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silencer1
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Posted: 2005-08-18 19:58
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Guys, if i want to add mp3`s to the phone, and just browse the folders i have uploaded, without having a list of like 200 songs, how do i do it?, i cant beleive the media player shows all songs, no option for directorys? weird, just like my old nokia 6230, crap....

lol...

I have a 1gb pro duo by the way.
clos420
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Posted: 2005-08-18 20:05
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i guess what your asking is if you can catogorise them?

in the main menu of the media player you can creat new folders and transfer mp3 in to them...but the k750 does not have the "archiving" abilities of the w800
planty
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Posted: 2005-08-18 21:33
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as you transfer albums to the phone create playlists in the phones media player and there they are easy to look through and play about with
silencer1
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Posted: 2005-08-18 21:55
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Hmm, well i have 50gb of music all named in album folders, and all tracks named 01 - 02 - 03 - you get the drift, so i would rather just open the folder and play, i hate playlists, dont se the point.
quaeler
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Posted: 2005-08-18 22:18
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the notion of playing all songs by artist X off album Y is, in itself, a playlist.

that nit aside, that media player is pretty insufficient for doing most things that modern humans have come to expect from an mp3 player (like:
. allowing the browsing of mp3s by artist or album
. reading m3u playlists
. having a shuffle function that isn't braindead
. reading track information from id tags
. etc )
silencer1
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Posted: 2005-08-19 00:43
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See thats where i want it simple, i dont and have never used any of that crap on any player, i have folders with each album in, ie

Band - Album Name

In the folder

01 -
02 -
03 -

I just want to open the folder, select song 1 and play, thats all i ever do, and im happy see
victorh017
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Posted: 2005-08-19 01:59
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Mmmm, no one seems to like the media player on the K750.
Weird....

But isn't that -maybe- people have waaaay too many expectations?

I actually like it.
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darky
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Posted: 2005-08-19 03:20
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it does the job, although being able to read m3u (i.e. create playlists on pc) would be a nice feature
max_wedge
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Posted: 2005-08-19 06:36
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You may not like playlists, but all a playlist on the k750 is, is just a way of putting songs into a list. If you create folders within your MP3 folder when browsing the memory stick via explorer, you can then create playlists on the K750 from any of those folders you like.

So you can create "playlists" which are essentially just a shortcut to a folder in the MP3 folder....

Easy..
quaeler
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Posted: 2005-08-19 09:31
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Quote:

On 2005-08-19 03:20:27, darky wrote:
it does the job...



i totally beg to differ. any shuffle of a playlist of songs A, B , C, D, E that results in me hearing, for example:
D, A, B, D, E, A, C

is _not_ doing the job (and was written either by high school students or a cd player engineer transported from the late 80s)
ctsamados
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Posted: 2005-08-19 09:41
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It loooks like a phone with MP3 capabilities is still not a replacement for a dedicated MP3 player.

I have a Zen Xtra and just use my phone for backup if I forget my proper MP3 player.
quaeler
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Posted: 2005-08-19 11:49
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ctsamados:
that's the extremely frustrating thing: there's really no reason (now that 1 gig and 2 gig sticks are available) that it can't be -- SE is just lazy or incompetent, or both. even the unreal player i used on my p900 was a decent mp3 player - and here we are 2 years later with a better platform, and SE still can't write what is, for all intents and purposes, a college side project of an mp3 player.

if they hadn't crippled and broken their j2me implementation of the player, maybe someone would at least be able to write a sufficient java version of it.
max_wedge
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Posted: 2005-08-19 18:21
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Would it not be possible now with the JSR-75 API of K750/W800, to implement a java player?

I agree though that it is slack of SE, especially with the W800 Walkman badged phone version, but even for the K750 you'd expect it to have atleast the functionality of a basic mp3 player.

It doesn't affect me too much personally, since I've never used the random feature. But I still agree it's slack. It's surely not that hard to implement a random play that doesn't repeat songs within one cycle!!

There is so much else about these phones to be happy with though, overall I'm pretty impressed. Every phone I've ever had has some kind of compromise that seems completely unnecessary!
quaeler
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Posted: 2005-08-19 20:03
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the current SE j2me implementation of Player is broken (when fetching it with a subclass of DataSource) and is crippled (when fetching it with a subclass of InputStream (a pause of many seconds between when the file is opened and the player actually starts sending sound)).

it's been reported to the SE engineers via the developer forums at SE, but i've no idea what effect that will have or when it will have it.

[ This Message was edited by: quaeler on 2005-08-19 19:04 ]
evinco
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Posted: 2005-08-20 05:06
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I know nothing about java programming at all, but from what you're saying quaeler, it IS possible (at least theoretically) to fix the J2ME implementation (i.e. add the ability to program a decent music player) with a firmware (i.e. software and not hardware) update?

If so, and if they fix it, I'd probably learn Java just to make myself a decent video player
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