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Posted by axxxr
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If the dangers of using mobile phones in petrol stations appear unfounded, why do retailers continue to warn motorists against using them? According to Burgess, mobile phone warnings developed as part of a global drive to increase safety in the late 1980’s. This was largely in response to the Piper-Alpha oil rig disaster just off the Scottish coast in 1988, in which 167 oil-workers lost their lives.

Despite scientific evidence to the contrary, countries around the world continue to caution customers about the dangers of using mobile phones in the vicinity of petrol pumps. This includes Australia, where petrol pumps display stickers that caution motorists to turn off their mobile phones while refuelling. Without any supportive evidence, however, such precautionary action raises the question as to why service stations continue to provide warnings against mobile phones.

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Posted by ijefferies
Switching off phones while filling up does have a few advantages. 1. A few minutes without a stupid ringtone.
2. Not having to listen to the bloke tell wife/girlfriend that he's just filling up and will be home in 4mins.
3. Overhearing the what do you want for tea conversation.
I'm sure there's hundreds of reasons, but can't think of any safety related ones tho....

Posted by Cornholio_666
it was proven on brainiac that mobile phones don't affect the petrol inside the pumps. richard hammond and some brainiacs put lots of mobiles inside a caravan with loads of open tubs of petrol, and rang all the mobile at the same time and nothing happened!

Posted by TheGlassJAw
i remember that one

didnt some dumb american get killed because of a spark caused on the charger connectors?

or perhaps he has a fag in his mouth and talking on the phone made him drop it?

Posted by haynesycop
i had some bloke in work today gabbing on his phone in the petrol station

he wouldnt switch it off either the idiot

there is a small chance of something happening even if it is very slim

he didnt want to listen so i was like fine blow us all up then

Posted by bigredend
The thinking behind it is, if you drop your mobile phone in a petrol station there is a very small chance that the battery could cause a spark which could have dire consequences. I once read this in a petrol station. It is a very very small chance, surely any metal object falling could cause a spark !
Likewise you can't use a mobile in Hospitals in case it interferes with vital equipment, the BMA ruled that this was rubbish and it is apparently now at the hospitals descretion whether mobiles can be used. The Uk is one of the only countries that frowns upon mobiles in Hospitals.They obviosly make too much money off payphones to lift the ban!

Posted by axxxr
Quote:

On 2005-07-05 20:24:27, TheGlassJAw wrote:
didnt some dumb american get killed because of a spark caused on the charger connectors?

or perhaps he has a fag in his mouth and talking on the phone made him drop it?




I doubt it was the mobile that caused the spark,just that the common dumb american must have have dropped his fag and blamed the phone.
Sparks can be caused by your a number of reasons,mobile phones are not one of them...Fires at petrol stations have been known to start from car keys being dropped on the forcourt and ignite a spark.

Posted by carkitter
Petrol stations in NZ display warnings about mobile phones, despite no recorded incidence of a problem... however, Petrol companies have expressed concern about customers being distracted by thier phones and not paying attention to the potentially dangerous act of putting a flammable fuel into thier cars.

On that, I guess they have a point.


Posted by EastCoastStar
that have warnings here too.
i actually have had an experience with this...
once i was filling up while on my mobile, and the person that works there told me to get off over the little intrcom thing, and i didnt, and he actually turned the pump off until i got off of my phone.

only someone in the US could blow themselves up while on the phone pumping gas... lol

Posted by Qoastro
Have anyone of you seen Mythbusters?
The busted that myth big time, and because they didn't manage to blow their home made gas-place up with the phone (the suprising part is that they used a Nokia and it still didn't blow up) they got frustrated, as they usually do when thing don't blow up. So they blew it up anyway.



Posted by Pradhika
After all mobile phones cant be treated equal to cigarette smoking.

Posted by p900 lover
i never turn my fones of when at a petrol station, really now is there a risk?

