Posted by cycne
How many of you agree what George Bush (not America) doing in Iraq is right....
Posted by whizkidd
Me!
Posted by axxxr
cycne welcome to esato my friend!
Bush+Iraq now let me see.....
Posted by PeterKay
Bush is the worlds no.1 terrorist, the amount of people dead under his so called leadership is uncountable. What does he care about people being killed on this planet. In all honesty, i don't think he cares about any african starving too. He will suffer not only in this life but in the hearafter too. How can that man sleep at night - i just dont know.
By the way, Welcome to Esato
Posted by axxxr
Peterkay:....What can i say,Very well said my dear friend!
Posted by PeterKay
That was from the heart dear friend, deeply
That man must answer for a lot.
Posted by Vipera ammodytes
Every(maybe not all but Bush and Clinton for a sure) american presidents hate Serbia!!!!
F*** am all!!!!!!!
Serbia is strong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by axxxr
The b*stard actually crashed his bike into a copper and hurt himself today in scotland..its a shame he did'nt break his neck..that would have been a double celebration coupled with the olympic annoucement.
Posted by PeterKay
not just Serbia, they hate everyone.
All they like is their own country. They think they are right at all times but the rest of the world knows who the real culprits are.
The media in most countries might hide the truth but not all of us are blind. We feel the pain of other humans being killed daily but them so called humans feel no pain.
Their time will come and it will be severe.
Posted by Gigs
Lets not turn this into an american hate thread, since I know alot of americans quite well and alot aren't indicitive of their presidents.
Granted I bash them all the time lol
As for bush, yeah well, screw loose there.
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Did anyone get that on video? That is a must to have on my p910i if anyone can dig it out
Posted by Sammy_boy
I'd almost say that Bush was a war criminal himself - but he's simply too stupid. Listen to him - he can hardly string a sentence together the semi-literate moron! He's probably just a puppet for all those Christian fundamentalist right-wing Neocons and all those Texas oil barons that have brainwashed him into thinking that global warming is hearsay, just like smoking doesn't give you cancer
And I have to post this - don't know if it has been posted here or not (or if John Cleese did write it - I doubt it but it's funny!) but here goes:
JOHN CLEESE'S LETTER TO AMERICA
To the citizens of the United States of America:
In light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and
thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. Her Sovereign Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories (excepting Kansas, which she does not
fancy).
Your new prime minister, Tony Blair, will appoint a governor for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine
whether any of you noticed.
To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary.
Then look up "aluminium," and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.
The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise."
You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra'; you may elect to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you find you simply can't cope with correct pronunciation.
Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels (look up "vocabulary"). Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication.
2. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."
3. You will relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out Task #1 (see above).
4. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but to be celebrated only in England. It will be called "Come-Uppance Day."
5. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.
6. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
7. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and this is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left with immediate effect.
At the same time, you will go metric immediately and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.
8. The Former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling "gasoline") -roughly $6/US gallon. Get used to it.
9. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with mayonnaise but with vinegar.
10. Waiters and waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.
11. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be
referred to as "Lager." American brands will be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine," so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.
12. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in
"Four Weddings and a Funeral" was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.
13. You will cease playing American "football." There is only one kind of proper football; you call it "soccer." Those of you brave enough will, in time, will be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every
twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).
Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the "World Series" for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond
your borders, your error is understandable.
14. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.
15. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due backdated to 1776.
Thank you for your co-operation.
Posted by PeterKay
The guy is just a TIT, no offence ladies
Posted by axxxr
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Ideed their time will come...evil cannot and does not prevail,as the past dictators and butchers in history have learnt that you cannot oppress the world and get away with it.
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Posted by Vipera ammodytes
but and Tony Bler(i dont know his surname ) is not very good
sorry for all UK guys
Posted by axxxr
This is just brilliant...Nice Work Sammy!
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Posted by Jim
Oh gosh ... no conspiracy this time and no flamewars (yet) ?
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Posted by Gigs
OMG thats class, pure class
ROFL at the rugby comments. (since its the same thing i say to my american friends)
I have a little more time for Blair than bush to be honest, though again I guess not living in the uk it can be easier to like people not leading your own country.
Posted by axxxr
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Let us just enjoy slagging off the U.S for now!
Posted by carkitter
To bring some balance to this thread:
Bush is not stupid, he has the same IQ as Kerry, it was revealed recently.
