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shaliron
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Posted: 2007-04-13 07:48
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Well think of it clearly. Can SE actually beat Nokia in the high-end spec race? Probably not.

If SE tries to combat Nokia with phones like a 5MP smartphone, with GPS, optical zoom, etc. it'll just end up wasting money, gaining a small market share in a very small market.

And even Nokia can't isn't putting everything into one phone. Look at the N95:
- K800 has better camera, even at 2MP less. (look at MR or Mobileburn)
- series and N91 have better music playback quality than N95.
- GPS lacks touchscreen.

And it all adds up to a phone with horrible life. Less than a day - pathetic.

UPDATE:
Some of this is from Mobile-review, but I think some is a little wrong.

  • Laura appears to be cancelled.
  • Lizzy may be cancelled.
  • The Z750 is not the Z800 successor. It's an in between - the real one will have even more (which should be the 5MP clam).
  • Elena and Sofia may have no HSDPA.
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mrdoubleb
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Posted: 2007-04-13 09:51
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Ok, so no Sofia announcement this weekend either (they'll announce a smartphone). But than again, I'm not surprised. With all those fake dates during the past months from people posing as insiders, I didn't expect anything else.

My only fear is that something must have gone very bad at SE with Sofia. Yes, nothing about it has been official I know, but supposed features (optical zoom, HSDPA) keep on disappearing, the launch date is constantly being pushed back (again, not officially as there never was an official date) and Nokia is left alone to gain market share at the top-end camera phone market.

I just don't think its plausible that an aspiring market leader would intentionally let it's biggest competitor rule a segment without competition for 6 months+. Could it be that they have some serious issues with Sofia and/or the 5mp camera?
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Posted: 2007-04-13 10:52
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some subtle facelift to the UI on w580i

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Posted: 2007-04-13 11:00
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Yes, nothing about it has been official I know, but supposed features (optical zoom, HSDPA) keep on disappearing, the launch date is constantly being pushed back (again, not officially as there never was an official date)


This is just the result of SE fanatics creating unrealistic hype about it. Even one prototype pic sparks a ridiculous amount of unlikely features which people think are being added. Although, its bound to happen here at esato!

It is a worry that SE have left its k800 successor so late, although that could be because everything this year has been sealed tight, and that in mind, it is only mid april and SE are not following the same strategy as previous years so expect the unexpected. What i would like to personally think is the delay is due to observations of the n95 camera abilities and its disadvantages therefore improvements are being made. We havent seen the n73 successor yet either, so its in SEs best interest to get Sofias camera abilities to a standard above both nokia n95 and n73s successor.
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Posted: 2007-04-13 11:16
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xumdeo, from where did you get that? Any more pics of the UI?
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Posted: 2007-04-13 12:00
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no commercial secret
just a press preview at SE's Hong Kong office
http://www.hksincere.com/article.php?artID=927
http://hk.phonedaily.com/news/?news_id=4872
London Andy
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Posted: 2007-04-13 12:45
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There are quite a lot of new buzz going on for the moment.
Both the P1000 is on its way topic and the Meeting with Sony Ericsson topic are leaking quite interesting info and pictures, seams to e coming directly from the den of the beast

This always seams to be happening just before a announcement.

Could it be that we soon will hear from SE?




[ This Message was edited by: London Andy on 2007-04-13 11:50 ]
ares
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Posted: 2007-04-14 01:06
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John Morris from What Mobile just refered to a huge announcement of phones and accessories in 7 or 8th May, in the my-symbian forum
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roogenial
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Posted: 2007-04-14 01:25
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Let's hope this be a real date...

[ This Message was edited by: roogenial on 2007-04-14 00:26 ]
shaliron
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Posted: 2007-04-14 04:39
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On 2007-04-13 11:00:09, soane28 wrote:

Yes, nothing about it has been official I know, but supposed features (optical zoom, HSDPA) keep on disappearing, the launch date is constantly being pushed back (again, not officially as there never was an official date)


This is just the result of SE fanatics creating unrealistic hype about it. Even one prototype pic sparks a ridiculous amount of unlikely features which people think are being added. Although, its bound to happen here at esato!


Agree completely! Optical zoom is purely made up; I don't know why people bother making up specs and confusing it with the real rumours.

UPDATE:

  • Elena is part of the P series.
  • P700 - UIQ smartphone. Cheaper P series. Could be Elena.
  • A new UIQ system is almost complete. Known as R6 or 9.3
  • A possible P990 OS update.


[ This Message was edited by: shaliron on 2007-04-14 04:19 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-14 08:07
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very bad that the w810 succe. was a false information :S
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Posted: 2007-04-14 14:39
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What hapened with Sophia finally?
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Posted: 2007-04-14 14:52
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On 2007-04-14 14:39:40, roogenial wrote:
What hapened with Sophia finally?


According to the rumors so far, it will be as big as k800 (maybe bigger) it wont have HSDPA nor WiFi. It will have 5mpix camera and maybe QVGA recording. And it won't be out till September/October...

I'm definitly not waiting for sofia, I will buy p700 (elena) or N95...



[ This Message was edited by: KArkhon on 2007-04-14 13:54 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-14 15:07
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Sofia (Arvidsson)
The K800 successor and could be named K850. 5 megapixel camera with xenon flash and QVGA recording. Not entirely like the N95 in terms of technology, but more mass market. Same size as the K610 with a metal based body and metallic keys (thicker than that of the Ai/Na/Li). 2.2 inch scratch resistant screen. EDGE and UTMS. Will be released in September/October. Will not have optical zoom. May be 5MP Cyber-shot. Mechanical lens cover (similar to Sony T33). May have Walkman player v3.0

and it will have HSDPA 3.6mbit acording to a guy said this in this forum i think
M.H at M-R only said his opinion and he dosen't know anything about it having HSDPA or not
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Posted: 2007-04-14 15:19
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On 2007-04-14 15:07:06, cristiano wrote:

M.H at M-R only said his opinion and he dosen't know anything about it having HSDPA or not

Yeah, that`s true. I only made a list of my predictions.
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