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AbuBasim
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Anyone seen any sample shots from the E71 camera yet? I'm curious to see how it fares against the utterly useless camera in the old E61i.
I'm hoping that this could be a replacement for my old P990i. What the E61i was missing was a camera of at least average quality and A2DP for wireless stereo.
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On 2008-06-17 20:16:52, AbuBasim wrote:
Anyone seen any sample shots from the E71 camera yet? I'm curious to see how it fares against the utterly useless camera in the old E61i.
I'm hoping that this could be a replacement for my old P990i. What the E61i was missing was a camera of at least average quality and A2DP for wireless stereo.
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2008-06-17 19:24 ]
Sample pics are few if any thus far - and they'll be with preproduction units with non finalized firmware but very close.
check on AAS review to find some. Also A2DP is there and a large stack of BT profiles supported as well. Turn it over to reject calls  on the E66.
No motion sensor on the E71.
Jumping to the E-Series thread here.
Oh yeah and the podcast
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On 2008-06-17 21:51:13, Prom1 wrote:
Sample pics are few if any thus far - and they'll be with preproduction units with non finalized firmware but very close.
check on AAS review to find some.
Thanks. Just found their review and the camera, although better than E61i's, seems to be below average. As Steve Litchfield comments, disappointing that Nokia didn't reuse the camera from the E90.
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On 2008-06-17 21:59:34, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2008-06-17 21:51:13, Prom1 wrote:
Sample pics are few if any thus far - and they'll be with preproduction units with non finalized firmware but very close.
check on AAS review to find some.
Thanks. Just found their review and the camera, although better than E61i's, seems to be below average. As Steve Litchfield comments, disappointing that Nokia didn't reuse the camera from the E90.
True but Steve can be a stickler for "more = more" at times. This E66 & E71 are MARVEL's at runway model skinnyness! I'm surprised WiFi & GPS is both in each! Plus the E90 is so damn THICK it's like a BBW or plus 19 size woman compared to a runway model. No hardware video acceleration is most likely the cause due to the new Freescale cpu, but higher clock cycles.
Regarding the camera from [quote=Steve Litchfield from All About Symbian] on 8:26 BST, June 17th 2008 wrote:
"I was SO looking forward to this phone since with all those features it would have been a near perfect device for blogging my upcoming half year trip around the world. But then I clicked on the camera samples and .... WTF?! Hey Nokia, 2001 called, they want their crappycam back."
Bear in mind that several of those samples were deliberately taken in low light, to see how the E71 would cope. Watch for another article on this, with more examples and comments, shortly.[/quote]
found here: http://www.allaboutsymbian.co[....]em/7486_Nokia_E71-the_Q__A.php
Also video from designers:
http://share.ovi.com/media/co[....]ons.public/conversations.10098
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I was looking forward to this phone. Its not bad but two things rumored were 3.5mm jack and VGA 30 fps capture, neither of which are there. The VGA capture seems to be on purpose, though gsm arena seems to think it has it and all about symbian is sure it doesn't. |
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On 2008-06-17 23:44:51, londonlad123 wrote:
I was looking forward to this phone. Its not bad but two things rumored were 3.5mm jack and VGA 30 fps capture, neither of which are there. The VGA capture seems to be on purpose, though gsm arena seems to think it has it and all about symbian is sure it doesn't.
The spec sheet briefly mentions it - but its still preliminary. I'm sure its capable of doing it (spec states 12fps); but I doubt Nokia will get it there. 3.5mm Jack being rumored? More like hoped when the device is so Slim. You may consider the RIM BB Bold. Me I'm going for the E71.
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The Nokia specs page list it as VGA 22fps.
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@prom
All about symbian seem to be sure it qvga 15 fps and even say don't believe nokia's spec sheet. About the 3.5mm I guess it was hope more than rumor but what's 1 more mm. Could have put it in. Anyway, at least the jack is recessed rather than a big fastport jack sticking out on the side. |
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@Prom1
Hey you leave the insults about what is quite simply the most powerful and advanced Symbian smart phone out.
As to it's huge size it is only slightly longer and wider than a TyTN 2 and is thiner so considering you get a glorious 4" screen and 57 key QWERTY the price you have to pay is a little size and weight. Not forgetting for a smart phone a great if not class leading 3.2 megapixel camera and 30fps VGA video recording all powered by a 1500aMh Li-polymer battery.