I find it halarious how liberals can advocate peace and harmony in the same sentence as cheerfully wishing a painful death on those who disagree with them....
How can you insist that Americans learn to properly speak english when the majority of Englishmen can't speak it! There was even a show tune written about it -"When will the English learn to speak?" from My Fair Lady.
Why should America become your subjects? Australia, India and Northern Ireland aren't too keen on it! And you thought Manchester could compete with Sydney for the 2000 Olympics?
Austin, Morris, Leyland, Triumph, Rover, Jaguar (in the seventies),DeLorean (built in Northern Ireland) Vauxhall... do I need to elaborate?
PC (political correctness) is nothing more than an aethists substitute moral code to allow discrimination against those who dare to disagree.
In other words socially sanctioned political intolerance.
If Bush is so wrong, how come he behaves calmly and rationally during debates? How come you always see him laughing and smiling, not ranting and indignant? Would Saddam Hussain or Osama Bin Laden tolerate a Michael Moore questioning thier policies? I doubt it.
Open your eyes and your minds. Calm down, put down the placards and show some tolerance.
Posted by Residentevil
Bush went to Harvard and Yale. Yet he is not master of the english language. What does that tell you about his education. His family bought it for him. He went to the National Guard in Texas during the Vietnam War with a waiting list from New York to London. Guess who got him in. And those are facts. He escorted the Bin Laden family out of the US after 9/11. Without even questioning them. Why? That family hold billions of investments in the US.
On the countries suspected of terrorism. Was Iraq in top of the list? No. A dictator does not like terrorists blowing up his country. Nor did Adolf Hitler or Stalin. So why did we go to Iraq. Bush probably thought that is the easiest war to win. Who is getting rich here. Halliburton, Lockheed Martin and others who manufacture missles, guns, bullets and there like. All buddies of Mr. Bush. He is paying them back for all the campaign contributions.
Why would you want to do good to the ordinary taxpayer, who pay you $400K a year as president, when your buddies in the oil and weapon industry pay you millions?
What has Mr. Bush domestically accomplished? The taxcut for the rich? Even Bill Gates said: I do not want this tax cut. I am already well off enough. Medical insurance is going up. Gas is going up. The economy is struggling. Real wages are falling. Government and domestic dept is at an all time high. Could you imagine what we could have accomplished domestically with the billions we pumped into Bush's buddy network?
What does the Decleration of Independence say? The people can abolish the government, when it seems to be grossly unfit to do it's job.
Posted by cycne
America is a country which meles 60% of its revenue by selling weapons so for them making tensions in the world is essential for their business ..... Also they should remember each human killed in iraq or afganisthan will increase the hatred in the enemy minds and may lead to a bloodshed in america ...however developed country you are its possible for a terrorist to attack your country without even giving you the slighest chance !
Posted by amnesia
i say Bush is out there just trying to take control of a country thats in the heart of the middle east.
if you tell him that he can do WHATEVER he wants to aid the people (as he said he's trying to do) but can have NO profit in it (especially by oil) whatsover, watch how fast they run out of there and think of the next country to take over
Posted by JK
Im so glad to see others sharing similar views as me...
Iv always been somewhat anti american... well before 9/11, i guess that really opened the worlds eyes!!
see everything happens for a reason.
Posted by whizkidd
No reason can justify killing thousands of innocent people.
Posted by JK
its reason enough... only 2000 on 9/11, compared to thousands in palestine, thousands dying of hunger, aids and other diseases in africa...
the world cries for them... its shown all over the world etc, its bad i guess but theres a bigger picture... they control the worlds economy, the poorer countries are still indebted to them... yet they still dont alleviate it...?? y??? which one is unjust???
but anyhow... it opened the worlds eyes... thats all im saying.
Posted by Residentevil
It is all about the almighty Dollar.
Posted by Cornholio_666
i wouldn't say the dollar is almighty at the moment 1 us dollar would get you 57pence (£0.57)
Posted by JK
theres more dollars in the world than there is pounds... so the dollar is mightier!!
Posted by Cornholio_666
more dollars buy less pounds. the pound is the strongest currency in the world
Posted by axxxr
Its not about the dollars but about unjust american control over the world....Some people get upset when i compare the Americans with Nazi's but the fact is their is little difference,Hitler wanted control over the world and so does bush...100,000+ Iraqi's die in Iraq due to american policy and they call it liberation and no one bats an eye lid.
