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Qtek 9100 works great with BMW BT, bye bye SE P910i! |
RM666
Joined: Nov 05, 2005
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Sick of having the P910i and not work with my BMW 645 Bluetooth, and Sonyericsson ignoring that, not making it compatible. I started to try new Smartphones to replace the P910.
I had a long list of phones to try so I started with the Qtek 9100 and to my surprise it worked well and the phonebook transfered completely (around 200 contacts) in less than a minute.
I made a lot of tests with it trying to get it to fail and it never did. For now it works great. It is different than the P910 and I will take some time to get used to it, but only for the fact that it works with BMW BT is a reason for me to make the change.
I know that the P990 was already announced and that it will be launched in Q1 of 2006, but since the P800 (which I had) that Sonyericsson had complaints that it didn't work with the BMW BT and they didn't do nothing, then the P900(which I had also) was released and it was the same story as the P800. After that the P910(which I have/had) was the same. So I don't have any hope that the new P990 will ever work with the BMW BT.
I've sent once an email to Sonyericsson about the problem of the SE P800, P900, P910 not working with the BMW Bluetooth and they didn't even bother to reply!!!
When I connected the Qtek 9100 and it worked right away. My first thought was:
"Is it so difficult for Sonyericsson to make the P910 do this???"
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pikey100
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
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welcome to the SE forum.
I hope you have fun with your win-blows phone. It's a bit big and ugly isn't it? |
RM666
Joined: Nov 05, 2005
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Thanks for the welcomes Pikey100.
I am having some difficulties in learning to use the Qtek fast. Somethings are better some are worst but it is different and that makes it harder to learn.
As you can imagine, since my last 3 phones were the P800, P900 and P910. I am very used to the Symbian OS.
I was also very apprehensive in using a phone with Windows OS, for some reason I use Mac at work and at home.
But as I said on the first post, only for the fact that it works with the BMW BT makes me try harder to use this phone.
I don't find it ugly and it is a bit deeper than the P910 but not as much that I could take that as a disavantage.
What I 'm having more trouble is getting used to the lack of a normal phone keyboard.
I have tried the P910 without the flip and used the numbers on the screen, it is not so pratical as with real keys. With the Qtek it's the same problem, it only has the sliding keyboard but it's not so pratically as a normal phone keyboard to dial a number on the fly or even write a message.
[ This Message was edited by: RM666 on 2005-11-08 13:23 ] |
masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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On 2005-11-05 18:22:47, pikey100 wrote:
It's a bit big and ugly isn't it?
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hey! not everything that isn't SE is big 
here are the specs
qktek 9100 (kjam) 108 x 58 x 23.7
Sony Ericsson P910 115 x 58 x 26 mm
so the qtek is shorter, same width and a little less deep in fact
what do you get in the qtek over and above the P910? a decent size slide out keyboard which can be used very quickly. landscape mode EVERYTHING, great compatibility with outlook and office, bigger screen, fantastic one handed ability with dedicated buttons for IE, messaging, contacts and calendar together with soft keys to access menus (much like the P910 jog dial I guess), excellent today screen showing at a glance most of you need to know for that day when you do a quick check in the morning, wifi (820.11g), etc etc... and apparantly, BMW compatibility too!
as for ugly, I was a little put off when I first saw pics but in the flesh it is a nice little unit IMHO
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scormie
Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Posts: 376
From: Wessex UK
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I notice the Qtek is quad band too....
Does it support voice dialling? And Line 2? |
masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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voice dialling yes - it comes with a preinstalled application for that and voice can also be used to statr appilcations much like on microsoft voice command
line 2, I don't think so
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Sony Ericsson Indonesia
Joined: Oct 08, 2002
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From: Sony Ericsson Land
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why not a w800i  lol i dont use things like that because of the lack of the keyboard thats why i loved the O2 XDA2s
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carkitter
Joined: Apr 29, 2005
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From: Auckland, NZ
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Just when will  get it together regarding Bluetooth and BMW carkits? And even K750i and HCB-300/HCB-700? How many customers do they have to loose before they get the message?
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anonymuser
Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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On 2005-11-08 14:03:51, RM666 wrote:
What I 'm having more trouble is getting used to the lack of a normal phone keyboard.
I have tried the P910 without the flip and used the numbers on the screen, it is not so pratical as with real keys. With the Qtek it's the same problem, it only has the sliding keyboard but it's not so pratically as a normal phone keyboard to dial a number on the fly or even write a message.
