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Posted by jenbones
I have seen some threads about hiphop music, especially 2pac, and uploading tracks etc...so i thought we should make the hip-hop/gangsta thread...

let's go homies

What do you all think of 50 cent?


Posted by Qoastro
The Esato 50 cent or the singer?

Btw, Gangsta/Star Wars-fans
Check this one out: http://www.apelsin.nu/classics/?url=gangsta

Enjoy

Posted by 50Cent
Quote:

On 2005-07-19 19:48:34, jenbones wrote:
What do you all think of 50 cent?



well the esato member rules.. and the rapper ALSO rules

Posted by jenbones
I think they both suck...

Posted by Qoastro


What do you guys think of the Star Wars gangsta rap then?



Posted by jenbones
Seen it before...

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Posted by kk.226
Can we please have some post here with some of the best ever hip hop/rap songs of all time, that should be interesting. Hoping that not ALL of them will be Tupac...

Just want to see what everyone's taste is like

Posted by jenbones
2pac is the obvious hip-hop king...

How about


list your top 10 hip-hop/gangsta stars

mine goes:

1. Tupac Shakur
2. Biggie Smalls
3. Dr. Dre(Andre Young)
4. Eminem(Marshall Mathers)
5. The Game(chuck taylor)
6 Snoop Doggy dawg
7. Jay-z
8. Nas(Nasir Jones)
9. LL Cool J
10. Kanye West / 50 cent


Don't know if you guys have heard but Eminem is following Jay-z on the way to retirment, he is schedueled to retire in September, (early Sept)

Posted by jenbones
Ahdam, i'll send it over msn

Posted by 50Cent
Quote:

On 2005-07-19 20:36:04, jenbones wrote:
I think they both suck...




Ahem.. i'll pretend i didnt see that



Posted by Kryptik
Altho i've been a 2pac fan since his first album, there are many brilliant rappers out there. Just heard WarrenG doing the Regulator thing on the radio, brought back memories...

Posted by Stinger151
yer theres other rappers out there who are ess known like nate dogg, warren g, scarface, method man,
But the crown is forever worn by pac then snoop, dre, nwa members.
can someone show me where to get the games dreams from?

Posted by Kryptik
Do any of you dudes remember 2LiveCrew, and if so, do any of you know where i could find any mp3 or wav by them?

Posted by mince-inside
I guess I'm more old school with my hip hop, so my fave 3 are (in no order)

Grand Master Flash (fave with Melle Mel "White Lines")
Run DMC ("Walk this way" was quite a revolution)
House of Pain (fave "Jump Around")


Guess Beastie Boys should really get a mention


Posted by anay
Song

I got five on it

Posted by SlickSter
hey all .. soz to get off sub but thought this might be of interest !!
http://www.zedge.no/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=20164&highlight=

any views....



Posted by jenbones
Dead link mate

Posted by joebmc
Taken from the link (hope you've got some spare time )

Hey Guys i had founded some facts on 2Pac's death that clearly shows that 2pac's alive.....!
And most of all i had founded 2pac's dead body's pic and his sighting's pic.....!
That clearly shows hes alive well you can judge by reading the facts.....
Is this a mystery or not....???
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Facts i founded on a site...!

After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996. Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.

Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life.

Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96?

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.

A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop was signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.

In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight?

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case?

Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.

Tupac studied Machiavelli in depth while in prision was a fan and had read his books several times. Perhaps Tupac is taking his advice. Machiaveli wrote two books before his death. Look at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called.. Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same

One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.

Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."

The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7. It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.

There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".
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More suspicious facts including sightings info...

The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). The Outlawz have confirmed Simon is a reference to Suge Knight who was with Tupac the night of the shooting.

In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.

In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?

In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf*ckin' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.

Tupac "died" in Las Vegas which is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.

The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?

There's a small Black community on the North side of town.. This strip is only about 8 blocks long.. If the attackers were Black.. Where did they go? Where did they hide?

The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of Tupac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?

The cover of Tupac's album Makaveli has him looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection?

Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with the Tupac shooting?

There were no ballistic tests in the murder case... At least we haven't heard about them....

Tupac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did Tupac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?

Suge said he drove Tupac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was Tupac hit?

Tupac had completed 2 movies and 3 LP’s that have were to be released.. With so many people upset about Tupac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...

There is a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn’t cashed.

The video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death ....
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In addition to number 19, Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?

In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name from 2 Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy.

Suge Knight and Tupac are the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death...

People close to Death Row and relatives of other famous rappers have speculated to me and others about the shooting being staged.

Why wouldn’t a company as powerful and rich as Death Row Records not put up a reward to find the killers?

Other possible clues are contained in the new album. It is called “The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory” which is still a mystery in definition. Inside the cover, it reads “Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli” as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born.

The cover of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory holds many hidden icons, and references Marketing Hype

The only witness who was going to step up and I.D. the shooter was Kadafi (Yafeu Fula) but he was shot a few months after Tupac.

In the first few seconds of the Makaveli song INTRO/BOMB FIRST, you can hear who is claimed to be Kadafi saying "Suge Shot Me"

Tupac always rapped and did videos on his death, and how his funeral would be. Why was he cremated?

In the song, " Life of An Outlaw," an Outlaw says, "All For the street fame on how to be managed, to plan shit six months in advane to what we plotted, approved to go on swole, and now I got it..."

In the song, "Made Niggas," on the, "Gang Related," and, "Supercop," soundtracks, Tupac says, "*bleep* 'em all who can't understand my plot to get richer...Outlaw to the grave, a mutha*bleep*in' made nigga..."
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In E-40's duet with Tupac called,"Million Dollar Spot," Tupac states, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so I evade and plot and plan a life of better things..."

