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Invalid Mobile Message on a T610 (Help Me Please) |
sunnychad
Joined: May 28, 2003
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In the last week, I have had Invalid Mobile instead of the operators name come up on my screen 4 times.
The reasons I have been given are as follows;
The operator said;
SIM card needs changing as it is too old for the phone. The latest phones operate differently and in some ways are incompatible with the sim card hence the message.
SE Tech Support I said;
The phones stolen mate, take it back where you got it from. It was brand new, boxed and sealed, so I doubt that. T-Mobile stickers are only put on at the warehouse right? Retailers don't have their own stash do they?
SE Tech Support II said;
The phone is definitely faulty, take it back and get a new one.
SE service centre said;
It is a network issue, contact your service provider for assistance. The phone is absolutely fine, that message will only originate via the network.
Retailer;
We'll change it for you.
Frankly I am now pee'd off at the prospect of changing a phone which has been customised to me. My Pictures, my ringtones etc. to be juggled again!!! I am already on my 7th phone, I hope there is someone out there who can help. Also please let me know if you have experienced the same?
Thanks and please help...my 14th day is tomorrow, so I need a response by 12pm BST GMT Friday 4 July 2003.
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sunjivas
Joined: Aug 17, 2002
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im quite sure its a network issue m8.
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flomp
Joined: Jun 26, 2003
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Hmmm, that's interesting. For a period of about 30 secs today mine said "SOS Calls Only" instead of "O2-UK" but I think that was because network coverage was weak. |
Lars
Joined: Jun 01, 2003
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@flomp
yup when there's no coverage, the phone will show SOS. i had that since i was using T28.
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ac
Joined: Feb 09, 2003
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On 2003-07-03 18:43:08, sunnychad wrote:
In the last week, I have had Invalid Mobile instead of the operators name come up on my screen 4 times.
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Hi,
I had the same problem with my T610 about a month ago. The "Invalid mobile" message appeared several times on only one day. I did the following:
1. I got the operator to white list the IMEI number and...
2. Did a master reset of the phone (I really didn't want to but was pretty worried about this sudden problem  )
After this I never got the message again.
This is what the operator had to say about the problem:
The "Invalid mobile" message appears probably duo to the fact that the IMEI numbering scheme is different in new  phones (most probably in others as well). The IMEI number has more characters (1 or 2 more I think) than the usual pattern. This makes the switch unable to do location update/checking etc. for the phone and hence kind of "deny" it any service.
You can read about the new IMEI numbering scheme at The BABT website
Hope the info helps. |
pritc_s
Joined: Jan 22, 2002
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That last bit about the extra two ditgits on new SE phones is poo. Ericsson and SonyEricsson have always have an extra to digits when you do *#06#, those two number are never sent buy your handset to the network. I guess they are for Ericsson/SE reference only. But they will not cause a prob.
Invaild Mobile, normally means one of three things has happened. 1)handset's imei has been blacklisted 2) The HLR that holds all your details is corput in someway (easily fixed by operator) or 3) imei network database is corput (happens alot) again easily fixed by operate. |
ac
Joined: Feb 09, 2003
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On 2003-07-04 08:59:58, pritc_s wrote:
That last bit about the extra two ditgits on new SE phones is poo.
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The IMEI of my T610 was not blacklisted and HLR update was happening without any problem (i.e. HLR wasn't corrupt). However, the IMEI did not show up when searched. The operator could not explain as to why the IMEI was not showing up although HLR update was happening correctly. The most likely reason was because the switching system was somehow not able to properly "read" the new IMEI. Refer to relevant portion from the BABT website given below:
The IMEI uniquely identifies an individual mobile station and thereby provides a means for controlling access to GSM networks based on mobile station types or individual units.
The full IMEI structure is as follows:
NNXXXX YY ZZZZZZ A
Where:
TAC Type Allocation Code, formerly known as Type Approval Code = NNXXXX
NN Reporting Body Identifier, e.g. BABT
XXXX Type Identifier defined by BABT
YY This was previously a separate part of the IMEI – the Final Assembly Code (FAC).
