Posted by Johan
Ive heard late August, early September .. but i would like a more exact date ..
Does anyone know?
Im about to sell my 2month old (warrantychange) T68"I" .. throw up some additional cash and buy myself the beautiful and great phone: Nokia 7210.
Ive tried it.. and i love it!
Posted by Raven
Yeah, I'm waiting for that one too! I don't think they've set an actual date yet, my guess is mid-september... So, you've tried it?-why not tell us a little bit about it?
Posted by orang3
frm what i know it is ard the 3rd quarter ..
Posted by Johan
The screen is totally awesome.. so bright and sharp. Just love those 4096 colours .. makes the T68 very lame in comparison.
I also like the polyphonic ringtones .. I havnt tried the javafunction, but i bet its cool as hell.
The buttons are very cool.. it think it takes some time to get used to their position .. but it isnt that hard to press them as you could think
Posted by shklar1
And what about the size? is it small?
Posted by Johan
It is almost identical to the Nokia 8310 .. a bit longer though!
Posted by riflogic
Nokia 7210 will be hitting the shelves (in the UK) on the 1st September 2002. Go to www.argos.co.uk and go to mobile phone section on the website for more information.
Posted by tiidusk
I think that Nokia has very big problems with battery! But, hey! That's just my opinion :-)
Posted by tiidusk
I think that Nokia has very big problems with battery! But, hey! That's just my opinion :-)
Posted by decoy7
it will be released late August, early September.
Posted by arus
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I have Nokia 8310 and T68i and use both everyday.
And this is the secret what I can tell you, my t68i bettery always drain faster than 8310.
I can say I use 8310 more often than t68i.
So question is which one got very big problems with battery actually ? heh..
Posted by anas
i dont think nokia 7210 is better than t68i at all
i think it is better in the colors only and the tones.
it is hard to use t68i for about 3 months and then go to the worse 7210, but please who used it give us a full review about it, is it really that much better from t68i?
because yesterday i brought 8910 for free but i think if 7210 or 6610 are better than t68i i may sell the 8910, because the 7210 will be released in my country august 31st.
and could somebody tell us the expected release date for 6610?
thx
Posted by jr_rca
yeah nokia is fine when it comes to fast menu but the menu navigation is pretty old.....same old system. 7210 and 6610 is like 8310 with color lcd and lots of bugs and crasher for sure.
Posted by anas
nokia is a piece of shit al leaset there is no screeeeeeeeeeeeeensaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by errorken
LOL
and there is one on the T68i ?
ow yeah ! I forgot ! its the total useless function that you see about 5 seconds and then is replaced by the SE unique super feature: THE CLOCK ! lolz
Ow yeah baby, I sure hope that 7210 will rock:)
Posted by Super G
Ah finally, some do praise 7210 in this forum
Yeah, 7210 is awesome. And 6610 is even better (classier, very pure and simple design. The white shell has this kind of chameleon color like we used to see on e.g. 6110, which gives it trendy reflections)! But ok, these are my personal opinion.
7210's keypad has nothing difficult to use, actually, the keys are very well placed, much closer to the thumb than traditional keypads in fact. Though the only thing I don't like is the up arrow, a bit difficult in my mind.
Now, 6610's keypad has a perfect size.
They're a bit longer than 8310, but the size is really perfect. It feels good in the hand, it has a huge, bright and crisp screen. When looking at my old 8310, the 8310 looks too small
Also 7210 and 6610 have 2 uplink timeslots for GPRS, like all GPRS phones from Nokia as far as I've seen. This is just sooo good! Well 100% faster than SE or Motorola or Siemens or Philips or... phones to send something like MMS for instance
Ah btw, check this out for some midi ringtones! Quite cool! There's some Santana, Gorillaz, Kylie Minogue etc etc. The one I like most is definitely Ghostbusters!
http://www.nokia-asia.com/nokia_apac/asia_pacific/midi/midi_ringtones/midi_main.html
Posted by Silex
OK, 7210/6610 have larger & brighter screens. BUT :
* They don't support animated gifs
* They don't support Bluetooth
* The pop port feature is new and not yet spead on other devices
* Still same bloody Nokia menus, only difference : it is in color
* Everybody is gonna have the same 7210 phone in one year
* Polyphonic / midi tones may sound good, but it's very hard to hear them when there's a lot of noise
Just think about it before replacing your T68!
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[ This Message was edited by: Silex on 2002-08-23 08:17 ]
Posted by jr_rca
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yeah it will surely rock....as in no movement because it crashes!! :lol
Posted by Super G
You can definitely very well hear the polyphonic midi ringtones, at least as far as what I've heard from 7210!! And for reference, go to Korea and Japan, you won't find traditional ringtones at all. 'was there two years ago, and I was impressed by these nice musics
Europe is late in this respect, but is catching up.
