Posted by vanquish
@axxxr
Its now time to leave it, but i wouldnt say calling someone an idiot was petty name calling, i would call it stating the facts. Face it! This is a delicate thread and your first post in it was just... petty! It was meant to be humouress, which in my view is stupid. So no, you wont get an apology from me, sorry, but as a religious person i dont like seeing people walking all over my beliefs as if they are nothing, which i saw you do in another thread.
@scotsboyuk
sorry mate, lets continue the discussion,
Posted by carkitter
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Hmm... Look back at your posts, you'll see where you're out of line.
Why would I PM a mod? I never shrink from a vigorous debate. Just look at the America/Iraq thread. However I don't insult the opponent, they just get frustrated when thier argument falls flat.
Posted by vanquish
@car
I am not saying everyone that gets involved in political debates causes the thread to get out of hand. I fully believe that you are a mature and responsible guy that likes a debate, but remember other people arent like that and its better to be safe than sorry, in my view stop political and religious major debates to avoid someone saying something stupid, or someone getting hurt.
Posted by axxxr
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I'm not going to allow you get away with your pathetic remarks..If you want to know the facts then i shall have to come down to your low level and tell you that your a Pr*ck now thats A FACT...why don't you go and run back to se-nse because we here are regualar members and we stick to one forum...I spend all my time on esato so for me this forum is my only forum that i use...and like to discuss what i feel and like,and i shall continue to do so...and how and when did i walk all over your beliefs?...can you elaborate,clearly you have some major problems.
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Posted by absinthebri
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For me it's not so much other people's opinions that are the issue (I accept and respect a person's right to hold a view and to share that view); it's ofen an issue of fact.
Take for example, the messages of condolence from world leaders after last Thursday's outrage. The Israeli Foreign Minister said, "Israel, which has a long experience of terrorism, shares in the pain of the British people... I hope that the free world will now be less lax in its attitude towards terrorist organisations." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4660415.stm). That is a political statement. The condolence is a mere aside for him to spread a message through.
I would say that the state of Israel is one of the greatest terrorist organisations in the world. The body count of innocent Palestinian deaths is there for all to see. My statement is clearly political (that it's factual makes it no less political).
Some people will ask why I singled out Israel's comment and they are right - I'm making a specific political point.
This post may attract comments. Politics is everywhere.
Posted by vanquish
Why do you have to have the last word! STOP TALKING.
@car
I agree, i was out of line i apologise but i get worked up when people think they are funny when they arent.
I wonder what laffen makes of political/religious discussions?
Posted by absinthebri
He started it. --->
Posted by vanquish
Just ignore it.
Can we get back on topic? I stopped arguing a few minutes ago
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Posted by axxxr
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I won't let you get away with insulting me understand...now be a good little lad and let this topic continue as it was mean to ok!
Now you can do the decent thing and appologise to me directly and then we can all be happy again.
Posted by carkitter
You know, I do believe we're back on topic.
I come here for the Mobile phone discussions and axxxr's gadget news.
Political/religious debats are just a bouns.
Posted by tranquil
@vanquish and Axxxr
Please continue your discussion via PM.
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Well if you hadnt posted your little humour-thingy whatever you want to call it then it wouldnt have got off topic
@car
Well, they are a bonus but can get out of hand. After all, extremists may be on Esato this very minute. Emotional members etc. etc. you dont want to hurt anyone, it should be a community that accepts all and having political religious discussions just take away that freedom. Its not about freedom of speech, its about mobile phones. I stress again, mobile phones.
Posted by axxxr
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Yes i have PM'd vanquish and hopefully he will continue there.
Posted by vanquish
I don't want a PM thanks
@tranquil
So do you think it is a possiblity that these threads shall be moderated more in the future?
Posted by axxxr
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what are you a coward now that you can't face me!
Posted by vanquish
Are you deaf? Dont use this thread for your petty gripes mate, anyway i just did face you
I am trying to ask tranquil a question!!!
Posted by tranquil
@vanquish
We are monitoring topics all the time.
Moderating a topic on religion or politics are a strain (read touchy subject) so I find it easiest to leave them running till the get out of hand and lock/remove them.
We do remove the odd post as we spot them but all I could say to answer your question is in my earlier post.
Posted by methylated_spirit
for f*cks sake, you two need your heads knocked together. vanquish can start a fight in an empty room, and axxxr, you're rising to it, you dont need to qualify yourself to someone who will just rattle on anyway. This thread was supposed to be a sensible look at the way some things are done here, and its turned into a flame war between at least half a dozen members! Come on guys, all of you. I hate to say it, but its the usual half dozen people doing the bickering...
Posted by vanquish
For gods sake!
I didnt start this bloody fight he did! Will you stop siding to him because he continually posts rubbish news 24/7, i mean, god, hes not supreme to me or anything. This is really annoying me now. Just because im 15 is that any reason to think less of me? I respect other peoples views but you all dont seem to be respecting mine. I have done nothing wrong, i called axxxrs first post stupid. Has anyone actually READ it?
Please guys, dont be fooled
@tranquil
Why dont you get another moderator then, there is only two of you! Less work for you both.
Posted by axxxr
Yes i agree with you meths this just isn't worth it...some people just don't know when to quit..at least we all know now what he's like.
Tranquil:
I do think now their should be a dedictated Politics and Religions forum linked to the mobile free zone...maybe even a password protected entrance so to keep anyone who is not interested in a political debate outside and in the mobile area...just an idea.
Posted by vanquish
Nah, thats a stupid idea. Its not a political forum!
Posted by tranquil
@Axxxr
I woulden't mind that at all.
By logging on you accept to flamed and called names.
Posted by axxxr
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People will discuss politics here no matter what...just learn to accept the fact...you can either work to improve on this or carry on moaning about why their should'nt be politics and religion on esato.
Posted by vanquish
So why are you posting in this thread then. Its about scotsboyuk and other members being sick of you and others with your political antics that result in fall outs, flaming and bannings.
Posted by Indiandawg
i disagree..!!..
Posted by vanquish
Seems like everyone is disagreeing with me today. Ah well, thats life but i shall not back down.
Posted by axxxr
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Like i said learn to accept the fact that I and others will continue to post political threads...so you and others like yourself can go and do whatever you like..Politics and Religion is part of esato...If anyone's flaming its YOU...and your making people fall out by your insulting remarks.
Posted by vanquish
My insulting remarks?
Just recall them for me please.
Posted by PeterKay
stop acting childish.
There's no need
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Posted by methylated_spirit
Ooooh, poor, poor, thread! Started off so well...
Posted by vanquish
What the hell! I am not being childish and i am not the enemy. Im actually peed off at the moment. First time in a long time, why do you all resort to calling me childish?
Posted by tranquil
A small handfull of members has taken this topic so far off track now so I hereby lock it.
After locking this topic scotsboyuk PMed me asking for a last word.
Seing it's "his" topic I feel it fair to let him do just that.
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