Posted by amnesia
common sean, dont say Islamic website.
Say it's an extremist site with Islamic beliefs.
Muslims dont support extremist since their view in the religion is not what believe in essence anyway. So you could say they are not muslims at all.
(if it's true anyway)
it just takes one misconception to ruin attitudes towards races and religions.
Islam is about peace and honor. This defies it and goes against that.
Did you know that it's against the religion to force it upon people? So how can these extremists call themselves muslims.
*sighs*
Posted by fu1at
if they dont plan to kill why did they have to explode it on a peak hours? i can't view online tv... anyone can post some link which i can view some online news.
some of my friends are there! Please?
Posted by White_Spirit
i dont spose google would list al-queda websites do you
Posted by JiggyJaggy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4659489.stm
Posted by Cornholio_666
@fu1at i'm watching bbc news 24 on my tv
Posted by fu1at
please post me the link.... thank you. desperate to know what's happening there.
Posted by seanflynn
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Very true Amenesia I was getting muddled up
with what i was meaning thank you for your correction.
Posted by amnesia
no worries.
it's just like I said, people skim through forums, and I wouldn't want them thinking that it really was just a normal Islamic site. (if you could call those bastards muslims anyway) DAMN THEM! for ruining the Muslim image.
Posted by haynesycop
this is so sad
it has to be al qaeda
the start of the g8 summit were all the world leaders are so security is more tight in scotland
it doesnt take a genuis to realise what they were planning
what has the world come to
all those poor people who have lost husbands, wifes, brothers and sisters
it was bound to happen sooner or later
i just hope esato members here and everyone in london keeps safe
Posted by jemo
IRA could never plan something like that, them b*astards r 2 busy racketeering, selling drugs, and robbing banks (northern bank heist) , i wouldnt b suprised if there was a backlash on muslims in london after this, especially withth bnp in london
Posted by Cornholio_666
i would hope there wouldn't be a backlash against any religion following this event. why should a whole religious community suffer from the actions of a few people (who are being dickheads)
Posted by haynesycop
i know what you mean
i dont blame all arabs or anything ridiculous like that it just so happens that the fanatics that belong to the al qaeda group share the same religion in many cases
i totally understand were amnesia is coming from
these people need to get a life how would they feel if it was there own families being innocently killed
there is just no need
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Posted by Ayush
Anybody got the site link? My deepest condolence to the british
Posted by Cornholio_666
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm
Posted by absinthebri
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You mean like in Falluja and Palestine?
Posted by Ayush
The link to the site claiming responsibility for the attack
Posted by Cornholio_666
this is what is left of the bus that was hit
Posted by haynesycop
i am not saying who or were
but it seems obvious
we have to be careful not to stereotype different religions like amnesia pointed out
this doesnt just boil down to religion on its own
it is just evil fanatical people
Posted by axxxr
Its very sad to learn of these attacks my thoughts are with the families who have lost loved ones and the people who have been injured.
Why is it that wherever Bush goes he brings devastastion a distruction along with him...Clearly these attacks were timed to coincide with the G8 summit.
I suppose we have to pay the price now for Blair and Bush dragging us into this war with Iraq,what did bush & blair think that their would be no repercussions of the war?...And for all the idiots who supported the war this is why myself and many like me were against it,because in the end its us who have to suffer.
Posted by haynesycop
i understand were you are coming from
but i understand why they did it, they wanted to help but it backfired bigtime
but we have to ask the question if we hadnt gone to war and brought saddam to justice what would the world be like
better or worse
who knows
???
Posted by seanflynn
I hope bush comes down on these terrorists with all his power and might and he will no doubt have the full backing of the UK.
Posted by absinthebri
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What justice? What about the 100,000 Iraqis who are now too dead to have an opinion?
BTW, what happened today in London is an attrocity and what the UK has done, or not done, in th past in NO WAY excuses innocent people being killed, but perhaps it helps explain some people's motivation. If it is, of course, al-Qaeda behind it all.
Posted by batesie
i really struggle to understand how people that think they will go to heaven/paradise if they kill and injure innocent people.