@all,
As much as i loved my E61 the fact the E71 has a smaller screen rules it out for me. My next device may well be the BB Thunder and if that doesn't work out then I'm quite happy to wait for the E90 replacement late 2009. As so far nothing announced or launched even comes close to my E90.
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Looks nice on white, better than black I think.
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On 2008-06-19 21:45:30, Dogmann wrote:
@Prom1
Hey you leave the insults about what is quite simply the most powerful and advanced Symbian smart phone out.
As to it's huge size it is only slightly longer and wider than a TyTN 2 and is thiner so considering you get a glorious 4" screen and 57 key QWERTY the price you have to pay is a little size and weight. Not forgetting for a smart phone a great if not class leading 3.2 megapixel camera and 30fps VGA video recording all powered by a 1500aMh Li-polymer battery.
@all,
As much as i loved my E61 the fact the E71 has a smaller screen rules it out for me. My next device may well be the BB Thunder and if that doesn't work out then I'm quite happy to wait for the E90 replacement late 2009. As so far nothing announced or launched even comes close to my E90.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-06-19 20:45 ]
Sorry, Marc. I wasn't dissing the Symbian just the size of the E90 ... but you're right it IS the most powerful E-Series and it stands up VERY well to the N95 ... I'd say its better. I'll bet you and everyone else cannot WAIT till its replacement. Imagine same specs, 2000Mah battery or close, along with OLED outter screen, Liquid-Lens for the camera (same specs just more power efficient = bonus), and imagine it ALL in a slimmer case?!
Maybe even with Magnesium as the metal of choice (light, dissapates heat better than aluminum, and stronger). Now how about having a video conferencing camera inside the open flip as well .
For me I love the E71. For business' its a good move. Now if only Nokia's IntelliSync devision updates the FULL suite (client incl) for Novel & IBM Notes Domino server as well  Now we'll have a good challenger to RIM on ALL platforms. well at least an inkling.
EDIT: From pg 88 from the Nokia_E71 User Guide.
[quote=Nokia E-Series]Video settings
To change the video mode settings, select Options >
Settings and from the following:
• Video quality — Set the quality of the video clip.
Select Sharing, if you want to send the video clip
using a multimedia message. The clip is recorded
with OCIF resolution, in 3GPP format, and the size is
limited to 300 kB (approximately 20 seconds). You
may not be able to send video clips saved in the
MPEG-4 file format in a multimedia message.
• Audio recording — Select Mute if you do not want
to record sound.
• Show captured video — View the first frame of
the recorded video clip after the recording stops. To
view the entire video clip , select Play from the
toolbar.
• Default video name — Define the default name for
recorded video clips.
• Memory in use — Select where you want to store
your video clips.
• Restore camera settings — Restore[/quote]
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i Dont think lack of 3.5mm jack is big let down, u can always use stereo bluetooth headset, it works very well with even my 2yr old P990, and i think vga
recording may be just not included, becuase to differentiate it from nseries, that would be hit on neries devices, like n78,n82 etc if it does multimedia
better such as camera n audio with 3.5mm jack
And not to forget the talk times of bold and e71
Bold
65k screen
and 5hrs of talk time
2mp
E71
16 mln screen
10.30 hrs of talk time, thats almost twice as bold
3mp
Fm radio
less thinner, less heavier
nokia has reduced sreen size because, there are too much people who complain about size and weight.nokia just has to do it for the most of people
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@tech ... careful of quoting talk times.
E71 talk times you've quoted (10.5hrs) is for GSM networks, not on 3G signals. Bold has some good specs as well, but when you eliminate it being used on the BES then some features are gone, not even options are listed.
I'm curious to see if Google's Calendar will allow for synchronization and what protocol it'll use. Is IntelliSync an open source protocol?! If so and they choose to implement that OR support it, not only will Andriod have free busy lookup, but so will the many E-Series! Not sure the BB Bold will/can integrate this way; they did use to license IntelliSync for the desktop client, maybe they still do.
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Hi Prom1
There is already a Video Camera on the inside of the internal screen for Video calling, not that i have ever used or ever will but it is there.
Here is what Michal Jerz said in his E90 review
" On the left side, above the Send/End buttons, there is a secondary low-res (QCIF) video camera for video calls only."
Rather than a Magnesium shell i would much prefer Titanium as just love that metal.
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About these phones... The specifications are OK, but I DONT like the design 
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