Posted by Arne Anka
By the end of July or beginning of August, SE will start producing improved versions of K750 according to Eldar at mobile-review (its only in russia)
http://www.mobile-review.com/news.php
- Add CCD sensor (instead of CMOS)
- Better auto-focus function in dark conditions
- Better detalization of objects at the distances of 5 meters and lower comparing to CMOS
- Another algorithm of images processing - color saturation is better
- Better macro-mode shot processing
- Saving of shots made increased a little bit
- Power consumption is 5-10 percents higher
- Lens is changed as a result of new CCD sensor
Posted by JiggyJaggy
Mate with this camera im more than happy for the next few months!
Posted by Davo_169
ccd ....nice...bout time too
Posted by Dicky Snapples
why didnt they just have these features in the first place? :-/
Posted by Davo_169
too keep esato busy
Posted by dreamfish
will they improve it though? i'm sure they just rename it and it'll be like a new model!?
Posted by korbindallis
used babel fish
Sony Ericsson K750i Is obtained CccD- matrix [ 12:16 ] author: El'dar Of murtazin After survey Sony Ericsson K750i on iXBT, in which it was written, that the model was equipped by CccD- matrix they arose disputes, what type of matrix is used in the apparatus in reality. On no account it is desirable to offend associates, but in all models of those existing is today used exclusively CMOS- matrices, they originally were planned to the installation in this model. This show test photographs in the accomodations, the noise of matrix increases, they are clearly distinguished. Basic problem at the moment of development Sony Ericsson K750i was size CccD- module, it was not entered in the form factor of telephone, at that moment not there were miniature modules with the acceptable characteristics. Those more curious appears the answer of the service of support Sony Ericsson, I will give its part: "Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson Call Centre. With regards to your enquiry, the camera specifications are as follows: Overview camera K750: CccD-Camera With The Integrated 2.0 megapixel camera with auto focus and digital zoom, the user can take pictures and video clips and save them in the phone memory or on the Memory Stick ". Regular question arises, why producer gives incorrect information and with which this is connected. Blits a study of a question, bells to people, which answer for this product, revealed very curious fact. The service of support obtained this information in connection with the fact that the company actually intends to change the type of matrix in the apparatus. All models, produced at the given moment, and which was put on the market will have a CMOS- sensor, the same concerns the apparatuses, which will be produced supposedly until July. Beginning from August, will occur the replacement of the module of camera, improvements besides the replacement of the type of matrix several: - the best work of auto-focus under the conditions of the low illumination - detailing objects higher at the distances of survey to 5 it is meter in the comparison with CMOS- module - another algorithm of working photographs, rises the color saturation of the picture - the best realization of treating the photographs from the macro-regime - insignificantly grew the time of the retention of the photograph - approximately by 5-10 percent grew the energy consumption - a change in optics of apparatus as a result of the replacement of the matrix Outwardly new CccD- module in no way differs, to see the difference between the "old" and "new" versions of telephones with the unarmed view is impossible. Company will try not to accentuate attention in an improvement in the camera in K750i, at least, to the moment of realization, sale of all already produced telephones. Subsequently both in the advertising materials and on the housing of telephone will appear the inscription about the fact that the module of camera CCD. tentatively this will occur before christmas sales. The module, which will find a use in Sony Ericsson K750i, becomes standard for the entire rule of the products of company, beginning from the average segment. The topovye models of this year will obtain e-megapiksel'nye matrices, but they will be altogether only CMOS. It turns out that optimum characteristics will possess precisely Sony Ericsson K750i. As were spoken many times to that by us, not always the purchase of telephone during the first days after the beginning of sales of opravdanna. Sometimes producer improves some components, as this occurred now. Unfortunately, at the given moment besides the developers of company no one can brag by presence Sony Ericsson K750i with CccD- matrix. We in the required order will draw a comparison of new matrix with the old at the end of the summer, and let us also draw a comparison with other models of this class. Taking into account that the quality of photographs to Sony Ericsson K750 is already today close to the maximum for such products, then the replacement of matrix, which gives increase as (not the times, but nevertheless improvement) appears justified. The main thing, that the producer does not intend to collect additional money for the replacement of the technical equipment of his apparatus. You will recall, as thus far was sharply increased the storage capacity on Sony Ericsson K700, this was pleasant unexpected contingency. So that historical examples be present, plus in the company is the desire to make a product uncompromisingly best.
Posted by Pallister
That`II be the K770i then
Posted by Arne Anka
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For the CCD, the article mentions that at the time K750 was supposed to be released there was no CCD small enought to fit in the formfactor of K750.
Firmware related stuff like improved algorithm will probably be available as an update to old K750 users as well I guess.