Posted by Qoastro
There may be a risk if you use a Nokia with a dodgy battery (they tend to blow up) and the explotion could ignite the gasoline. But, meh, that would be like saying that: "If you walk in on a gas-station with your bomb and decides to blow it up, then the explotion could egnite the gas."


What I mean is that it's not dangerous to use a phone on a gas-station in normal cases...

Posted by jenbones
90 percent pf the big petrol price boards are filled with mobile phone mass

Posted by floatlite
The Hospital ban is a joke, my junior brother is a Clinical Psycologist in a massive inner city hospital, and they have "Do not use Mobile Phones in the Hospital Buildings, they can interfere with vital equiptment"

He laughs, as all the doctors and nurse use their phones in the wards etc, they keep the signs up, because they annoy the other patients and staff whilst they are trying to treat them.

The best bit is, if you are admited, the patients can get a "Hospital" mobile with a special PAYG sim, which is 'hospital approved'. It's a bog standard Nokia unit, and an O2 UK sim card. WHAT A CON, lol

He takes pics of horiffic injuries and MMS's them to me during the day to freak me out, as I hate guts and gore!

David

Posted by ||MERLIN||
Quote:

On 2005-07-07 15:20:16, Qoastro wrote:
Have anyone of you seen Mythbusters?
The busted that myth big time, and because they didn't manage to blow their home made gas-place up with the phone (the suprising part is that they used a Nokia and it still didn't blow up) they got frustrated, as they usually do when thing don't blow up. So they blew it up anyway.



Yes, I saw the first part of that experience and the second, cause they repeated the experience. Anyway, the results were the same and as you well explained:

BUSTED

Posted by diakim
This issue of not using your cellphones in petrol stations is more serious than this. Cellphones are known to emit some radiations while in use which reacts with some chemicals which are present in petrol. The same goes for chemicals found in hospitals.

Late last year in Lagos, a male lawyer was pouring petrol inside is generator, while the generator was running. He had his cellphone with him and the phone rang (apparently a call was coming in). Immediately the phone rang, it exploded and the man was engulfed in fire. To cut a long story short, he died many days later in the hospital for various burns all over his body. The news was carried by major newspapers and television stations.

So, to avoid being roasted alive, the wisdom is to refrain using your phone near petrol or volatile chemicals.

Posted by carkitter
I'd like to see the results of the coroner's report on that one.
My guess is that he may have splashed the phone, however lightly, which ignited when a call came through. Also, pouring petrol in a confined space (a petrol station is well ventilated) is not recommended.

Posted by gelfen
there has NEVER been one proven case of a mobile phone causing fire at a petrol station. they do not have sufficient energy output to cause combustion. the real cause is static electricity generated by the driver when he or she gets out of the car (interestingly women are more often the cause of such fires because they are less likely to touch the car body as they exit the vehicle, and thus do not "ground" themselves before filling up).

the reason they are banned is because petrol stations are, by law, designated as a Class 1 Zone 2 Hazardous Area, which prohibits the presence of any potential ignition source regardless of whether that source poses a real danger or otherwise.

Posted by spuddle
i work in a petrol station, lol, i also saw the brainiac thingy where nothing happend, think the main thing is like driving while using your phone, so you concentrate on what your doing more than concentrating on your phone call and go over and then end up not having enough money to pay, also it causes a big queue (which is EXTREEMLY annoying) and pisses off other customers having to wait while some silly person finishes there phone call on what they are having for tea tonight before they can fill up!, imagine if you had to wait for someone in that situation!
also a girl i work with says 2 instances where someone blew his leg off while it was in his pocket and just reeived a txt msg, and someone lost half there face are highly unlikely

Posted by cootuk
The Mythbusters episode showed that most fires at petrol stations were caused by static from people getting out of the car - women had the higher risk as they tend to re-enter the car and not earth themselves (like by opening the door when you first get out) before touching the petrol dispenser again.

If that guy was refilling a generator whilst it was running! then any spill could ignite on a hot generator part.





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