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P800 or a PDA?? |
MrHat
Joined: Jun 09, 2002
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I'm very interested in the upcoming P800 but if it's gonna cost £550 new then getting a PDA with more memory and bluetooth (to connect to T68) is sounding like more of an option.
After all the 16Mb stick the P800 comes with is gonna fill up very quickly and the new DUO sticks will cost a small fortune when they come out.
I know the P800 has a camera as well but with no lense cover it could easily get broken.
So what do ppl think?
(And please don't just rush in saying "P800 cause it's cool!". I'd like some educated opinions). |
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jess_strawberry
Joined: Dec 29, 2001
Posts: 103
From: Singapore
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What you have said make sense and I agree with you. The memory stick that comes along is really quite limited but its free with the phone. I think in the market right now there's no pda that come with free memory add-on.
I have to admit that its big compare to t68 and thick. But its a smartphone that not only look nice but functions that are useful! I can read my webmail and even download attachments (in different format that the phone supported).....etc
I would love to own one for the fact that it has all the functions that I want. And especially after the nice experience I am having with t68.
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BaronSamedi
Joined: Jul 03, 2002
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I was going to give you my opinion, but I not sure if it would be "educated" enough. Is a Phd. in condescension sufficient? |
MrHat
Joined: Jun 09, 2002
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Well I've got a BSc in laziness so that should be fine 
I think any one who can touch their nose best 2 times outa 3 is qualified. |
mruane
Joined: May 08, 2002
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From: New Zealand
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I just posted this link in another thread but its also worth you looking at it too ( http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=HTC-GPRS-PDA ). It certainly spins my wheel, it looks like it has everything you would find in a P800 and an IPaq 3970 except the Bluetooth and camera. The bluetooth can be provided via the SD slot. So how important is a camera?
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pinolo77
Joined: Jan 17, 2002
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From: Lugaggia, Switzerland
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I like the fact that with a P800 you have all features in one,you never have to sync meetings and contact from one device to another and you only have to sync one device with your computer.On the other hand Symbian might take some time to get nice and useful applications.The memory looks good to me provided you sync it repeatedly enough.I would buy P800 because all in one can be much easier to handle and,in the end,more useful.But that is my opinion...I would not like to have 2 gadgets if one can make it al
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GOwin
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I usually hate all-in-one devices. They attempt to do everything, and end up doing nothing excellently.
So I'd rather have a separate PDA and a phone. At least, if something happens to one device, the other device is still useful. |
kevin81
Joined: Mar 12, 2002
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
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MrHat: Just a note about the price. Everyone is complaining about how expensive P800 is, and you yourself mentioned how expensive Sony MS Duos are. So isn't the P800's price justified by a MS Duo 8MB is included? And the fact that it replaces 2, 3 different devices at once?  |
andrew99
Joined: Nov 29, 2001
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From: london
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We are still speculating about prices. I'm quite hopefull that the P800 will be subsidised by networks which are keen to see people use more data servies, and MMS.
But at £550 I would also lean towards a pda with a large installed user base, and lots more software et cetera...
I do like the P800 from what we've seen, but it won't be as good a pda as a 3970, as small a phone as a T68 and the camera is "average" with no flash.
It is going to have to be reasonably priced for me to buy it, say around £300 with a contract |
vimto2000
Joined: May 22, 2002
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From: UK
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If i was gonna get antother PDA it would definately be an iPAQ, the P800 is a very good idea but i think it would be too limited in the functionality!! i hardly will ever use the camera as i've got a decent digi cam, also i got a decent phone. And comparing a P800 to the iPAQ as a PDA there's really no competion.
Depends on really how much u like all in one devices!!! |
Allan R.
Joined: Jun 18, 2002
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From: Manila Philippines
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I was about to post a similar question but came upon this thread so...
Anyway, the P800 looks very promising. I currently use a T68i and a Sony Clie N760C. Now if the P800 could replace my two gadgets, then great.