In the song, "Ain't Hard 2 Find," Tupac says, "I heard rumors that I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know mama cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted..."

In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli?

The video, "I Ain't Mad At Cha, " was released only days after Tupac's, "death." It depicts Tupac being gunned down much of the way he was really shot.

"I Ain't Mad At Cha," is also track number 13 on, "All Eyez On Me," and Tupac died on Friday the 13

In the, "I Ain't Mad At Cha," video, Tupac dies. In his next video, "Toss It Up," his name is Makaveli.

In the, "Hail Mary," video, there is a gravestone that says, "Makaveli." It is cracked and there's a hole in front of it; this inplies that Makaveli rose from the dead. Marketing Hype

In the,"Smile," video with Scarface, Tupac is crucified...Later he falls and stands up and it appears to be a double. Still, is this another image of resurection? Why make people so suspicious? Marketing Hype

"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 1: " Now these money hungry bitches gettin' suspicious, started plott'n and planin' on schemes..."

"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 3: "payoff tha block, evade tha cops, 'cause I know they comin' for me, I been hesitant to reappear been away for years now I'm back...my adversaries been reduced to tears...

"White Man's World," 3rd verse:"Time so tell me why, you changed choosing new direction, in a blink of an eye, my time away just made perfection... Did you think I'd die, not gonna cry ..."

"Life of an Outlaw", Verse 2:"Who should I call when I'm shot and bleedin, indeed the possibility has part a chase in cream, dope got me hatin' fiends. Scheme wit my team, just a chosen few."


"Blasphemy", Verse 2:"I'm contemplating plots, wondering which door to go, brotha getting shot, coming back resurrected, it's just that raw shit, nigga check it..."


Did Bone Thugs N Harmony play a role in helping Tupac fake his death? In the, "Thug Luv," song, right before Tupac starts rapping, Bizzy can be heard in the background saying, "He's alive, he's alive, he's alive..." Marketing Hype

Machiavelli's book, "the Art of War," is also the name of Bone's new album. Marketing Hype

In the movie, "Gridlock'd," when Tupac and Roth are in the diner and they glance up at the menu, all the L's are upside down 7's.

In the movie, "Gang Related," Tupac and Belushi wait in room 7, and Tupac's badge number is 115; 1+1+5=7.

The cross on Tupac's back says, "Exodus 16:31." , The verse itself seems to have little meaning, but read this verse, found right above it:, "So the people rested on the seventh day." All of Exodus 16 deals with the 7 Dayz.

The song in which Tupac says he's alive, "Hold Ya Head," on the Makaveli CD, before Tupac begins rapping, a voice says, "Can you see him?" Another voice replies, "I see him." Then Tupac softly says, "I'm alive..."


Why have Suge Knight and the rest of his entourage been so uncooperative with police in solving the murder?

Since his death, there have been numerous reports of Tupac sightings.

Sighting of 2Pac after his death in newspaper...!



His Body



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Posted by darksyde
Rap/hip hop was so political back then... now all you hear is rappers rappin bout how much cash they have... the nice cars... the onion booties....

Respect to the true pioneers!

N.W.A
Public Enemy
Boogie Down Production (BDP)

still got my old lps!

i remember back in the days when tupac had a flat top! hehehe
he is a lyrical genius shame his life was cut short!



Posted by Stinger151
joebmc u should have posted all that about 2pac here http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=98283

Posted by brix25
Right now listening to MF Doom- Doomsday...one of the nicest albums around.

Posted by Aero_4_Lite
old skool rocks! ie. Apache, 3 is the magic number, Walk this way, Jump around etc....

Posted by jenbones
Quote:

On 2005-07-20 18:38:57, darksyde wrote:
Rap/hip hop was so political back then... now all you hear is rappers rappin bout how much cash they have... the nice cars... the onion booties....

Respect to the true pioneers!

N.W.A
Public Enemy
Boogie Down Production (BDP)

still got my old lps!

i remember back in the days when tupac had a flat top! hehehe
he is a lyrical genius shame his life was cut short!






Totally agree with you mate
the big shots are pac, method man, big L, biggie and master Jay
Long live N.W.A, death row, aftermath
f#!k G-unit sh!t !!

Posted by mince-inside
Quote:

On 2005-07-20 01:56:41, anay wrote:
Song
I got five on it



@anay if your post was referring a Beatsie Boy track you were placing a fiver on then it would have to be:
"(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party)"

Close behind
"Girls"
"No Sleep Till Brooklyn"
"She's on It"


Posted by darksyde
Quote:

On 2005-07-20 22:25:15, mince-inside wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-07-20 01:56:41, anay wrote:
Song
I got five on it



@anay if your post was referring a Beatsie Boy track you were placing a fiver on then it would have to be:
"(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party)"

Close behind
"Girls"
"No Sleep Till Brooklyn"
"She's on It"





????

i got 5 on it

isn't that the luniz track?

Posted by Sirhackalot
Some of My favorite Rappers!!
Ti
Twista
50cent
The Game
Busta Rymes
Trick Daddy
Nelly
Chigy

Some of my favorite songs!!
(Jump on it)-Twista feat Ti and leffy strokes
(Like a 24)-Twista feat Ti
(Right Thurr)-Chingy
(Outta Control)-The Game
(Higher)-50cent ,The Game
(Soldier)-Ti feat Destiny Child
(Hate it or Love it)-50 cent
(Make it Hurt)-Busta Rymes
(You don't Know Me)-Ti
(Some Cut)-Triville
(Game Over)-Lil Flip
(Damn)-YoungBloodz
(Can We Leave Here)-Nelly
(Freak-A-Leak)-Pete Pablo


List can go on and on!!!!

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Posted by jenbones
Chingy - worst rapper of all time
Lil john - second worst rapper of all time


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