2005-12-13 23:44
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It is what is callled "nullermænd" in my country, I dont know the english word for it, its not dust as such but fnuggles, dirt, small hairstraws etc like in your pocket which gathers into a more solid form when it mixes with moist, static electricity etc. It looks and feels different for each K700 depending on how the composition of dirt, dust, fnuggles whatever got mixed up during time. It should be removed.

yes, you can take off the top of joystick cap for easier removal, just be carefull not to pull to hard, cause if the cap is a bit stuck you can damage the soildering when pulling it off.
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