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stedus
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The main thing that make me excited was not the phone
but the......................transparent buttons 
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RumrCollectr
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On 2013-05-20 04:45:26, itsjustJOH wrote:
On 2013-05-19 22:52:27, RumrCollectr wrote:
You can't combine WhiteMagic and Triluminos technology.
I don't see how it can't be combined. WhiteMagic uses a filter with RGBW sub pixels, while Triluminos tech uses QD with blue LED as backlight to produce a better white light. IGZO and WhiteMagic can't be combined, I think.
Whitemagic uses a white backlight, the extra white pixel is therefore just letting the white backlight through without a red green or blue filter. In Triluminos the backlight isn't white, it's blue, so you can't just let it through. |
itsjustJOH
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On 2013-05-20 07:17:22, RumrCollectr wrote:
Whitemagic uses a white backlight, the extra white pixel is therefore just letting the white backlight through without a red green or blue filter. In Triluminos the backlight isn't white, it's blue, so you can't just let it through.
Blue LED plus two QDs that absorb some light from the blue light and convert it to red and green. Add it all and you get a white backlight. Ordinary LED backlight uses a blue LED coated with phosphor to create white light, but also produces colors near white (wider band) that the filters may not be able to filter. |
roanmy
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Sort of wish we got the Xperia UL in the west as well. 
Currently NExus 4, but want Xperia ZR. |
RumrCollectr
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On 2013-05-20 07:36:12, itsjustJOH wrote:
On 2013-05-20 07:17:22, RumrCollectr wrote:
Whitemagic uses a white backlight, the extra white pixel is therefore just letting the white backlight through without a red green or blue filter. In Triluminos the backlight isn't white, it's blue, so you can't just let it through.
Blue LED plus two QDs that absorb some light from the blue light and convert it to red and green. Add it all and you get a white backlight. Ordinary LED backlight uses a blue LED coated with phosphor to create white light, but also produces colors near white (wider band) that the filters may not be able to filter.
There's no point to that. You might as well just use the red and green QDs that you already have in the R + G subpixels.
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xperia_sakth
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@RM , any idea abt display panel?? |
itsjustJOH
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On 2013-05-20 07:46:47, RumrCollectr wrote:
There's no point to that. You might as well just use the red and green QDs that you already have in the R + G subpixels.
Hell I don't know I'm not Sony. But what I've read, blue QDs are hard to manufacture. Could be pricey, that's why the easier to produce R and G QDs are used but as complementary to create a narrow band white backlight. |
RumrCollectr
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On 2013-05-20 07:56:43, itsjustJOH wrote:
On 2013-05-20 07:46:47, RumrCollectr wrote:
There's no point to that. You might as well just use the red and green QDs that you already have in the R + G subpixels.
Hell I don't know I'm not Sony. But what I've read, blue QDs are hard to manufacture. Could be pricey, that's why the easier to produce R and G QDs are used but as complementary to create a narrow band white backlight.
They are, unfortunately. If you look at the demo material for the Triluminos tech it's always about how amazing the colours are on reds and greens (I don't know how many damn strawberries I've seen on screens), they never talk about blues. That's because blues aren't as good, they don't use the QD tech, it's just a passthrough.
So triluminos:
Red QD: Takes in blue, uses it to create red.
Green QD: Takes in blue, uses it to create green.
Blue: Passes blue backlight.
Whitemagic:
Red: Takes in white, only passes red component through.
Green: Takes in white, only passes green component through.
Blue: Takes in white, only passes blue component through.
White: Passes white backlight.
Triluminos + Whitemagic:
Red QD: Takes in blue, uses it to create red.
Green QD: Takes in blue, uses it to create green.
Blue: Passes blue backlight.
White: ??? Doesn't make sense.
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jianlin
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On 2013-05-20 06:26:53, randomuser wrote:
Sony has a lot of S4 Pro stock, and for 2H they are moving to S800 for the high end. So no room for S600.
S800 -Togari, Honami, Ray 3, One Sony tablet, and a mystery phone below Honami.
one sony tablet in 2013? |
itsjustJOH
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@RumrCollectr
Non monsieur, it is still a white backlight. Let me illustrate it:
l=============
l=============
l======R--------
l======R--------
l======G******
l======G******
l - Blue LED
= - Blue Light
R - QD(blue to red)
G - QD(blue to green)
--- - Red light
*** - Green light
There is a blue main LED backlight. R and G QDs convert the blue light to red and green light. Now, we have equal amount of blue, red and green light being emitted. But since the space between the three are too small, they combine to make white light. Now we have a white backlight that would now pass through the color filter.
Points for creativity?
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nightwing369
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EXCITED FOR THE HONAMI ! 
Check this for the latest on the upcoming Sony phones for 2013: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AreyfktYnDHtdHN0bVFPdUFJd0ZiNzZQcjMwV1I5M0E#gid=0 |
RumrCollectr
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On 2013-05-20 08:38:50, itsjustJOH wrote:
@RumrCollectr
Non monsieur, it is still a white backlight. Let me illustrate it:
l=============
l=============
l======R--------
l======R--------
l======G******
l======G******
l - Blue LED
= - Blue Light
R - QD(blue to red)
G - QD(blue to green)
--- - Red light
*** - Green light
There is a blue main LED backlight. R and G QDs convert the blue light to red and green light. Now, we have equal amount of blue, red and green light being emitted. But since the space between the three are too small, they combine to make white light. Now we have a white backlight that would now pass through the color filter.
Points for creativity?
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10/10 - that's got to be the most horrifying idea I've seen in a while. |
stedus
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On 2013-05-20 08:38:50, itsjustJOH wrote:
@RumrCollectr
Non monsieur, it is still a white backlight. Let me illustrate it:
l=============
l=============
l======R--------
l======R--------
l======G******
l======G******
l - Blue LED
= - Blue Light
R - QD(blue to red)
G - QD(blue to green)
--- - Red light
*** - Green light
There is a blue main LED backlight. R and G QDs convert the blue light to red and green light. Now, we have equal amount of blue, red and green light being emitted. But since the space between the three are too small, they combine to make white light. Now we have a white backlight that would now pass through the color filter.
Points for creativity?
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2013-05-20 07:39 ]
instead of Blue backlight, we will have White backlight??
So with the Triluminos tech + White magic, we will have this arrangement?
l=============
l=============
l======R--------
l======R--------
l======G******
l======G******
l======B++++++
l======B++++++
l - White LED
= - White Light
R - QD(White to Red)
G - QD(White to Green)
B - QD(White to Blue)
--- - Red light
*** - Green light
+++ - Blue light
Brilliant Idea itsjust 
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itsjustJOH
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@stedus Yeah, I guess. If that's possible.
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take5
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Any hints of the dimensions of Honami?
I hope for a ZL-like bezel (and size), the Z is quite a chunky piece of mobile...  |
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