And midi ringtones are so much less annoying than traditional ringtones... I still haven't understood why people keep on putting the volume of their phone at the maximum while there's the vibrating function! People usually don't seem to care about others.
Anyway, I'm currently using .wav files today with my communicator as ringtone, i.e. it plays normal music, and you can hear it quite well.
Posted by Johan
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And how do you know this??.. have you tried the phone?? .. dont think so.
Dont mention anything you know nothing about!
And the screensaver?.. geesh! .. who uses that crappy feature after all?
Posted by errorken
How do I know what?
I know the T68i sux on some areas (on areas wich I find very important) because I had one for 2weeks and then sold it, so I know where I'm talking about.
I dont know if the 7210 rocks because its not out yet, I said that I HOPE the 7210 will rock:)
Posted by Johan
I wasnt reffering to your answer.. i was replying to jr_rca
Posted by bart
hi guys, i have a swedish friend that has got some contacts whit nokia and he had a quick test whit the 7210 and he said that the navigation buttons are very bad alsow the if you want to send an SMS the buttons on the outside are not that good, even when you use T9. and it feels like a piece of plastic. only the colour screen is good but not in the daylight.
Posted by Linkinpark17UK
Apparently Argos are gonna sell them on the 1st of septmeber I think on pay as you go, dunno about contract though.
Posted by boysaint
long live T68! still the king! it has forced nokia to come up with phones like 6610, 7210, 7650. tho' just like what everone said... still the old nokia menu.... that crashes like 8310. imagine the t68 being a year ahead... a year older than all those mentioned colored nokias.... and those nokias still cannot totally compete with t68!
Posted by Raven
What about the T68, do you think ericsson would have made such a model, design wise and with an internal antenna, if it wasn't for nokia?
Posted by d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z
every new nokia that comes out has some defect or bugs. the philippines is nokia country and the only country in the world where nokia has sold more units than any country on earth. i can see here that mostly nokia phones easily breaks down, the repair rate of nokia is 8-10% while it's competitors (ericsson, samsung, motorola etc.) is just only 3% done by an european survey group. to bad most of my countrymen still think nokia is a good buy and a quality product. 6610 and 7210 are good phones but they lack almost all of the features of the t68i. not a good value for money and their only great point is more color on the screen. polyphonic tones sounds good but when outdoors you can't hear it especially in malls where there are lots of people. go ahead guys waste your money on these feeble products.
Posted by Raven
I've owned nokias before and I've never experienced any bugs or other difficulties with them(5110,6110,3310,8210,8850), but my brother has a 8310 which is like nothing but trouble. And the 8310 is the only phone from nokia I've heard about that has this much reported flaws. Still have'nt heard one bad thing about the 7650. So I see no reason in proclaming that the 7210 and 6610 will filled with bugs and other shit! Sometimes it really seems like alot of you guys ar SE employees or just bought off.
Posted by Raven
sorry for posting twise
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Posted by Raven
Don't get me wrong I'm not a huge nokia fan and I love my T68, but I do try to keep an open mind. The 6610 and 7210's advances over the T68 in numerous ways like bigger and better screen, more colours, polyphonic ringtones, exchangeable covers, stereo radio, java and faster menus. For me that is more important then blutooth and animated gifs.
Posted by anas
I really agree with you raven, but it is really hard for you to use the t68i that its now the best phone in the market after the 7650 and then transfer to 6610 or 7210, I agree that java, polyphonic ringtones, speaker, large colorful screen and the changeable covers is more useful than bluetooth etc, but there are many impressive things that really makes you love the T68i, last thursday i had 8910 for free, and i really liked it design, and i am now welling to sell my T68i and exchange the 8910 with a 6610, but i don't think i will go for the 6610, i think i will stick with my t68i or bring the 7650, infact yesterday I called the nokia retailer in my country and they told me that 6610 will be released late september or early october and i asked about 7210 they told me it will be released september 31st and the its price will be between $400 - $460, i dont think it will be higher than that, and if the 6610 will be in the same price range i'm 100% confident that i will stick with my t68i (that means having a more valuable phone than 6610).
but at last 6610, 7210 and 7650 are really a great phones, but the point is that i find it very hard to have a t68i for 4 months and get used to it then transfer to something less useful and you wont feel its that perfect as the t68i.
i had the t68i from the first weak it came out and i liked it, its like the best thing i've ever get, and i dont think anybody will have the same satisfaction with 6610 or 7210.
thx
Posted by Raven
Maybe you're right, but we'll just have to wait and see! :-) I bought my T68 in october last year and I just feel like it's time for a change/upgrade. I've got the 7210 on preorder, but I will be keeping my T68m(i) and MCA-20 communicam!