Posted by EastCoastStar
it doesnt matter whose currency is mightier, its about bush being a dumba*s
Posted by vanquish
Bush wants the best, but poor guy he seems to mess up alot.
He is human, humans are not perfect. I think too much power is given to him, so when he lets slip, the whole world suffers!
Posted by Sammy_boy
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Does that justify the killing of 3,000 people in a terrorist attack on the Twin Towers, 130+ people in Spain, oh, and however many people have just been killed today in London? I'm not mentioning Iraq deliberately as that's a whole new debate! What will 'fighting fire with fire' achieve? Your logic there would suggest that we should kill as many Americans and Westerners as have died in Africa, Palestine, etc.
I take your point on the US and the world economy, it does basically control that due to it's hyperpower status. And there is a certain arrogance there!
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listen to axxxr... he always has some thought in his head... and he always seems to be right. i never thought about ti before, but it is very easy to compare the nazis with the americans (even though i am one, we know im not proud). you make a good point buddy.
Posted by JK
@sammy
the broader pictures is that the us and uk are killing more poeple than the terror attacks are... those extremists are acting on impulse and want revenge/some sorrt of justice!!!
the only cure is to see it from there side!! or at least try...
i too am sadened by whats happening to this world...!!!
there more oppression the more retaliation... one for one!!
Posted by Sammy_boy
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If what you're saying is that is what is in the mindset of the terrorists and extremists, then I can see your point better. Though in reality I imagine it won't do anything except stir up hatred, possibly Islamophobia (though I hope not) and end up in another country unconnected to terrorism being invaded in some petty act of revenge leading to more deaths!
Seems like a vicious circle to me
Posted by haynesycop
your right it is a vicious circle
which i cant see an end to at this moment in time
unfortunately
Posted by cycne
Its too sympathetic ha there had been a terrorist attack in london but by thinking from the other view , the people of uk would have got a clear picture of what happens iraq everyday and how you feel when you see your relatives dying in front of you.....
Posted by numnums
I have not read the entire thread but wanted to put in some other facts.
Before the latest Iraqi war, sanctions were about to be lifted - and Iraq was going to start selling oil to it's buddies (not the U.S.).
Not wanting this to happen, Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld could only justify a war in Iraq (to steal the oil) by turning Saddam into a threat - the fabled "WMDs" and "connections" to Osama.
Um, none of those reasons were true. Later on they changed their story and said it was for "freedom for the Iraqi people".
Oh, how noble! So, anyway..
The major contractors being used to pump the Iraqi oil are ones Cheney and Bush and Rumsfeld are connected to...
It's really sad that people don't see these obvious facts -- especially here in the U.S. And this is just part of the crimes the U.S. administration is guilty of! I'm so embarrassed and so very sorry to the world!
Posted by carkitter
I would like to offer my condolences to the people of London in the wake of the bombings in the underground and on the buses.
I hope all our UK Esatonians and thier families are safe.
Posted by Jim
I still wonder why the price at the pump keeps getting higher while "we steal" the oil from Iraq ...
Posted by axxxr
God damm bush for bringing terrorism onto our land....hope he and all his supporters rot in hell.
Posted by JK
they keeping it for themselves!!
I tawt bout WW3 last night, its not that far away...
first i tawt of which country is the brittish going to invade to get revenge on yesterdays attacks...
then... if its (and i hope not) a muslim country, the world might go into more chaos...
also the US has 2 big oil resourced countries.. afghanistan and iraq... they kinda dont need Saudi Arabia and should the us cut ties or have any fallout with S arabia be it political or whatever and the saudis back the other oppressed arab countries and stand together...
the arab coutries are waiting for saudi to stand up for them.. they also have nuclear weapons!!! (indonesia and malaysia are muslim countries 2)
that wud be WW3!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by carkitter
Oh yes I'm sure George W has a big tank full of it, out the back of the White House.
Posted by JK
it was a little joke... when people steal stuff they tend to keep it for themselves!!
Posted by carkitter
Haha...funny.
Don't believe all the conspiracy theories. People will think you're gullible. Hell, Michael Moore makes a good living off gullible people.
Posted by JK
said carkitter... supporter of bush. the worst terrorist of them all!!
Posted by Jim
Stop wasting your time on threads that have been covered a zillion of times, the starter of this thread won't reply nor will the supporter as you will flame they down anyway !
Case is closed, forget it for once
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I think you should give the british government and the british people a little more credit!! If we chose to invade a country to seek revenge that would make us no better than the scum that bombed us.
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