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aksd
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Posted: 2008-06-04 14:26
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Nope, MSM7201a for the x1a and the MSM7200A for the X1.
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Posted: 2008-06-04 14:33
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So can anyone say which one will have better multimedia capability (music and video playback) ?
That will be the last factor after which I will choose between the X1 and the Touch Pro.
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Posted: 2008-06-04 14:35
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On 2008-06-04 14:33:22, Yakkaimono wrote:
So can anyone say which one will have better multimedia capability (music and video playback) ?
That will be the last factor after which I will choose between the X1 and the Touch Pro.


I'm guessing the X1i.
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Posted: 2008-06-04 14:42
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On 2008-06-04 14:26:05, aksd wrote:
Nope, MSM7201a for the x1a and the MSM7200A for the X1.



What processor is the Diamond Pro/Raphael? 7201a?
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Posted: 2008-06-04 14:51
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It uses the MSM7201A.
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Posted: 2008-06-04 14:53
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The X1i has the best video playback, not the best in the market though, but the best WM phone multimedia wise. But the Video out on the Diamond Pro gives it a + if you use the feature.

I find it rather strange that the Diamond Pro and and Diamond use the inferior of the two processors, but maybe they've done it to save on costs.

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Posted: 2008-06-04 15:03
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Well, I just listened to the new podcast from mobiel-review, from Eldar and it sure doesnt sound too good for SE at the moment.
There is no way that X1 will be released this summer. He said probably late november the earliest or december....
Current panels are ridden with bugs. He updated his handset and said that it is a little bit more usable now.
Raphael on the other side is almost ready and will ship in the end of this summer. At least 3 months in advance to X1.
I dont know what to think about SE these days. It seems that they cant get nothing right. If X1 would be delayed until next year then they should consider to drop the device IMO. I dont know who would wait for the phone when you can get other comparable (probably even better by that time) devices 100-200$ cheaper?
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Posted: 2008-06-04 15:20
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On 2008-06-04 14:53:18, aksd wrote:
The X1i has the best video playback, not the best in the market though, but the best WM phone multimedia wise. But the Video out on the Diamond Pro gives it a + if you use the feature.

I find it rather strange that the Diamond Pro and and Diamond use the inferior of the two processors, but maybe they've done it to save on costs.



Are the processors that different? Like noticeably to the average user? If you had an X1i and an X1a, would it be obvious?
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Posted: 2008-06-04 15:50
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On 2008-06-04 15:03:14, BIG-Stan wrote:
Well, I just listened to the new podcast from mobiel-review, from Eldar and it sure doesnt sound too good for SE at the moment.
There is no way that X1 will be released this summer. He said probably late november the earliest or december....
Current panels are ridden with bugs. He updated his handset and said that it is a little bit more usable now.
Raphael on the other side is almost ready and will ship in the end of this summer. At least 3 months in advance to X1.
I dont know what to think about SE these days. It seems that they cant get nothing right. If X1 would be delayed until next year then they should consider to drop the device IMO. I dont know who would wait for the phone when you can get other comparable (probably even better by that time) devices 100-200$ cheaper?


Why are there never any links to all of the Eldar BS???
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Posted: 2008-06-04 15:50
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i remarked on this earlier concerning the delay of the X1, mark my words
I love the X1 to bits but when it is inevitably released it be a midranged fone, Atleast they tried you cant blamed them for that, its more to do with the qualcomm msm7201 cpu optimisations, more than anything, they may release yes, (quite late) but I can guarantee you, in two months or earlier
The hungry wolves ( Snapdragons, U500, APX2500, Omap 3) will be grinning mischieviously, I keep coming to issue that the graphic part of this CPU is a pain to program and debug, or even an errata in the core,
who is Programming the X1 btw HTC or S.E. they should have all the documentation datasheets for the cpu, is there a Optimiser problem when it is compiled from source? who knows, a failure to understand the mechanism required for smooth quick graphical transitions, OpenGL ES 1.1
is this supported in windows 6, (I dont think it is ) but D3D
quick solution for S.E is Install Android and render it with OPENGL
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Posted: 2008-06-04 16:15
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@whybe
Dude, you just need to hit up the russian section of the site and its a podcast. In case you want to listen to it in russian
http://www.mobile-review.com/podcasts/2008/may/82/mr082-1.mp3
And why is that bs?because you dont like the news? Thats just childish...
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Posted: 2008-06-04 16:33
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Are the processors that different? Like noticeably to the average user? If you had an X1i and an X1a, would it be obvious?



Can you tell the difference between video recording at QVGA and 24fps and VGA at 30 fps also the X1a does'nt support H.264 while the X1i supports H.264 VGA at 15fps. Its all upto you if you require these multimedia capabilities or not.
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Posted: 2008-06-04 16:47
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Guys,
can you clear something up for me?
I see the X1 as listed with aGPS on every website but when reading the latest white paper, there's no mention of the GPS function (cf. x1_wp_r3a.pdf).
What gives???
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Posted: 2008-06-04 16:52
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Dude what did you look up to. Just look at page 4 of the 3rd version of the white paper or type in the search box of you adobe reader "gps" and it should direct you to it.
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Posted: 2008-06-04 17:00
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@WhyBe

How come Eldar who is very well known and respected for his views and who gets proto's and information from manufacturers and actually has an X1 can be talking BS.

Compared to people like you that just have wishful thinking and no real information or facts, how does that work then?

@Muhammad Oli

To be honest H.264 @15fps is hardly worth it as you can't really find much use for it. But H.264 offers better quality over H.263 or 3gp. So if you intend watching just short clips it won't make much difference but a TV show or Film the quality won't be great or as good as if it was in H.264 @25fps.

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