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Doesn't sound like the Qtek is much of a solution to be honest, if you can't use it as a phone in the way that you'd like to. The P-series form factor and battery life still seems to be beating these Windows phones where it counts. |
dirkies
Joined: Mar 11, 2003
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it is disgusting SE doesn't listen to customers who have $$$ (and who buy top range Pxx models) NOT to support BMW/Lexus/Audi etc BT solutions for hi-end cars (calling without handsfree kit is forbidden in most EU countries now) and their eternal reply "it works fine with SE carkits" is totally bollocks. The OEM kits from car manufacturers is fully integrated, controlling from steering wheel, voice control, phonebook browsing on GPS screen, SMS on GPSscreen, cradle with car antenna, colour leds indicating roaming or not and no ugly cables or stuck-on modules... works great with SE T/K/W series and Nokias, Siemens & Motorolas...but NOT the SE P series!
Me too I wrote them about this nonsense and they said they never tested it on BMW so it 'may' not work... yeah sure. Their cheapo models work, their topmodels don't - go figure...
If a P990 still does NOT do it, I will abandon SE altogether. I know a lot of BMW owners who sold their SE P series because of this, doesn't this ring a bell at SE???
I used to have 2 mobiles, 1 for car & 1 to carry, but it was a mess, so I sold the car one and kept the P910, but it fails most of the time to work (sometimes - 30% - it works! but phonebook does not work - it gets transferred ok but then it gets masked since the P910 doesn't send its ID to the car, making the car believe the stored phonebook is not associated with the paired phone!). It is extremely frustrating to be honest...
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Graphite2003
Joined: Nov 12, 2003
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i think i would sell my BMW because it doesn't work with my P910.
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pikey100
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
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On 2005-11-11 17:03:35, Graphite2003 wrote:
i think i would sell my BMW because it doesn't work with my P910.
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Bloomin' German things! |
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On 2005-11-09 17:09:22, dirkies wrote:
it is disgusting SE doesn't listen to customers who have $$$ (and who buy top range Pxx models) NOT to support BMW/Lexus/Audi etc BT solutions for hi-end cars (calling without handsfree kit is forbidden in most EU countries now) and their eternal reply "it works fine with SE carkits" is totally bollocks. The OEM kits from car manufacturers is fully integrated, controlling from steering wheel, voice control, phonebook browsing on GPS screen, SMS on GPSscreen, cradle with car antenna, colour leds indicating roaming or not and no ugly cables or stuck-on modules... works great with SE T/K/W series and Nokias, Siemens & Motorolas...but NOT the SE P series!
Me too I wrote them about this nonsense and they said they never tested it on BMW so it 'may' not work... yeah sure. Their cheapo models work, their topmodels don't - go figure...
If a P990 still does NOT do it, I will abandon SE altogether. I know a lot of BMW owners who sold their SE P series because of this, doesn't this ring a bell at SE???
I used to have 2 mobiles, 1 for car & 1 to carry, but it was a mess, so I sold the car one and kept the P910, but it fails most of the time to work (sometimes - 30% - it works! but phonebook does not work - it gets transferred ok but then it gets masked since the P910 doesn't send its ID to the car, making the car believe the stored phonebook is not associated with the paired phone!). It is extremely frustrating to be honest...
[ This Message was edited by: dirkies on 2005-11-09 16:11 ]
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I understand where you're coming from dirkies, but on the flip side I had a mate here who got a BMW with one of their carkits installed as well. His didn't work well with it either, but the response he got was 2 fold, customer support gave the standard answer that they can only garauntee it with their carkits (fair enough I think) but then he called BMW and after alot of calling and going through to people was eventually told they hadn't really bothered to check handsets either.
So whose fault is it? for not testing other peoples carkits? Or the other manufacturer for not testing phones? |
dirkies
Joined: Mar 11, 2003
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I just got a reply from SE on P990i and BMW BT after sending them a lenghty mail explaining the issue and the absence of logic not willing/being able to support P series in BMW and other (expensive) carbrands while it's the public who drive such cars who need such phones... esp if the cheapo phones work fine and their flagship phones screw up royally, while still pretending they are 'fully' BT compliant...
answer:
they don't know if R&D tested it this time (while their previous excuse was always they didn't)! They have forwarded my request to R&D (yeah sure) but tell me to wait a while for a definitive answer, somewhat until the P990i is released (!!!no joke, the guy wrote that)
So I guess it's not gonna work again...  |
david1975
Joined: Apr 05, 2004
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bit off topic but perhaps we could start a new thread advising which cars actually do work with se bluetooth not many im betting |
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