Posted by Johan
I bought my T68 two dayes after release, since then ive gotten three (2) new phones .. so this one i have now, is the fourth in order ..
I am REALLY dissapointed with the quality of the T68, some of the issues i have had with all my four T68.s:
*Crashing OS. (on two phones)
*Sound issues (crackling noise in phone, not able to talk in it)
*Silverpaint on Yes/No buttons falling off.
*Goldcolour on the casing coming off.
*Charging problems
And i have never abused none of my phones, they have been treated with the fullest of respect.
And things that appear upon all T68:
*SLOW menusystem / OS
*Bad lighting, display
*REALLY bad ligting, keypad
*Soft and spongy buttons .. they feel really cheap.
*Easy scratch display
*Low sound ringtones
I have had 5 Nokias before my T68, and i never had any problems with any of them. . so Sony Ericsson couldnt convince me to stay with them.. so my next phone will doubtless be the Nokia 7210 or 6610
Posted by juming
Just for information, that I've T68i that still working perfectly until now. Maybe your experience is case by case only. And yes 7210 has better battery since it using 1100 mah lithium polymer battery, just compare with 700 mah t68i battery.
Posted by Den
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I have T68 - it is very buggy according to NOKIA phones - now it (mine T68) is a second time in the service point for correcting those bugs and as said FOR TWO WEEKS!
6610 HAS vibrate (just checked - absolutely shure information!) and updates is always free for NOKIA. Actualy NOKIA was the first who had a free servisec!!! My T68 is in SC for two weeks now - NOKIA usualy gives NEW PHONE in such cases (NEVER LONG WAITINGS!)!!!
S55 is very bad and disapointing according to reports! (Yes it seems very good, but test says that not!)
And finaly:
6610:
+ NOKIA = NO BUGS!
+ 4096 colors, 128*128 (SUPER!)
+ polyphonic sounds (has vibrate!)
+ Stereo FM radio INSIDE(!)
+ INTERNAL(!) hands-free (VERY SUPER!!!)
+ changeable covers! (GOOD!)
+ Java (VERY GOOD!!!)
+ Port-Port
- no Bluetooth (not needed & it has port-port & IRDA instead)
- WAP 1.2.1
- no voice dial (not needed at all!)
T68(i):
- SonyEricsson = VERY BUGGY!
- 256 color, much smaller resolution! (BAD!)
- no polyphonic sounds
- no internal Stereo FM radio, external only
- no internal hands-free! (VERY BAD!)
- not changeable covers
- no Java (VERY BAD!)
- no port-port (but has bloetooth )
+ Bluetooth (Very good, but usualy not needed!)
+ WAP 2.0 (VERY GOOD!!!)
+ voice dial (not needed at all!)
? camera (NOT NEEDED AT ALL, ESPECIALY EXTERNAL!)
After this second going to Service Centre where mine phone was taken for two weeks from me. I'm seriosly thinking about change to 6610 ... its NOKIA = NO BUGS! (I had many Nokia phones before T68! So I know this! ALso now using OLD 6150 (works fine from year 1999!) as a replace phone until get my T68 back from SC), good service and many things I realy need in this phone, only no WAP 2,0 is bad, but I can use WAP 1.2.1 - its not a problem!
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Some additions ...
Some people say that they have problems with Nokia phones (especialy & most of them with 8310) - don't know itself - never had 8310 because was a owner of my first SE phone (T68) this time & had no problems with other Nokia phones ... may be 8310 is realy bad Nokia phone - sometimes it happens! Hope will not happen with 6610 or 7210! But even in this case tose problems with Nokia seems to be SOFTWARE problems (as reported), but software is not hard to change & it takes only some minutes! If Nokia has a hardware problems - so these are very bad problems (e.g. heared about dysplay problem on 33/82-series) that cames from bad detailes given to Nokia from third part (from Mexico). In this case Nokia simply change all bad phones to good ones & correct problem forever by stoping buying bad parts! But mine Ericsson T68 and a lot of Ericsson phones of other users ALWAYS have a HARDWARE problems and they never correct them finaly! About every half year or even smaller period (actually 2-4 month!) You will need to brinng your phone to SC for TWO WEEKS for correcting those problems... then your SE phone works realy fine for about 3 month, and then again you are without phone for two weeks! It is situation as I see it!
SO I'm really thinking about buying a 6610, so just keep us informed in this topic when you get 7210/6610 in your country! Thanks to all!
Posted by anas
@johan
i bought the t68i i didnt bought the t68 then upgrade it and i am still with r2a014 and im really happy and satisfied with it, i never had an os crashes never, no sound issue or noise at all, no charging problems, i agree with u that the color fades even in t68i, the menu is not slow at all but its not fast, i have a good lightining in keypad with a high quality good display, and i also agree that the keyboard is horrible, Easy scratch display, and low sound melodies.
