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McKinley
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Posted: 2013-09-15 17:20
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Ok now when this lottery is confirmed, I have decided to cancel my order.
I will wait for Sony Store to get it here, so I can try it myself first.
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unknownC151A
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Posted: 2013-09-15 17:22
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On 2013-09-15 17:04:19, Jubei1 wrote:
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You didnt answer the question. Are you affiliated to Sony or not? We both know the answer to that wich is why you dodged it.

And i never said Sony is "cheating" with Triluminos, i said its a software enhancement. Did i say that was worse or better? Its fairly obvious you are utterly clueless about the subject wich is why it got you all agitated. QLED is simply a more efficient way of boosting color gamut instead of having to calibrate at the factory and then again prior to launch. But its not better or worse in terms of color gamut. It makes sense to use QLED for a TV. And i only used Apple as an example, dont get your panties in a bunch, how about the new Nexus 7 wich also uses software calibration, does this make me a Google fanboy now?

http://www.notebookcheck.net/[....]M2EB-G4-Ultrabook.97813.0.html

Vaio Pro 11 with Triluminos screen, they boosted color gamut even more simply by calibrating the screen.

If anything fans like you are the worst thing that could happen to Sony, all you want to do is fawn over them rather than point out flaws to help them improve future products. We saw how that ended up for the Nokia fanboys




So with have someone here, lacking credibility, questioning people. Lol. Good job. Here's a medal.

Nope. Not related to Sony. But have friends working there. Stated it clearly before.

Again, you don't know what Triluminos is. Previously, you claimed Triluminos is a software enhancement. Now, you claimed Triluminos is an indirect enhancement so no calibration required when the phones leave the factory.

How Triluminos works is simple. Shine blue lights on red and green pixels to produce colours, conventional LCD screen will never able to produce. Does it sound software to you? Lol. Try harder.

I think there's no point sticking with delusional humans. If you think triluminos is a software thing, take some China phone and try to calibrate the screen's colours beyond what it can display. I will give another medal.
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Shotokan81
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Posted: 2013-09-15 17:39
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@moogoo: mirukugyunyu is the roman alphabet retanscription of something like milk-cowmilk.
Milukugiuniu seems to me a variant of it, probably from Osaka (just joking nothing against Osaka )

Why don't you call him milk?

I hope this helps.

And can you tell us what moogoo stands for?

It won't hurt the thread.
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Posted: 2013-09-15 17:40
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@Jubei1

Screen color gamut coverage can never be boosted by software or calibration. Read what notebookcheck wrote:

Even uncalibrated, the display offered good gray levels, color accuracy and saturation. The DeltaE 2000 rarely goes above 5. After calibration, the measured values are much closer to the ideal and in some cases the DeltaE 2000 scores are well below 3 (the naked eye cannot distinguish the differences).

All the above have nothing to do with color gamut coverage. That is something only the panel hardware is responsible for. Vaio Pro 13 covers about 86% of sRGB and no calibration will boost that figure. Calibration can only adjust how colors are displayed on the screen, not the number of colors that the panel can display.

Monitors that cover 100% Adobe RGB or even 90%+ of Adobe RGB color gamut are extremely rare and cost a LOT. If calibration could boost color gamut coverage then photographers would simply calibrate cheap 70% Adobe RGB coverage monitors to cover 100% Adobe RGB gamut
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Posted: 2013-09-15 17:56
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On 2013-09-15 17:39:29, Shotokan81 wrote:
@moogoo: mirukugyunyu is the roman alphabet retanscription of something like milk-cowmilk.
Milukugiuniu seems to me a variant of it, probably from Osaka (just joking nothing against Osaka )

Why don't you call him milk?

I hope this helps.

And can you tell us what moogoo stands for?

It won't hurt the thread.



ha! i speak japanese, but i did not even realize it was a romanized japanese.. that makes it a lot easier. haha..

moogoo means mushroom in cantonese.. at least that's what i've been told. i don't speak it i took the name off a chinese food dish
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itsjustJOH
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Posted: 2013-09-15 18:12
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On 2013-09-15 17:40:36, randomuser wrote:
@Jubei1

Screen color gamut coverage can never be boosted by software or calibration. Read what notebookcheck wrote:

Even uncalibrated, the display offered good gray levels, color accuracy and saturation. The DeltaE 2000 rarely goes above 5. After calibration, the measured values are much closer to the ideal and in some cases the DeltaE 2000 scores are well below 3 (the naked eye cannot distinguish the differences).

