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Today I played with a T68 with Java |
fregor
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What would you drooling people do with a Java enabled phone?
I remember some friends of mine hasted to upgrade their Siemens SL45 to SL45i version. -"For just having the latest!" They never used the function in the phone...so sad. I have to go with "c96sthl" on this one... Can't see a real use for Java apps in cell phones today. Wake me up again when the operators and service providers get their eyes open.
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jcpsad
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i'm using the java apps (7650)... its really helpful!
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jlpk007
Joined: Aug 03, 2002
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i dun mind paying for java in t68....as long as it is possible....all i want is to downlaod java games into t68 while on my way home.......the games in t68 is way too boring |
fu|at^t68
Joined: Sep 14, 2002
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yeah... after looking at the mophun game they have. damn~ i just want java so badly.
if the T-300 have the bluetooth and calendar option. i already own a T-300~!
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jb
Joined: May 21, 2002
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Hold on a minute. There should be no license-fee for SE if they developed the virtual machine and supporting software themselves.
If they used software from sun - that is a whole other question because then they would reselling the work of sun.
If they themselves made T68 run java code there would be no license fee involved at all. |
Merkur
Joined: Dec 05, 2001
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I would like to point out that we will probably not see a Java SW for T68i. It has reached the end of it's life. Most of the bugs have been sprayed and it's become a stable product.
However, it does make a good platform to develop new things. In CeBIT I played with a T68i with downloadable games on it. That makes no garantee that the T68i will ever have that.
The first time I saw Sync ML, EMS and MMS was in the Ericsson booth in 2000 CeBIT and they used spcecial Demo phones. Red R320's with the letters PROTOTYPE written on them in white letters. They were only using the phone as a platform for development or even demonstration!
I think SE will introduce us to the next T68i quite soon! I hope it will have an inbulit camera and at least 4096 display... or 65000 display to kick the competition good. |
ppcrockar
Joined: Mar 04, 2002
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I would prefer Mophun over Java actually. Mophun seems alot better..
I just downloaded th Mophun SDK, and the included examples with source are nice. It seems rather easy to develop games for it using C/C++ |
Coramoor
Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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Sorry to take away your hopes..
But I sent an email to sony ericsson support center about mophun or java in the t68i...
this was their reply: (I copied the mail directly from my inbox)
(And yes.. the reply made me sad to...)
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Dear Consumer,
Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson Customer Care Center.
The T68i will never support Java or the Mophun platform.
Best regards,
/Joen
Sony Ericsson Customer Care Center
Please contact us again if we can be of further assistance and also visit our
website http://www.SonyEricsson.com for more information and support on our
products.
mailto:Questions.se@support.sonyericsson.com,
Questions.no@support.sonyericsson.com, Questions.dk@support.sonyericsson.com or
Questions.fi@support.sonyericsson.com
Question:
Subject: T68i
Product: T68i
Opinion: Is there a possibility of you guys ever adding Java or mophun support
to the t68i in a future upgrade?
Country: NO
First Name: Audun
Last Name: Skilbrei
Phone Number: +4748118194
City/ Region: Stord/Hordaland
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This should end this dicussion.. and if you don't (want to) believe me(quite understandable). You can send a mail yourself. The mail address is there.
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Fahed_2000
Joined: Feb 12, 2002
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it could be a special version of the t68
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jb
Joined: May 21, 2002
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On 2002-12-03 11:37, ppcrockar wrote:
I would prefer Mophun over Java actually. Mophun seems alot better..
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I fully agree. |
jb
Joined: May 21, 2002
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On 2002-12-03 23:43, Coramoor wrote:
Sorry to take away your hopes..
But I sent an email to sony ericsson support center about mophun or java in the t68i...
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That has more to do with product positioning in the market than technical problems. It would be "bad" if T68 would compete with T300. |
nickhills
Joined: Oct 20, 2002
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guys, (and girls)
I have a friend (of a friend) who works for the ericsson part of (SE) mainly working on power transmission, and speech encoding, as opposed to all the fancy bits like games. Well he had to pop over to ericsson europe HQ, and met some of the guys writing the phone software. It just so happened that he had a T68, and one of the guys offered to update the firmware for him. There were however consequences. All of the original phone images were lost, and he was only able to store 6 of his own pictures, and most of the default ringtones dissappered too, however what he did gain was a JAVA based app for measuring signal strength, and reporting cell info. A bit like the net monitor option on a nokia (oops, sorry i swore) This is possibly the 'debug' option that the thread starter was talking about.
But don't get excited, as i have said, he had to sacrifice most of his phone memory to get the thing on there in the first place, and eventually got bored of it (it was also dog-slow)and had the phone (re)flashed to t68i, thus recovering his 'lost' phone memory.
so...to be honest, i think you can rule out the possibility of a firware upgrade to include java support, the phone just cant support it (viably),when you think of the libraries the phone would need to store for application development to become widespread among the developer community, and besides, its hardly a fast processor in the handset anyway, and seeing as j code is compiled at run time you'd probably need to stick a itanium in you phone to get it running smoothly 
sorry guys, but it was nice while it lasted |
ppcrockar
Joined: Mar 04, 2002
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IMHO Mophun is a much more interesting alternative than Java. Mophun seems far superior when it comes to games. |
faca
Joined: Jul 11, 2002
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If there was such an app, then there is no way it was written in Java. J2ME MIDP (which is what is being integrated into mobile phones) does not have access to things like signal strength or cell info. It is very limited when it comes to interaction with the rest of the phone. Basically, it can only draw something on the screen and register when a user presses something on the keyboard.
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Knut.G.
Joined: Mar 12, 2002
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Well, they have access to a bit more, I mean, they would have to have access to SOME core functions for email java apps and such to work.
-Knut |
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