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SONY Xperia Rumors 2013 Edition |
jianlin
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On 2013-05-02 12:04:28, maloqs wrote:
random some site mentioned about C190X,is it C190X is a 5" entry level ODM device?
Also some site shown the latest rumour of optimus g2 uses 2.0ghz unknown processor....
[ This Message was edited by: maloqs on 2013-05-02 11:07 ]
maybe g2 use own lg Odin biglittle processor... 
http://thedroidguy.com/2013/0[....]ntutu-leak-snapdragon-800-cpu/
Other rumored specs besides the Snapdragon 800 chip include a Full HD, 1920 x 1080 pixels resolution display (likely at least 5.5 inches in size), 2 GB of RAM, a 13 MP rear-facing camera and a whopping battery of at least 3,200 mAh.
One Sony at least 3200 mah too please
WTF s800 score so slow? early firmware i think... 
http://blog.gsmarena.com/benc[....]tablet-and-aio-toshiba-tablet/
tegra 4 also scored 28k in antutu only...on par with exynos 5 octa....
Tegra 4 reference tablets use SanDisk iNAND Extreme which scored 36k....
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unknownC151A
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@Random
Won't adding a larger sensor and plasma LED flash thicken the phone? At least the Xperia S's width? |
Ambivalent_
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On 2013-05-02 12:11:21, jianlin wrote:
On 2013-05-02 12:04:28, maloqs wrote:
random some site mentioned about C190X,is it C190X is a 5" entry level ODM device?
Also some site shown the latest rumour of optimus g2 uses 2.0ghz unknown processor....
[ This Message was edited by: maloqs on 2013-05-02 11:07 ]
maybe g2 use own lg Odin biglittle processor...
http://thedroidguy.com/2013/0[....]ntutu-leak-snapdragon-800-cpu/
Other rumored specs besides the Snapdragon 800 chip include a Full HD, 1920 x 1080 pixels resolution display (likely at least 5.5 inches in size), 2 GB of RAM, a 13 MP rear-facing camera and a whopping battery of at least 3,200 mAh.
One Sony at least 3200 mah too please
WTF s800 score so slow? early firmware i think...
http://blog.gsmarena.com/benc[....]tablet-and-aio-toshiba-tablet/
tegra 4 also scored 28k in antutu only...on par with exynos 5 octa....
Tegra 4 reference tablets use SanDisk iNAND Extreme which scored 36k....
[ This Message was edited by: jianlin on 2013-05-02 11:20 ]
So couple of things;
Either the benchmark results are fake (which is what the linked article suggested) or as you mentioned, it's about underdeveloped software. It's downright impossible for S800 to score less than S600 even with S800 clocked higher than S600!
So, if these are real scores (with early firmware) this may be a good thing. Why? Because it pretty much confirms clocks higher than previously rumored 1.7 Ghz.
Also, with such a beast of a battery, why would you need to down cloack S800 on Honami? Is heat really that big of an issue?
[ This Message was edited by: Ambivalent_ on 2013-05-02 12:10 ] |
Ambivalent_
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On 2013-05-02 14:15:13, aurelius wrote:
Now that's more like it. |
Ambivalent_
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On 2013-05-02 14:23:31, aurelius wrote:
Also remember that Sony is master on optimizing..their S4 Pro stats in certain tests are far better than anyting else on the market.
And, stop looking at benchmarks!! It's the package that sells...look at Galaxy S3...it was the most complete package available....
[ This Message was edited by: aurelius on 2013-05-02 13:28 ]
Can you confirm that benchmark picture you posted is indeed Honami?
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jianlin
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Can you confirm that benchmark picture you posted is indeed Honami?
[ This Message was edited by: Ambivalent_ on 2013-05-02 13:34 ]
nope...it is from msm8974 reference tablet.. |
kurtdean
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From zomg
That might not happen, SMC just changed a bunch of their security protocols with regard to prototype loaning and letting beta units out of the main Tokyo/Lund offices.
Indeed. I would be surprised if even a third of that list made it into the final device.
It's not going to be $1000, it will replace ZL at the same price point, no higher than that. The phablet will be more expensive and go into new pricing territory though, possibly $799 offline and $299 on a two year deal with AT&T.
Very, very unlikely that Sony are manufacturing it (impossible I think) because they don't have any mobile display assets left, they just handed over the last of them to JDI on April 1st 2013 as part of the deal with the Japanese government. Also if they needed to make the screens in house for TriLuminous then the 55/65" TVs would be inhouse, but they aren't the panels are constructed by AUO, again because Sony don't have any large screen LCD panel construction assets, just sold them (at a huge loss) to Samsung. The only panels Sony produce inhouse is OLED from 7" to 30" and those are limited to around 10k per month because of the expense and lack of scalability of the process. But they do good business on the professional side with those. The 25" TriMaster EL OLED has already sold through its first production run despite being over $20k. I had heard that they made a breakthrough recently with the scaling of the OLED pilot line but nothing since then, but again, that could just be related to the production of a 30" OLED monitor on the same process which was limited to 25" previously.
