Posted by k0rrupter
Ok, if Any 1 has these files please share it with us. I wanna try it!
muppet: you mentioned that u have these files, u mind sharing it?
Posted by numb
please do not ask stupid requests to share cruiser/firmwares etc etc.
To flash yourself you will need the software Cruiser, a servicecable and access to the supportserver holding the firmwares.
Cruiser is a commercial software that you buy if you are a proffesional unlocker, it comes in a package with the above mentioned and 1 years acces to the firmware server and costs 200-400 euros
Naturally noone who has paid for this package as part of their unlockingbusiness would share it for free to any fool who wants to do it himself but dont want to spend the money on either the equipment or the small cost of letting the unlocker do his business.
If people desperately need to do this themselves, then simply visit the website for cruiser and buy the tools and software needed.
http://www.microengineers.cc/cruiser/home.php
[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2005-06-30 09:18 ]
Posted by muppet
@numb: Well said
Having said that though, no doubt soon Multiserver/Davinci will release the flash files so it will be available at a much lower cost to people.
Posted by Ibinco
lol muppet... i keep refreshing the davinci latest news page every 5 secs in the hope of finding out that they've released it. let them be quick... can't wait to try it out
Posted by rabvtec
@ numb
Quote: 'If people desperately need to do this themselves, then simply visit the website for cruiser and buy the tools and software needed.'
According to an email that I received from www.premiergsm.com (Cruiser reseller in the UK) - this is not available for the end user as it is 'sophisticated professional equipment' :/ ... you'd think it'd be available to anybody that had the dough to pay!!
Anyways, I'm gonna wait for davinci, etc to bring it out, watch for reviews and then decide ... oh Gawd, please make them good
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Posted by Buttoneer
Since the K750 supports it, I wonder if SE will enable the flight mode in future firmware releases once they have managed to put together a stable version?
With smartphones starting to take over areas of peoples lives where for many people PDA's used to do the same job, it seems clear to me that flight mode is essential. Especially so for business users who may wish to access data in flight, in hospitals, in conferences and other areas where the phone should not be on.
I'd say the W800 firmware upgrade, in the meantime, is almost essential.
So do let us know when you get it working, gents!
Posted by deliciosomarron
@ muppet
Thanks for the info. I'm going to visit some phoneshops which might have the said software and equipment to "convert" a d750 to a w800 and if all else fails there's always the internet to find someone who's able to do so.
Posted by Gud
Hi all,
I just got my K750i "upgraded" to W800i (W800i firmware into the K750i). The must be the best of both worlds, the looks of the K750i and the "flightmode" functionality of the W800i.
It works perfectly. I upgraded the firmware to the K750i after the new firmware was released (i.e. R1J). The W800i firmware is R1K001 and seems to have the same functions as R1J for the K750i (two beeps when auto-focus etc). I was a bit worried that the W800i firmware would be full of bugs, but that does not seem like the case.
I won't take time to write a review about it, as there are already some available. Three disappoininting things though:
1) the "music key" (between the softkeys) can not be changed (it always points to the WALKMAN (i.e. MP3-player)). I could have missed where to change the function of the key, though...
2) Some MP3's that could be played with the K750i wont play in the "new phone" some other will. I have used different MP3-encoders for the different MP3's.
3) The 'flight mode' (i.e. "music mode") is not really 'flight mode' as in the P-series. Here one can only use the music player.... but it is good enough to use on those long hauls....
Here are some pictures (proof). The camera I did use didn't have a proper macro mode, thereby the lousy quality (the K750/W800 would have taken much better pics...!).
BTW, I call the phone W750i....
Sligthly new musicplayer
option if the choise of starting the phone or WALKMAN should appear
Start the device as Phone or only music player... (the reason that I "upgraded" the K750i...
Posted by Stinger151
yep afaik it is possible and because the w800i firmware is not branded ur d750i should become unbranded and unlocked.
Posted by scotchgitt
@ GUD what is required to make this change, hardware etc? did you use Cruiser or something else and what owuld it take a typical joe public to create this masterpeice.
thanks
Posted by Gud
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http://www.gsmteknik.se did it for me. I guess before mentioned software could do it as well, but thats nothing I'd consider for the average Joe..
Posted by Brady
Did you send the phone away to this company or something else? Is the camera quality back to being good in this firmware? and is there an option for english?
Thanks
Posted by Gud
@Brady
They can accept phones by mail. The cam seems fine. I didn't see any degradation in quality from in R1J and have not been able to test R1K (W800i) enough yet.
