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mario2004
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Posted: 2008-04-10 18:01
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Ok, now here is the big news. This device is all HTC + SE branding. Any comments? Htc is going to rule the WM market. Qtek and Eten are the big losers.
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Posted: 2008-04-10 18:32
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Wasn't this already proven not to be totally true?

The phone is SE designed but just manufactured by HTC. That's a huge difference from being all HTC + SE branded.

Who has the facts straight?
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Posted: 2008-04-10 18:52
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What exactly does make you think, SE designed this device ? ? ? Actually TyTN II looks more SE than this. The thing is, SE don't have a licence from Microsoft. I believe Nokia do not have either and went the Linux road. This is a HTC front and back (even the 3 odd MP cam is there plus wifi b/g module are all standard HTC). I find it very interesting how quickly SE fans 'adopt' it as a 'true' SE. Meanwhile the badge is the only 'true' SE design in there. And BTW, it took me a while to dig this one out I expect all the SE fans to jump on me with 'evidence' to the contrary, but what I know is true and it will remain that way, bashing or no bashing HTC Rule -
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Posted: 2008-04-10 19:14
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Mario a few of your points on why its a HTC are quite funny imo. How does WiFi b and g make it comletely a HTC? Does that mean all the new Nokias as well as the SE G900 are all made by HTC? Also my laptop, it has wifi b/g does that make it a HTC ? Also I had a K790 with a 3 odd Mpx cam, is that a HTC as well?

WE'll lets clarify a few points here shall we? Its true SE does not have Windows CE License as far as we know, nor do they have a license for the Qualcomm processor, that does not mean its not an SE. Now looking at the exterior design, it screams out Sony Ericsson and not HTC, I own a TyTn2 and that seriously does NOT look SE from any angle I look at it.

This is what SE have most probably done, they've given HTC the specs of the device they want created, HTC along with SE designers came up with the X1 outer design. HTC + MS + SE software engineers worked on the panel design, as SE here is the buyer and HTC the provider, the final product eventualy has to be approved by SE.

This is know as "outsourcing" all major companies do it, from automobile to laptops, you just dont hear about it much in the news as its usually kept away from the publics view as it would tarnish the brand image.

btw since you're such a big HTC fan, I think you'd enjoy reading about HTC's greatness on this website http://www.htcclassaction.org/

I'm sorry to disappoint you but we already know that the X1 is being manufactured by HTC. And frankly the news is not very hard to find either.

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Posted: 2008-04-10 19:43
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Huh bud, you are good with words (turning around) but the facts are on my site. You can make as many assumtion as you want, facts are going to stay. I only got word of it all this afternoon. Look at the date of my above post. It may take weeks/monts before you'll catch up. I am not going to get into meaningless word fights in here. I will just watch the storm going on, and if you and the others finally see the truth, I will post again and point out the above post of mine and remind you - I knew it all along months before the mob - HTC Rules
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Posted: 2008-04-10 20:08
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I dont mean to get into a word fight(argument ) with you, but I fail to see any new info in your posts, we know the phone is being made by HTC.

See what truth? I'm not obsessed by "brands" for me to see any truth about any brand. Why is it that everybody is so brand oriented rather than buying something for the best value for money. Who cares if the X1 was made by HTC and rebadged, i'd still think its a great phone if it was made by xyz comany and badged as something else.

I fail to understand what you know before us etc.. If you mean to say that HTC are going to release something better than the X1, we all know that as well, theres the Diamond, the Raphael and the Dream, the Raphael being the replacement of the TyTn2 and direct competitior to the X1, but knowing HTC they'll over price the Raphael at launch. If this is what you're hinting at, sorry again its old news .

If you have something to share thats actually new, I'm sure the esato members would love to hear it.
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Posted: 2008-04-10 22:16
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@aksd
I wouldn't bother with
Mario if I were you, he's
just being himself-
bashing SE at every
turn. We all know that
Htc is making x1 and
that's just about it.
Everything else says SE.


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Posted: 2008-04-11 11:54
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On 2008-04-10 19:43:51, mario2004 wrote:
Look at the date of my above post. It may take weeks/monts before you'll catch up. I am not going to get into meaningless word fights in here. I will just watch the storm going on, and if you and the others finally see the truth, I will post again and point out the above post of mine and remind you - I knew it all along months before the mob - HTC Rules



wow - thats amazing cutting edge news! Only 7 months after the rest of us...

http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=69711

whats your next piece of news going to be? That George Michael is gay?

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Posted: 2008-04-11 14:39
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Posted: 2008-04-12 04:14
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I don't understand why HTC would make a phone that is clearly superior to everything on the market...including their own? That would seem like a pretty stupid business move.

I'm more prone to believe HTC is just a manufacturer outsourced by SE like most stories state.
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Posted: 2008-04-12 05:37
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"Whybe"

HTC is going to release a new phone that has almost the same specification or even more which is HTC Tytn III and there was leaked information about it

Beside HTC is looking for another operating system which is Android and there was some leaked information about HTC Dream that is going to be released in May or June

so its not a stupid move to manufactor the device with SE
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Posted: 2008-04-12 13:32
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Care to reveal any of that info or specs on these HTC's (Raphael/Diamond)? Being that X1 is on the cutting edge (and priced accordingly), I highly doubt it will be leapfrogged so soon--matched, yes, but not surpassed. Otherwise, this would mean the birth of the >$1000 super premium smartphone market. Given a form factor and pricepoint, there's only so much current technology that can be squeezed into it, thus tradeoffs have to be made.

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Posted: 2008-04-12 22:58
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Hey

Does someone know if this phone has got a flash playa?
And does this phone support heavy 3d games?

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Posted: 2008-04-13 21:40
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when x1 will hit the market? indian market?
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Posted: 2008-04-15 11:54
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Do you have to have the device in landscape with keyboard extended to compose text, write email surf the web,
OR
Can you surf & write etc on the touch screen in candybar mode?

Has anybody here actually used this thing yet? If so what are your impressions?

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