I would highly doubt Qualcomm are working with Sony on a special architecture/processor. It's not how they operate. Unless Sony dumped a truckload of cash (which they don't have) at Qualcomm's San Diego office it seems highly unlikely that they would make an exclusive chip for a smaller player and deny it to the market leader. Doesn't make a lick of sense.
Sony are going for a metal and glass build for the phablet and H2 flagship (I refuse to use that idiotic "One Sony" fanboy name, it's just ridiculous), a step up from the Xperia Z which used plastic and glass. Carbon fibre is too brittle to be in phones if one were to drop a carbon fibre phone it could smash into a million pieces.
"Ray 3" hasn't been delayed and it is a Japan only device like its predecessor (Xperia SX) you are talking about a different phone which is due in H1 2014. "Ray 3" is supposedly out this year in Japan with decidedly mid-range specs but a very, very small footprint, smaller than iPhone 5.
I think this misconception comes from people seeing the UK/EU pricing and then doing a straight conversion to USD without accounting for the tax differences because that's the third time I have seen it mentioned, and there is just no way Sony release the world's most expensive phone. They have been trying to shake that "expensive" reputation for the better part of 5 years and releasing a phone over $300 more than the competitor (GS4) is just not going to happen. $759 at Sony's own outlets, and $599 at discount/online retailers. That's the other big deal, Sony are in talks with big box retailers in the US to carry the phone unlocked and off contract.
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What that says to me, is that the Honami will have a Sharp IGZO display. I'm not complaining because its a bloody excellent display. 2000:1 contrast, and exceptional viewing angles. ZOMGWTFBBQ didn't mention the camera sensor, so I assume that the rumours of the 1/1.6 sensor @ 8-12MPx is reasonably accurate.
Price makes sense. Nobody would pay 1000$ for a phone. Not even Apple have the brand power to support such outrageous pricing. I had never heard of any Rumours about Sony trying to get Qualcomm to design them a custom SoC, so I'm unsurprised that its false.
"Ray3" being Japan-only for this year, is unsurprising. It makes sense given the SX was also Japan Exclusive. The different device for H1 2014, had better be a small, but high-end device (with specs that are equal to the flagship's). If Sony can supply ultra-high-end specs at 3 different sizes, they will be putting themselves in a strong position next year. |
kurtdean
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On 2013-05-02 17:48:18, -XYZ wrote:
What that says to me, is that the Honami will have a Sharp IGZO display. I'm not complaining because its a bloody excellent display. 2000:1 contrast, and exceptional viewing angles. ZOMGWTFBBQ didn't mention the camera sensor, so I assume that the rumours of the 1/1.6 sensor @ 8-12MPx is reasonably accurate.
Price makes sense. Nobody would pay 1000$ for a phone. Not even Apple have the brand power to support such outrageous pricing. I had never heard of any Rumours about Sony trying to get Qualcomm to design them a custom SoC, so I'm unsurprised that its false.
"Ray3" being Japan-only for this year, is unsurprising. It makes sense given the SX was also Japan Exclusive. The different device for H1 2014, had better be a small, but high-end device (with specs that are equal to the flagship's). If Sony can supply ultra-high-end specs at 3 different sizes, they will be putting themselves in a strong position next year.
ZOMGWTFBBQ lol!!!! |
AbhiD999
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Zomg... Is getting seriously stupid day by day!!!
No doubt at that |
nightwing369
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Sony stop with this stupid business of Japan only phones! All their devices should be made available to all countries! 
Check this for the latest on the upcoming Sony phones for 2013: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AreyfktYnDHtdHN0bVFPdUFJd0ZiNzZQcjMwV1I5M0E#gid=0 |
kewsvnet
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On 2013-05-02 07:56:12, randomuser wrote:
Still, keep your hopes low about the battery. Maybe Sony will go with 3000 in the end. But since the body itself is much bigger this time than the Z, it shouldn't be a problem to go with bigger capacity in the final version.
hmm...do we know much about what sort of dimensions Honami will have? Is it bigger thickness wise or in other ways? I find Z to be quite long i was hoping for length to be closer to ZL |
SEXperiaPro
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On 2013-05-02 14:23:31, aurelius wrote:
Also remember that Sony is master on optimizing..their S4 Pro stats in certain tests are far better than anyting else on the market.
And, stop looking at benchmarks!! It's the package that sells...look at Galaxy S3...it was the most complete package available....
[ This Message was edited by: aurelius on 2013-05-02 13:28 ]
Real talk, these benchmark fiends are funny to me.
It's not going to be $1000, it will replace ZL at the same price point, no higher than that. The phablet will be more expensive and go into new pricing territory though, possibly $799 offline and $299 on a two year deal with AT&T.
Didnt Spectre51 say AT&T aint getting no Sony phones this year. |
king-james
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kewsvnet: It will be definately thicker than Z and ZL, no question.
like.no.other |
motvikt
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On 2013-05-02 18:26:48, AbhiD999 wrote:
Zomg... Is getting seriously stupid day by day!!!
No doubt at that
Care to explain your reasoning? |
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