Yes, there is an english language option.
Posted by achill2uk
aint it possible this firmware will come out on davinci the firmware or anyhting so we can all try because i want to do it im not worried at all
Posted by Cyberz
yeah i want it too
Posted by Brady
@Gud
Can you check the camera revision? press >*<<*<* then goto service info then software info to find out the version. > = right on the joystick, < = left.
The reason I ask is because they have severely reduced the camera quality on R1J and R1L from the R1A rev. Rev on R1A is 3.8, and on R1J and R1L it is 4.4. 3.8 had about 200k bitrate, where as they other revisions had 60-70k bitrate.
Thanks
Posted by Gud
@Brady
The camera rev is still 4.4...
Posted by achill2uk
@gud is there anyway possible u can upload this firmware somewhere or any how we can get it?
Posted by azz0r
Can someone please post the way to do this that involves.
A free program
A few clicks
A clear list of problems faced
Just like a mini tutorial for the average fool like myself
Posted by Gud
@achill2uk
No it isn't that easy... For the same reason that one can not upgrade firmware in the K750i in general without using SE's update service (i.e. no file to emailed around).
Posted by mckvakk
Seems like
is not too happy about this, some companies that offer this have recieved mail from telling them to stop doing this
Posted by Yazan24
Is this as simple as the T68m -> T68i conversion?
Posted by muppet
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Sure, as soon as you post a free program for me that will upgrade my Mini Cooper S to a Turbo Charged, NOS Injected, Flame Shooting Beast Of Death!!!
The upgrade has to only take 10 minutes and I only have a screwdriver, nothing else, so make it easy for car newbies like myself!
@everyone: It seems that SE are emailing Unlocking/Flashing shops offering this service, threatening legal action if they don't stop offering it. An understandable move - As another posted pointed out, flashing your phone isn't illegal but having in your posession flash files belonging to SE is.
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Posted by Brady
Anyone know any british sites that are doing the upgrade to W800 firmware? all I've seen so far are swedish ones.
Posted by Stinger151
check out www.se-nse.com im sure ull find their repairs team is doing it. they are based in the uk.
Posted by Vipera ammodytes
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yes STOP this madness!!!! please!!!!!!!
Posted by djsaad1
i like the event and shortcut button. I dont think i would want to get rid of it just for a flight mode.
Posted by kingmobilephone
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we are also providing K750i debranding or firmware upgrade to W800i
pls see a few photo shots from the K750i to W800i
http://www.kingmobilephone.com/sony-ericsson-unlock-london.htm
Posted by muppet
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Why? What's wrong with doing this if you have the tools and flash files available?
I undestand why SE are annoyed, but why does it bother you so much?
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I believe he meant it as a joke, mate.
Posted by vd0t
if i have this procedure done on my k750, if i use SEUS in the future, will it detect my phone as a w800?
n will i continue to receive updates on my phone just like other w800 users?
Posted by muppet
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I think (edit: But am in no way sure and most probably I'm wrong) the detection is based on IMEI so your phone will still be detected as a K750 and flashed with that firmware.
If you want to keep getting online update and "proper" support, flashing your phone to an unsupported firmware isn't the way to do it
If there is someone that can flash your phone, ask them if they will do future updates for free or a discounted price. You have to remember though, there may not be any future updates (look at the P900->P910i upgrade)
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Posted by dpat
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If the SEUS is based on IMEI then why when using davinci do you have to enter the correct CDA, surely the SEUS is based on other parameters in the phone???
Posted by muppet
@dpat: I believe the IMEI is checked first for sanity, then the CDA string so it knows what "version" of the phone it is.
I say this because I had a V800 that I'd flashed to a Z800i. I put in all the right CDA strings for a Z800i with the language pack I'd put on it.
I then tested it on SEUS, telling it that it was a V800 and to put the latest firmware on it. It did this, quite happily, flashing the phone back to a V800 for me.
No one really knows how SEUS works though I think, we're all just taking guesses at it. I could be totally wrong, I shouldn't say things without mentioning that I'm just guessing to the best of my ability.
I've edited my post above, nothing annoys me more than people posting guesswork as fact and I'm glad you pulled me up on doing it!
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Posted by gbrooks3
@Muppet,
I guess SEUS uses a similar nethos as Cruiser's "autodetect" be reading the TAC part of IMEI from OTP, hence detecting what model it is and hence making it impossible to fool SEUS unless you find and undertsand that CALL in the code
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@gbrooks3,
that sounds more reasonable, but why the need to be so acurate on the CDA?