The FAC is now obsolete and all IMEI allocations after 31/12/2002 have an 8 digit TAC. YY is set to 00 from 01/01/2003 until 31/03/2004. Setting to 00 permits the GSM industry to move to 8 digit TAC codes, but until 31/03/2004 this limits production to one million GSM terminals per TAC. Additional TAC’s may be allocated to permit production of more than one million units.
ZZZZZZ Allocated by BABT but assigned to individual mobile stations by the manufacturer
A Phase 1 = 0, Phase 2 & 2+ = check digit and is defined as a function of all other IMEI digits
Since the FAC is obsolete, notification of location of manufacture is no longer required.
Please understand that I'm NOT insisting that I'm 100% correct. There could be other reasons for the "Invalid mobile" message as well. |
davio
Joined: May 23, 2003
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@sunnychad
as far as I know, the 14 days is the period that you can cancel your 12 months airtime contract. if the phone is faulty, it is covered by a 12 month warranty.
I had the Invalid Mobile message several times over a 3 day period about a month ago, and so did my other half who has the same phone bought at the same time
good luck |
BonC
Joined: Jun 18, 2003
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Its nout to do with the phone thats for sure. At least I dont think so.
Ill tell you my story.
I had a Nokia 7250, for a period of a week - no Invalid mobile, no unregistered sim - just a pony camera!
I sold the Nokia 7250 and went back to my Motorola V66 (temporarily, while I made plans to get hold of a T610)
Alll for a sudden, instead of saying T-mobile the V66 screen read unregistered sim. The only way to clear this was to switch off the phone and turn back on. I assumed this was a problem with my V66 and thought bugger it im getting a T610 soon, who cares.
T610 came, put in my old sim and 18 hrs later Invalid mobile comes up. I'm freaking now, so I ring T-mobile. They inform me my sim is damaged and I need a new one at a cost of £10, I'm suprised but I agree.
New sim arrives problem gone. Until last weekend, at exactly 3am the phone read Invalid mobile!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hmmm. It hasnt done it since but leads me to believe it is an operator issuse and cant be anything to do with the phone because it occured on my motorola and t610.
I know the fact that this did not happen on my 7250 disproves this theory, but the 7250 is such a crap phone it does not come into my hypothesis - LOooL
hope this helps.
Ring your operator....
p.s make sure you say "white list my IMEI" not black list - LOOOL |
sunnychad
Joined: May 28, 2003
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From: London, UK
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Thanks everyone for your comments and help.
I have also been informed that it is something to do with GPRS.
I have a new sim-card now, so let's hope goes well!!! |
sodium_808
Joined: Jun 19, 2003
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hi
This problem with "Invalid Mobile" I had it a few times on my t68i after i had my sim card updated on t-mobile, switched the phone off pulled the battery and have'nt seen this problem since. Now have T610 works fine too. The problem to my understanding was with the network and not the phone, as at the local phone shop alot of people had the same problem with T-mobile, they all had phones replaced and the problem was still there, one guy had 9 phone in 4 months as he could'nt use his phone. So if you know the phone works fine keep it..
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Aqu4rius
Joined: Jun 19, 2002
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yea i had the 'invalid mobile' shizzle aswell.
but my t610 has been stolen now  |
ripkord
Joined: Jun 25, 2003
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find whoever stole it and kill them.
seriously.
lol j/k, but they do deserve a kick in the testicular region! |
pritc_s
Joined: Jan 22, 2002
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@ac. In future, please read post's fully. You commented on just the 1st line of my post, thus taking it out of context. I mean that the operator the prev guy spoke to said that it seemed the last two digits of the imei was causing the problem, but that is not the case.
Also you went on about just the hlr being corput. I said there are "3 main reasons" I never said they are the only ones. Just pointed out the top three.
So please dont go off on a power trip. I was just offering my help and experience |
ac
Joined: Feb 09, 2003
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@pritc_s
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On 2003-07-05 15:28:10, pritc_s wrote:
So please dont go off on a power trip. I was just offering my help and experience
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I didn't mean to offend you. Sorry if I've done so. I'd faced this problem and got it solved and was thus sharing my experience just like you. But I didn't like the word "poo". |
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Posted: 2003-07-03 18:43
