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pinolo77
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Posted: 2002-09-06 01:02
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I am in the US for my internship and I brought my beloved t68 (upgraded R2E006) with me. It is cool to have a phone working here! I also got a Cingular card for it and now I am just fine.
The problem is that the reception is bad. It changes from 0 to max if you cross the street or turn around a building... I was just wondering if this is due to the reception of the t68 (it might be bad on a 1900Mhz network) or if Cingular has to be blamed. I never had any reception problems back in Europe.

Another frustrating thing is that all the cool features of my phone are absolutely useless here (MMS, E-mail, GPRS)...
I think that is the reason why those advanced phones are not sold much in the US. This is just the market where European producers (Nokia and so on) empty their stocks of old phones.

Europe is much better if you own a phone. I also complained all the time about carriers, but here it is 3rd World! My question now is: is the reception of the t68 worse on 1900Mhz or is it just a network problem?

Of course I am aware that in California most buildings are made of steel and this doesn't help that much mobile phones.
Anyone able to answer or wants to comment?


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riflogic
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Posted: 2002-09-06 01:06
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I have not been to America; but I have heard that GSM over there is still in its infancy and has yet to be in full-swing as Europe and Asia.
Froddan
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Posted: 2002-09-06 01:09
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Probably a bit of both. I guess there's a reason to Motorola sticking to ext antennas on almost all models.
I live out on the countryside in Stockholm, and my t68 has poorer reception than my old 7110, ext antenna has better reception in poor conditions, would be the conclusion.
diddy0071
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Posted: 2002-09-06 01:17
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Welcome To the US! I am a Citizen of the US, and am sorry to say that cell phone reception is terrible over here, and that crossing the street will give you that terrible reception. Also, you are subscribed to Cingular, which is the worst US cell phone company in the world. Reception is very bad, and people have complained about it, (at least everyone I know) So, the US cellular phone system is horrible, but I have to stand it. I live here!

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nwmq1
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Posted: 2002-09-06 01:38
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"The worst US cell phone company in the world"

Just had to qoute it, sounded so funny!

hahahahaha

Well at least maybe the worst in the US
jnonhoffzieg
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Posted: 2002-09-06 01:51
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I bought my T68m here in California from Cingular. I went to Basel, Switzerland and had it upgraded to R2F0004. In California, my reception has been good both before and after the upgrade. When I was in Europe (Germany and Switzerland) my phone was constantly losing signal and I often couldn't use it at all. I couldn't use my advanced features like GPRS over there which works fine for me here in CA. Also, my SMS often didn't work over there across networks. My phone seems to have better reception here with 1900 than there with 1800. I have been on GSM here since late 1997 when I had a Motorola StarTek with PacBell (now Cingular). As for Cingular being the worst cell company, that's BS. In California Cingular is the ONLY GSM network and the others like ATT or VS (T-Mobile) use Cingular's network for their GSM/GPRS offerings. It is still true that the US lags Europe in the newest technology, but this lag has been diminishing fast in the past year or two. One complaint I still have is that no carrier over here supports MMS yet.

It is so cool to get off an international flight and make a call right away on my own phone!!!

Anyway pino77 if you need something cool for your phone while you are here, try this i-melody I made. Its called Heartbeat 101 and I think you will like it:

BEGIN:IMELODY
VERSION:1.2
FORMAT:CLASS1.0
NAME:Heartbeat 101
COMPOSER:Jeffrey Nonhoff-Zieg
BEAT:56
MELODY:(ledonvibeonvibeonvibeonvibeonvibeonledoffvibeoffr5ledonvibeonvibeonvibeonledoffvibeoffr2@101)
END:IMELODY
T68m -> R2F0004 on Cingular - I want my MMS!
diddy0071
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Posted: 2002-09-06 01:53
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Let's have it then, Anyone out there know of the worst cell phone company in the world? Let us Know! Try to beat Cingular, with their bad reception, small coverage area, and Expensive ass phones and plans! Sure they are having the rollover minutes plan now, but you have to have the 39.99 or above plan to qualify for it. So if you are subscribed to a shittier company than that, I would like to know!
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jnonhoffzieg
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Posted: 2002-09-06 02:09
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That one is easy! The worst US cell phone company in the world is... Sprint PCS! :-D

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diddy0071
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Posted: 2002-09-06 02:10
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Naww, that's just the most expensive one. Actually I know many people who are pleased with this service....try again!
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Deltayoda
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Posted: 2002-09-06 06:18
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Diddly0071, Cingular used to have great rates before, but they have seriously changed it and made it A LOT more expensive and practically ridiculous prices. I wouldn't be surprised if they go bankrupt.

As for reception, I don't know pinolo77. The reception is just wierd here, but they do have GPRS and Email, no MMS though.
diddy0071
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Posted: 2002-09-06 06:21
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see, like I said, Cingular really sucks! I hate cingular, and half of Northern california doesn't like it either! Finally someone who agrees with me!


by the way, my screen name is Diddy0071, (as in Diddy Kong) not DIDDLY0071, (honest mistake, or typo I bet)

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Deltayoda
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Posted: 2002-09-06 06:39
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Opps
Flateric
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Posted: 2002-09-06 11:00
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Hi, im from Switzerland and i used my T68m in Florida last december! The coverage outside the bigger cities is pretty bad. But when i had a signal it was very good with at&t. What i noticed was that the battery went much faster than here in Europe. Probably the phone needs more power to get a signal? However SMS worked fine....... So everything was fine until i got the bill from my Operator here in Switzerland! 2 weeks holiday, approx. 3 or 4 call a days, i ended up with a roaming charge of Sfr. 250.-- approx. USD 166.--. What a surprise....... Roaming is still a a golden cow for operators!!!!!!!

Cheers

Switzerland rulez

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gazobee
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Posted: 2002-09-06 11:24
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I was in California from August 21st to 29th. I must say that I was very happy with the reception that I got. My phone switched between ATT and Cingular and I must say that neither one seemed to be any better that the other.

SMS worked fine over there, but my friends in the UK who are on Vodafone couldn't reply to me. Other nets seemed to work fine.

As was said earlier in the thread, it was nice to get off an international flight, take my phone out of my pocket and make a call. I still have no idea what my roaming charges will be as I haven't had my bill yet. Let's hope it's a pleasant surprise.
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Cophia
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Posted: 2002-09-06 13:23
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I go roaming a lot, away from home in the U.K.

Depending on how much pull your operator has, it may be that you don't have all your home features available when you're abroad (SMS across networks, GPRS, CSD etc.).

I know that if I am on Vodafone then all my features are always available if I am roaming on Vodafone, but if I am on another network like Orange then I may lose GPRS access because Orange do not have a GPRS roaming agreement with Vodafone etc.

Generally I use Sprint in San Francisco, and it's pretty good (although roaming in the U.S. is expensive compared with most other parts of the world). Obviously, signal degrades when you leave populated areas.


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