@den
t68i is not buggy at all with me, 6610 has vibra and everyone know this, AND NOKIA IS BUGGY and i know more than 20 people have used 8310 and not satisfied at all, and i think s55 is a good phone, and i agree with u about what u said about 6610 its super. that thing is called POP-PORT NOT PORT-PORT, AND THERE IS VOICE DIAL IN 6610, and PLEAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE SE IS NOT BUGGY AT ALL, and nokia is full of bugs, i think u never seen an 8310 even, and sony ericsson service point here is perfect, i have a lifetime warranty, and in anytime i want i can go to the service point and tell them i want a new phone without any problem they will give u a new phone, and they wont even repair it they will just let you have a new phone, so i dont have a problem with se service point.
it is just a matter of 3 - 6 days and everyone will see the truth that u can see it now
nokia sux
Posted by NetGuy2
@Anas
Where do you live?
Where is this SE ServicePoint?
What have you did to have the LifeTime Warranty?
NetGuy2
Posted by anas
you only pay additional 30 usd, all the phones are the same way, but most of them arent life time, the minimum is 3 or 2 years warranty and some of them u cant have a new phone when u have a technical problem
Posted by hurtinglifelessbone
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Posted by Deltayoda
+ NOKIA = NO BUGS!
Yeah right, just like all the other Nokia phones claim to have no bugs, but when you buy it, it begins doing some whacky stuff. Oh lets not get into the topic of construction, most of my Nokia phones have collapsed structurally(And it's not very hard to do), except my Analog Nokia phones, which are impressively solid.
So, I have to agree with anas on this one.
My T68i has not crashed, it has not jammed, it has never had any problems whatsoever after using it for a million times.
That review where it claims bluetooth is not needed, well, I need it. My T68i goes quite will with my IPAQ, and works very well. I also had bad expriences with Nokia, and my T68i has never been as bad, infact, I never had one bad moment with my T68i. I'm not a fanatic to either companies, but I'll always go with whatever phone is better, and right now the T68i is far better for me than any phone out there.
All in all, that review is just absurd.
Posted by Johan
I think that quality issues are very individual .. I have never had any problems whatsoever with my five Nokiaphones .. but every single one of my four T68.s have had problems...
This made me loose my confidence in Sony Ericsson..
Posted by Johan
Does anyone know if the Nokia 7210 is equipped with IrDA?
Posted by Raven
Yep, I believe it is!
Posted by Johan
Oh, thank you .. someone said that it didnt have IR ..
Its pretty useful when sending numbers, contacs, and so on.
Posted by errorken
Well as far as I'm concerned the 7210 will NOT have irda, no bluetooth no voice dialing and some other stuff. I dont know where I found it (it was some time ago) but I'm pretty sure of it
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hmm well I think it has ir :
General Network GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900
Introduced 2002
Size Dimensions 106 x 45 x 17.5 mm, 83 cc
Weight 83 g
Display Type Color graphics, 4096 colors Size ?
- Dynamic font size
- Softkey
Optional Ringtones 20 + 15 polyphonic
Vibration In phone
Languages Country dependant
- Xpress-on covers
- Polyphonic ring tones
- MMS
- Profiles
- Ascending ringing tones
- Personal alert tones
Memory Numbers in phone 500 names x3 numbers
Dialed calls 10
Received calls 10
Missed calls 10
- 3 phone numbers per name
- 150 text messages
- 14 voice dial numbers
- 100-250 calendar notes
Features SMS Send/Receive
Clock Yes
Alarm Yes
Data GPRS
Infrared port Yes
Games 2 preinstalled, More via WAP
Colors 3 - Turquoise, Orange, and Brown
- Downloadable Java applications
- FM radio
- WAP 1.2.1
- T9
- Calculator
- Voice record
- Voice command
- Infrared transfer of data between compatible phones
- Pop-Port interface
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Posted by Silex
Does anyone know if the Nokia 7210 will allow picture phonebook like the T68? And how much pictures the phone can store? As it's a colour phone it would be great to put a photo for each contact.
Posted by Johan
I have heard that there soon will be a snapon-camera avalible to the 7210 and 6610 similar to the T68 mca 20.
And the phone is after all equipped with MMS .. that should guarantee that the phone is able to store images.
Then again the images on the 7210 should be a bit larger than the Y68 ones, because the greater colourspectrum. (4096 colours) .. bye bye my T68 lousy screen..
Posted by andrew99
@errorken
You say 7210 doesn't have IR, then you list it in the features...
Posted by Raven
Yeah, what's up with that?
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Just think I was going to buy the 8310!!