All the above have nothing to do with color gamut coverage. That is something only the panel hardware is responsible for. Vaio Pro 13 covers about 86% of sRGB and no calibration will boost that figure. Calibration can only adjust how colors are displayed on the screen, not the number of colors that the panel can display.

Monitors that cover 100% Adobe RGB or even 90%+ of Adobe RGB color gamut are extremely rare and cost a LOT. If calibration could boost color gamut coverage then photographers would simply calibrate cheap 70% Adobe RGB coverage monitors to cover 100% Adobe RGB gamut
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-09-15 16:42 ]



As tested by Erica Griffin, the cute technology nerd who likes to film stuff, the color gamut is the same when BE2 is on XZU (before the X-Reality update) and when it is off @09:00. So no software magic to widen color gamut. The video also explains how Triluminos tech works.

Xperia Z Ultra: What is Triluminos?

Mind you guys, the color gamut on the XZU is not as wide as you might think from Erica's test. Wider than sRGB, but not much. But in a display much smaller than a TV, I think a small difference in color gamut can be more noticeable. That's just a quick theory, though, don't hate on me or call me a troll.
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Posted: 2013-09-15 18:38
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Guys come on,unknown c151a proved himself with his source are true and accurate,no need of explanation,and jubei1 stop being bully accept the fact that you are not sure or less fact on this tech and BTW be apologetic.and we are Sony fans not act like enemies and more over going through the pages makes waste and feels irritation.Let;s move on whatever if the screen is good its more than enough and Sony has nailed this time with good screen not like gimmicky colors in amoled screen

Note:Jubei1 prove yourself with you source and then comment and don't flow your comments and please don't make this thread dirty or else this threads might end up with ugly war
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Posted: 2013-09-15 18:43
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@itsjustOH - her videos are entertaining, but not always accurate. I don't really trust her. I mean, she took the XZU into a pitch dark closet on 100% brightness, then claimed the screen probably has a defect cause the blacks were not black? That doesn't show much common sense in my opinion..
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Posted: 2013-09-15 18:47
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On 2013-09-15 17:39:29, Shotokan81 wrote:
@moogoo: mirukugyunyu is the roman alphabet retanscription of something like milk-cowmilk.
Milukugiuniu seems to me a variant of it, probably from Osaka (just joking nothing against Osaka )

Why don't you call him milk?

I hope this helps.

And can you tell us what moogoo stands for?

It won't hurt the thread.



@Shotokan: Typhoon Man-Yi inbound Tokyo. Take care!

In other news, F-01F made it pass the FCC. No clues on the design.
itsjustJOH
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Posted: 2013-09-15 18:57
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@moogoo Yeah, that was a mistake she did. But she should know that LCD displays have that problem, especially when you tilt it on its corner. I don't know if she did that on purpose though, she likes the phone a lot. Still a cutie.
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Posted: 2013-09-15 20:08
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we've got milk, pokemon and mushroom (mario brothers?) on esato following sony. wonder who's next to join

is that sato from the japanese word or something else?
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DexterMoser
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Posted: 2013-09-15 20:09
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On 2013-09-15 10:53:02, aurelius wrote:
Speaker much better than Z. Huge difference. Might be second best on the market after HTC One. Alot louder. I have to say, I've got a non-final product with old fw. Also unfortunately I have to give it back already tomorrow since the owner have to go to Japan on tuesday.


That's great!
The only thing that stopped me from getting the original Z was its weak speaker.
Z1 seems to be the best for me


(And yeah I'm the only one who cares about the speaker on a smartphone )

Anyways thanks aurelius
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dexter is one of those guys who walks down the block with his phone on his shoulder like a boombox circa 1980s!

i care about smartphone speakers too.. but only that they are LOUD.. not so much on how great they sound. As long as I can understand speech for the ocasional video here and there. that's all that matters. I just need to hear my ringtones/alerts mostly
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Posted: 2013-09-15 22:34
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On 2013-09-15 20:51:04, moogoo wrote:
dexter is one of those guys who walks down the block with his phone on his shoulder like a boombox circa 1980s!

And that's what I'm listening to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmY8NStxBqc


I just care about loudness, too.
As long as it doesn't distort at max volume.
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Posted: 2013-09-16 02:26
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Sony Xperia Z1 vs HTC One Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOhf5aagbDY

Sony Xperia Z1 vs Galaxy S4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu5H4U4A8U8
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