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GOwin
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Posted: 2005-10-04 14:56
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Namiss ko na yung mga kwentuhan and discussions about technology and gizmos so I'm starting this new thread.

This isn't the chit-chat thread. So, please don't bother posting if you don't have anything useful to add to the discussion.

For starters, let's talk about the creeping (re)deployment of CDMA in the Philippines.

We just found out that Broadband Philippines (airnet.com.ph) and Digitel are beggining to offer CDMA services.

My real interest however is their mobile/wireless internet service. Airtel claims better thoroughput than GPRS. (Will they try to compete with Pldt/Smart weroam service or Globe's Visibility service?)

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[ This Message was edited by: GOwin on 2005-10-06 01:13 ]
619
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Posted: 2005-10-04 20:16
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tested the dial up speed of mango (digitel) using www.bandwithplace.com and i got 97.5kbps

will test the dial up speed of airtel later....

will also test the speed of their pcmcia card speed later. [addsig]
GOwin
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Posted: 2005-10-05 11:04
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airtel dialup is sloooww compared to wifi but comparable to GPRS.

dunno about speed in EV-DO areas (Makati CBD, Ortigas CBD).

EV-DO is being touted as among top, wireless broadband technologies today.

[ This Message was edited by: GOwin on 2005-10-05 10:33 ]
arnoldc
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Posted: 2005-10-05 17:22
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gowin, the airtel url you posted is for sale CDMA EV-DO is supposed to compete with EDGE. so how fast are you going with airtel?

619, you subscribed to mango na? i don't like the per minute charging. not attractive to me.

anybody has smart wi-fi already?
619
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Posted: 2005-10-05 17:49
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arnoldc.... airtel kami

P2.00 per 5 mins... for the phone usb laptop connection via usb [addsig]
dlreyes
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Posted: 2005-10-06 01:46
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Airtel's EV-DO is suppose to be faster than EDGE as it is 3G compliant.

Interestingly, I've been searching for EV-DO devices in the market already to take advantage of their reasonable rates compared to unlimited PLDT WeRoam or Globe's unlimited gprs.

One seemingly good source is http://evdo-coverage.blogspot[....]g-rod-jolts-v620-v650-and.html

Since I'm a PDA user, I'm taking an interest in the Audiovox xv6600, a pocketpc phone with EVDO compatibility.... it may also serve as a bluetooth modem for other devices...
GOwin
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Posted: 2005-10-06 02:03
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@dlreyes
try the following links
evdoforums.com
evdoinfo.com

@619
am trying to get my hands on the Kyocera KPC650 Looks like a better card than what they're offering and it's OSX compatible too.

Now we need to know if they'll activate this card on their network.

PS
SonyEricsson has an EV-DO phone, the WS21s:


EDIT
me bad. it's not airtel. it's AIRNET. Their useless URL is at airnet.com.ph

Local calls are free.
Internet rates P2 / 5 minutes.
Competitive NDD, IDD toll rates.

This could be an excellent topic for another tech EB.


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dlreyes
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Posted: 2005-10-06 02:11
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trying to check the EVDO USb but I could not find any... I figure this would be a cheaper alternative.
GOwin
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Posted: 2005-10-06 02:21
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Actually, if you're planning to get both data and voice service, you opt for a phone that suppoerts CDMA 2000 1x EV-DO, like the WS21S. There are also nice phones from the Koreans - LG, Samsung ...

But, yeah, plain USB modems would probably be cheaper. And you can easily move it from a laptop to a desktop machine - with whatever OS. (same thing applies with the EV-DO phone)

Background
The highspeed internet access in select CBDs uses EV-DO. Outside these areas, they fall back to 1xRTT. (The one we tried at Greenhills.)

We should have an eb at Ortigas or Makati.


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arnoldc
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Posted: 2005-10-06 02:25
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will someone with nothing to do today , post a comparative costing from the different providers/subscription options?

Like this:

Smart Wi-Fi | 128kbps | P688 / month unlimited
PLDT WeRoam Mobile | 128kbps | P2,000 / month unlimited

ayan, nasimulan ko na... may gagawin na ko
GOwin
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Posted: 2005-10-06 02:29
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heheheh

sasamahan kita.

airnet (data only)| 200 - 700kbps | P950 +vat a month, unlimited.*
airnet (voice + dialup) | 70-120kbps | P550 or P750 + vat for voice rate. they charge extra for toll calls, and P2 for every 5 minutes.

*The catch here is that you need to buy a data card. They're selling it for P16,000. There are options for deferred payment or you can rent it.

@dlreyes
check this page:





No info on pricing and availability yet and aren't approved on american networks yet.

most EV-DO phones uses the clamshell design.

[ This Message was edited by: GOwin on 2005-10-06 01:50 ]
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Posted: 2005-10-06 04:22
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Smart Wi-Fi | 128kbps | P688 / month unlimited (this is not mobile but wireless connection to your office or home, using big antennae or carry on top of your car)


PLDT WeRoam Mobile | 128kbps | P2,000 / month unlimited

Globe unlimited grps | 128kbps | P1,700 / month unlimited

Digitel Mango cdma | 153.kbps | P0.25 / min MSF P660 incl vat for voice rate local to local call, P0.40 mango to mango sms | P0.80 mango to other network

airnet (data only) | 200 - 700kbps | P950 +vat a month, unlimited.*
airnet (voice + dialup) | 70-120kbps |MSF P550 or P750 + vat for voice rate | P2.00 / 5mins

*The catch here is that you need to buy a data card. They're selling it for P16,000. There are options for deferred payment or you can rent it.
[addsig]
GOwin
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Posted: 2005-10-06 04:28
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Smart's "WiFi" is what we call fixed wireless. You can't use it in your car unless you decide to park it permanently on a specific spot and configure it to pick up a signal from a specfic base station.

It's actually Meridian Telekoms "DSL" service - which is partly owned by Smart/PLDT.

(Why do these marketing people insist on redefining terms to suit their own needs?!)

Also note that Globe's Visibility and PLDT's WeRoam service also offers unlimited access to WiFi hotspots and dialup access in their high-end plans.

[ This Message was edited by: GOwin on 2005-10-06 03:30 ]
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Posted: 2005-10-06 04:54
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they shld stop using WIFI

instead they shld use:

gprs/edge for smart and globe
cdma for mango and airnet
802.11 for those hotspots
bluetooth

whats meridian's category?
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rj
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Posted: 2005-10-06 05:36
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does starbucks phils offer free hotspot? are there other coffee shops that offer such thing? how about city-wide free wifi? we have one here in cali, sa Pasadena, which is about 20mi from Los Angeles..

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