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Author P990i: Hardware rev. R6A >>> R12A
michael the mage
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Posted: 2007-07-11 02:56
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We have to further consider if the particular phones are BRANDED or Original when we look at this. [addsig]
myth_old
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Posted: 2007-07-12 21:58
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On 2007-07-11 01:34:07, rcxAsh wrote:
I guess this is another revision to add to your thread title, myth.71?


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myth_old
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Posted: 2007-07-12 23:57
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On 2007-07-11 01:19:50, makbil wrote:
I don't have any of the serious problems some users report, so does this mean earlier phones were better?


not necessarily..

my suspicion is based on my experience with K750, but it may be different for P990i, considering that it was already a limited device at launch

that's what I am trying to find out.



On 2007-07-11 02:56:46, michael the mage wrote:
We have to further consider if the particular phones are BRANDED or Original when we look at this.


definitely...

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mattiL
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Posted: 2007-07-13 12:11
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Hi

Mine is DPY 101 1472/28 R10A FI, SV. (2 months old)

Myth.71 1472/140 R10A
Michael the Mage 1472/47 R6A
Makbil 1472/43 R8A TR, RU

Strange numbering system...


//mattiL
makbil
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Posted: 2007-07-13 15:04
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Last week I was talking with a friend who also had a P990 earlier and was shopping for a new one. He told me that at all the P990s he looked at there were noticeable differences in the color of the screen and keyboard lights. I think this demonstrates that there are hw component differences between various versions, probably with non critical components.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD
ryolasta
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Posted: 2007-07-16 09:21
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On 2007-07-13 12:11:32, mattiL wrote:
Hi

Mine is DPY 101 1472/28 R10A FI, SV. (2 months old)

Myth.71 1472/140 R10A
Michael the Mage 1472/47 R6A
Makbil 1472/43 R8A TR, RU

Strange numbering system...


//mattiL


i forgot mine... but i'm sure it's DPY xxxxxxxxxx/145 R9A

by the way, the production code is year 07.. i forgot the week numbers, but i remember it's something middle of february.

in my country, there is a singapore version of P990i in the market. from the local forum, it is confirmed by several people, that the code DPY xxxxxxxxx/145 is WorldWide version. From the local forum i have found out that the singapore version is difficult to upgrade f/w with SEUS. I intentionally looks for WorldWide version, and i got lucky.

still waiting for the historical changes of this h/w rev.
makbil
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Posted: 2007-07-17 13:07
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Let's include the following information:

1472/43 R8A (TR, RU printed on box), CDA/1 GW 1
06W39 (under the battery)

With R3 & R4, I had a lot of problems including restarts on incoming calls. Since R5 the phone is really stable, with R6 I have much better WLAN and Opera and no restarts and very few kern-execs. I use SMP with level 3 reclaim which also helps with memory management.
I don't have any of the weird problems reported by others. I guess my phone was not built on friday

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ryolasta
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Posted: 2007-07-18 05:23
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1472/145 R9A CDA162007/2 GW2 07w06
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Posted: 2007-07-18 12:13
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I think it'll be worthwhile if everyone also mention their experience with their hw + fw versions so that we can establish some sort of pattern as it is quite known that everyone who owns a P990 has a different experience with one another. Any weird incidents that a majority of others don't experience (eg. your phone restarts after midnite, restarts when picking up a call etc)? I'm not having any of those weird problems, just the normal minor bugs and limited multitasking. The line on my box says:

DPY 101 1472/145 R7A EN

I'm on R9D23, WG2

It's kinda important to me because I'm getting another P990 since mine got immersed in a pool and I don't want to make a mistake of getting a faulty hardware version. I'm sure everyone's curious as well as to which rogue hardware is on the loose!
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Posted: 2007-07-19 12:28
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My P990 is R7A, and so far this seems to be the most stable revision. It does crash about once every couple of days, however, most often when connecting/disconnecting the charger, and during long periods of inactivity.

Anyone else noticed this?

I should also add that it's a debranded voda handset now running the latest firmware on WG1.

Hello everybody btw, I would have posted sooner, but it took a while to remember my username/password from 2 years ago!

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michael the mage
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Posted: 2007-07-19 16:42
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On 2007-07-13 15:04:12, makbil wrote:
Last week I was talking with a friend who also had a P990 earlier and was shopping for a new one. He told me that at all the P990s he looked at there were noticeable differences in the color of the screen and keyboard lights. I think this demonstrates that there are hw component differences between various versions, probably with non critical components.



Actaully this rather demonstrates that SE has NO quality control in their manufacturing plants!

I got here 4 p990's direct from SE in USA and every single one of them had a different screen display, in colors, brightness (yes even adjusted!), contrast and overall looks of pictures and through the viewfinder.

And I would say the screen is quite an important component, after all, we all look at it most of the time we use it!!!

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rcxAsh
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Posted: 2007-07-19 17:26
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I don't think that it's necessarily that they don't have quality control; it just might be that they switched suppliers. I remember a while back with one of the Palm Tungstens, there were different revisions which used different screens resulting in noticeably different maximum-brightnesses.

Also with Sony's Clie TG50, there were at least three different versions of this. One with a faster processor (if overclocked), one with a flashable ROM, and one with neither.

It seems that things often change in the manufacturing process...

Oh I also notice that some P990i's say "QuickShare" on them, whereas the later ones say "P990i" instead.
makbil
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Posted: 2007-07-20 10:52
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@rcxAsh, on the flip it says "P990i", if you use without the flip, the replacement cover says "Quick Share", so both are true.

I would think that there aren't a lot of companies producing the touch screens used on the P990, so the problem could be with the quality control of the screen producer. To be honest, the physical build quality of the P990 is far superior to any other competitive device out there. Having said that, the differences may be caused by other components that are used to control these parts and the finished product is probably classified as within acceptable limits. It just looks like our limits are a little tighter than SEs
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rcxAsh
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Posted: 2007-07-20 14:21
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makbil: Actually, on my P990i, both the flip and the replacement cover say "P990i" - I do not have "QuickShare" anywhere on my device...! (I'm using it without the flip). Not that it matters really though haha...
michael the mage
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Posted: 2007-07-21 00:03
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So that means that all those companies have NO quality control whatsoever!
It won't change as long as people accept those differences in the products they buy! What changes in anyones manufacturing process or in their board of directors or at their whatever... I don't care! I care that the products go through a working quality control process and are identical. Like I said, I have now about 7 more p990s in hand and none of them came close to the one I bought first! That is outragious and just not acceptable.

As for the Quickshare, mine says p990 on both elements too. I don't even think that they sold a real retail version with quickshare since they sold this right or something like that before the p990 was actually released.

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