Posted by haynesycop
i agree
these people need to be stopped
people can blame the war but these people have to be stopped things will get worse before they become better
we just have to believe that justice will be done and the world will hopefully become a better place
it is heartbreaking for people to loose family members in the war and in these terror attacks
i really feel for them
Posted by jemo
some people arent going 2 c it that way, these terrorists arent even proper muslims, but wot im saying is that there will now be a moral panic in the uk, the media will highten it, an r local chavs will probably tink its funny to kick a few muslims heads in, not realising that they r innocent.....people never c it the full way when an attack happens like this luk at 9/11 for example, there was hostality towards arab-americans
Posted by JK
how and what was saddam doing to the rest of the world??? they said he was a terrorist with WMD... we all know he didnt have them...
the world would still be the same exept there would be no american soldiers dead and thousands of innocent iraqis still alive!!
my deepest condolences to those in london...
Posted by absinthebri
LONDON, England (CNN) -- A previously unknown group calling itself the "Secret Organization Group of al Qaeda of Jihad in Europe" has released a statement claiming responsibility for the subway and bus bombings in London.
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/W[....]07/explosions.claim/index.html
Posted by haynesycop
that is what i am saying these people are fanatics
whether or not they are muslim or arab is another story and is just coincedental
people are too quick to judge and label people with any hesitation which is wrong
Posted by jemo
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innocent iraquis were being killed under sadam dont forget, no american soldiers dead yes, but who knows how many more innocents would have been butchered under saddams regime
Posted by absinthebri
Statement claiming London attacks. Full text.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660391.stm
Posted by batesie
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WHY do people think that??? jemo your provoking tension by accusing normal people of this! has someone done this yet then??? NO!
Muslim religion (NOT MUSLIM PEOPLE) has created these extremeists and religion is to blame.
Posted by haynesycop
totally agree
the war opened people eyes if anything else
people disagree with the war because they saw british and american soldiers being killed on the news everyday
thousands of innocent iraqies were being killed by saddam long before the war but because it wasnt in our faces everyday no-one took much notice
its a different story when its people from your own country
Posted by JK
Like they they were bushes primary concern...
saddams rule started in 1990...
Posted by jemo
their quote
In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.
Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.
We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.
We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.
God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly
stuff like this makes more killers, how many people r going to join the british army now???
Posted by absinthebri
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What was that about provoking tension? Islam is as peaceful as any other World Religion; it DOES NOT encourage extremism.
Posted by batesie
They base there beliefs on the Muslim religion!
so yes i blame the RELIGION (Not normal Muslims)
Posted by jemo
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the muslim religion doesnt support these kinds of activities, it is twisted people that mis interpret the religion to better their own cause
an please tell me how i am provoking tension??????
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Posted by JK
its not the religion!!! its the way its interpreted!!
couple weeks ago a guy here who was accused of raping his nieghbour said the bible told him to.. "do unto others, what u want them to do you"... he tawt she wud rape him back!!!!
MISINTERPRETATION!!!!
Posted by jemo
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point im makin, yet im asccused of provoking tension
Posted by scotsboyuk
Can't this thread be kept for posting information on the attacks? Can't you all create another thread if you want to discuss Bush, Blair, Iraq or whatever else?
Posted by absinthebri
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Not by me.
Posted by p900 lover
i agree and think religion is to blame, there is no need for this.
Posted by haynesycop
SCOTSBOYUK
you are right this should be kept for the london attacks
i apologise
this will get to off topic and political
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Posted by Cornholio_666
misinterpretation is a motherf*cker. why don't people say what they mean instead of saying it in a way that gives confusion or other meanings.
Posted by scotsboyuk
There is no need for any of this nonsense. Can you please stop arguing in this thread, some of us would like to use it for factual purposes like discussing what happened. If you really must argue over religion and such like could it be done elsewhere?
Posted by jemo
yes look at northern ireland, catholics an protestants, or so called catholics and protestants, if they were true catholics and protestants they wouldnt b out rioting with each other, because each of their seperate religions teach against this
Posted by absinthebri
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There were a number of explosions in Central London today. There have been confirmed fatalities. There is no further reliable information.
Posted by jemo
any truth in this suicide bomber in canary warf that was shot dead, seen it mentioned earlier in this post
Posted by batesie
i heard from someone who's son works for HSBC that this is true.