Posted by Phantasm4489
It definately queries the phones IMEI and CDA as i've traced the packets that it sends to the phone while its running. If anyone is interested these are the commands and their responses sent by the SEUS. The bits in brackets and angular brackets <> are my comments
AT
OK
AT+CGSN (Request Product Serial Number Identification - IMEI)
35xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
OK
AT+CGMR (Request Revision Identification)
R1J002 R1J002 prgCXC125952_EU_1_CL
OK
AT*ZPPI=8
*ZPPI: 8,"CDA102286/8"
OK
AT*ZPPI=9
*ZPPI: 9, "R2A"
OK
AT+CGSN (Request Product Serial Number Identification - IMEI)
35xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
OK
AT *EMEM (Ericsson Memory Management)
*EMEM: 29527040, 41507840, 207254, 911180, 0
OK
AT+CBC (Battery Charge (ver. 2)
+CBC: 1, 66
OK
Posted by Primie.uk
So what exaclty do we need to complete the upgrade? In terms of software.
I'm looking to do this myself, can the normal data cable that comes with the K750i do this?
Posted by scotchgitt
I beleive that Java cannot access the phones memory but could it access the flash memory? I am wondering if someone could write a smarter and nicer to use Media Player that would run as a java app. I am not too bothered with the flight mode although it is a nice idea.
Any thoughts?
Posted by Cytech
just some info... the swedish company gsmteknik.se no longer offers the conversion from K750 to W800... it will be offered again as soon as the W800 mobile is out on the market...
Posted by louis85
I just Did it to day upgrade it to w800 From Gsm Teknik
Du killen ja ringde Dom så sa Dom att kom så sa dom att dom inte gör Det Men ja bara ähh vad löjligt sen Sa han till mej kom så fixar ja det Så gick dit Så gjorde han det på 10minuter hehe
Har Firmware R1K001 nu
Posted by Grimslade
Can anyone who's done or played with the upgrade comment on the improvements in the media player? A better media player is a higher priority for me than flight mode...
TIA,
Grim.
Posted by venkers
Hi all.
Got a K750i.
What a company can do we can do it as well no ? So where can we find a tutorial to do this upgrade ?
Mediaplayer of K750i is rubish. I am sure they gonna make it better soon. Folders etc. would be very cool. Just a matter of time I think.
Posted by kingmobilephone
at the moment, remote server doesn't support the convertion....so the only way to do it is to get someone who has cruiser or setool3
honestly, personally speaking, I am using a K750i with W800i firmware, except for the flight mode, I don't see much improvement.. or I will say in the media player option, u can sort the song by artist which the K750i menu doesn't have it ..
www.kingmobilephone.com
Posted by Rob_B
i just want the flight mode though
(but not gonna go through the hassle just to get it!)
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You can sort the songs by artist on the K750i.
Posted by goldensonic9
this might b a dumb question but i have to knw..........i have d750... doh i wanted to convert this to a w800 im on contract(pay monthly) to t-mobile so does this firmware conversion affect the contract in anyway?
if so how?
Posted by Gadgesxi
Read all throught this thread.
Is there no way of:
1) Downloading the prog to flash the phone (k750i)?
2) A site that hosts all Firmwares to download?
or
Is the only way of flashing the phone, is to send it away?
Thanks
Posted by rabvtec
Guys - I took the plunge! I sent my phone off to Ken at www.kingmobilephone.com in London and for £20 I had it debranded, W800i flashed and posted back to me in 4 days!
As mentioned, there is currently no way to remote flash and may be not for some time! These modders have to buy the equipment to do all this and I can't see anyone offering all that for nothing .. while you're waiting .. I've got a W800i in the (cooler) K750i body! ^______^
Ken is a top guy who I found always polite, informative and very helpful. Call him and mention 'rabvtec' and be friendly, because he is!
If anyone wants, post your Qs here and I'll do my best to answer them.
Posted by ronymd
@ rabvtec
questions on k750i to w800i flash:
1) hows the speed overall?
2) camera quality including pics, and videos, the dpi, pixels, etc.?
3) music quality? media player?
4) battery consumption? and during music only mode?
5) voice/speaker, during a call?
6) gprs?
7) how do u sync? since no pc suite for w800 yet (will the pc suite for k750i work?
....thanks!:)