But I'm kinda unsure about the OS of the P800. I'm not all that familiar with the Symbian OS and I've grown very accustomed to the Palm OS. A big plus with the Palm OS are the thousands of freeware and shareware programs available. Does the Symbian OS have the same support of 3rd party developers?
Lastly, is the Symbian OS similar in operation/function to the Palm OS?
Thanks guys. |
Bajie
Joined: May 20, 2002
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From: London
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Great thread.
I'm on the "want a P800 wagon". But when I look at it more .... "logically" I know I'll wait to see what's around the corner.
3G is going to happen and the phones we have now may, but probably won't, work on this system.
I currently have T68i and ClieN770. The only problem I have is sending information [pictures] from phone to clie. Not a great problem in the great scheme of things.
Another issue for me is the size of the P800. Its not gargantuan, but it definitely is visible. As a work tool, brilliant, but I wouldn't want to take it out "socially" as it is too large to be discreet. I do wonder how my opinion would change if the P800 came with PalmOs instead of Symbian though. |
jplacson
Joined: Apr 21, 2002
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from my experience with Symbian SW, it's a lot efficient than Palm's OS... it doesn't need the hardware to conform to it the way Palm and Pocket PC do. EPOC actually adapts to the hardware it's plugged into... the main problem with Symbian is their business strategy... they were isolated in Europe with no US and Asian 3rd party support, until now.
The OS itself is VERY stable, VERY fast, and VERY efficient (CPU, Battery, and byte-wise) I'd have to say that Palm and Symbian are on similar levels in terms of features and speed... PPC is just... well, nevermind that... Symbian might pick up due to the fact that Nokia AND SE are supporting it with their high-end phones.
The GUI on the P800 looks great... a cross between PPC, and Palm. 3rd party support isn't that extensive yet... but the P800 comes with an SDK for those of you who have the time, skill and patience to make your own apps.
I have no problems with the height or width of the P800... I do have a problem with the thickness though... 1"????? Even the primitive 7650 is 1" thick... with the 7650 hitting 2" when opened! If it's cuz of the cameras... then I suggest they just make those cameras add-on accessories. |
jh67
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I've seen P-800,..and it looks nice, not that big really.
(also tried the 7650).
But I would still use a more ordinary small phone,..basically because the P-800 is too big to have in an e.g. shirt-pocket.
I use Ipaq H3870 and T68i,...a very good combination. Pocket pc 2002 is very good in terms of "mobile communication".
For those who think about Ipaq H3970 with 400Mhz processor being faster than 3870,..think again,..3970 an e.g. LOOX is not faster than 3870 , as the CE/pocket pc OS doesnt support faster processors at the moment.
So the reason for bying H3970 would be more ROM-space and a screen thats been optimized.
The JOEY XDA I tested,..this is a very good device, and You could use it with a SD-bluetooth card.
Pocket pc 2002 and mobile unit works really good together on this device.
The built-quality of the JOEY is very good,..actually made at the same factory as Ipaq
The P-800 DOES look good in real life, no doubt about it.
Its great to hear if SE will include the developers Kit,..as this kit for Symbian is quite expensive to purchase
Symbian V-7 on P-800 seems to work good,..it also works ok on 7650, although they are not using the same version of Symbian.
It does seem fast and efficient.
only real problem can be, that there are no programs out there yet for Symbian,..but they will surely come too 
I do still like pocket pc 2002 a lot,..very easy and very good with the communication-features.
It's all a matter of taste, I guess
I'm not quite sure if I'll get the P-800,...might just wait and get the new version of T68 instead...and use this together with a very good pda instead.
Jan
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MrHat
Joined: Jun 09, 2002
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jplacson - I don't think the P800 is that much thicker than the t68i.
Here's what Esato has on the sizes:
t68i= 101 x 48 x 20 mm
P800= 117 x 59 x 27 mm
Only 7mm thicker. |
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Posted: 2002-07-04 18:04