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Posted by gbrooks3
Yes! Finally the K750i is worthy of being actually sold. I am definatley waiting for this version now.
Posted by Marcus_129
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WTF are you saying? worthy to be sold?
More worthy than most of the phones out today! You can wait until you die! There will always be better models announced
Posted by goldenface
Subsequently both in the advertising materials and on the housing of telephone will appear the inscription about the fact that the module of camera CCD. tentatively this will occur before christmas sales.
The module, which will find a use in Sony Ericsson K750i, becomes standard for the entire rule of the products of company, beginning from the average segment.
The topovye models of this year will obtain e-megapiksel'nye matrices, but they will be altogether only CMOS.
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Translated does this mean.:
Subsequently in all advertising material and on the handset housing it will state that a CCD sensor is used.
This module which is used in the K750i will become standard in the mid-range segment.
Upper end megapixel models will use CMOS sensors.
Strange way of doing things
Posted by gbrooks3
@Marcus_129
What the Hell is wrong with you? Dont talk to someone you dont know like that! Comeback when you have something useful to say! You think that i have well over 1000 posts at esato and i am not familiar with the concept of Upgrades? hahahaha, joker.
I was just saying that before the this ugrade the K750i was not a great phone in my opinion. Now with these improvements the phone is definatley worth buying.
I dont know what you interpreted that as! Seems simple to me.
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Posted by REO
@korbindallis Just some feedback.... when posting detailed info, please break with paragraphs. It's easier on the eyes.
Just an observation here to all, hence why I don't run out an purchase at launch time. Plus, I can almost bet that the next S series will have a 3 MP.
Posted by Skrue
and i was opting to get the k750i at the 2nd week of june. now, i haveta wait longer...shucks....
Posted by sunnychad
Mine arrived today...
Oh well...guess it will have to go wrong at some stage in September and the replacement will be CCD. Not that I am buying the phone for the camera
Posted by goldenface
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Now now! Don't you be dropping your phone into a glass of Cola just to get a better camera
Posted by Quoth
So, do you think will these features be included in the W800 when it's launched?
Posted by (An)Dante
I believe that the 3G version of the K750 will be available soon..
Posted by Arne Anka
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Not until 2006 (possibly autumn 2006).
Posted by etaab
So, if it is Russia only, its the same thing Motorola have done with the V3 in Korea, slightly changed and improved the phone.
Posted by jeko.uk
are se gonna update the W800i aswell
Posted by prachid
There are many big questions about this news:
firstly, by the time that the new version of K 750 is for sale, a big price
drop has occurred. Will the improvement restore the price to the newly launched one ?
seconly, the news does not say anything whether the improvement will
cover the yet to be launched W800 or not.
So more insights are needed.
Posted by Connect
I can't believe this! I am waiting for the K550i for months now, as the direct rival CX75 was presented in early spring.
Now, not only there is no trace of the K550i, but instead of focusing on the middle segment, they go on and already talk about upgrading the K750i.
So this is going to be like T610/T630, but instead of the screen it will be the camera. Wonder if they will change the design.
Oh, and
please give us the K550i! Actually i'd be satisfied just to know that it's on the way or a few info about the specs. I can wait a few months IF they will use that time to make it a better phone. 
Posted by boyetraul
for those improvement that they will do in k750 its better to buy that unit end of july and so the w800 will come nearly that time
Posted by Residentevil
Well if you are buying the K750 for the camera, then you should wait.
Posted by korbindallis
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sorry was in such a hurry of getting the thing translated that i posted it first and then read it of my post
lol
Posted by Someone1018
How much better would the camera be when they change it in terms of picture quality?
Posted by vivek_h
is it really worth waiting for about 3 whole months, maybe even more, for a ccd sensor?
isnt the cmos sensor good enough?
didn't the s700 come with a ccd sensor? this k750i takes better quality pics than that.
first se makes us wait so long for the k750i, now before its already released everywhere around the globe, they plan a better camera for the same phone. what are they upto?
Posted by (An)Dante
You'll need to wait almost 6 month if a CCD version is desired..
Only the manufacturing will start in august so the retails will have the CMOS version for a long time! According to Eldar one will need to wait till X-mas to get it!
Posted by ThreeX
Jeez.. everyone has been ooh-ing and wow-ing the K750 in it´s original spec, now will you diss it because SE is improving (?) the camera? Who cares anyway, by christmas there will be new models out to rival or excel the K750 regardless of sensor type anyway. I´d say - if you like the K750, go get one! You can wait to dooms day and there will always be a better one at the horizon!
You should be glad you´re not a Nokia fanboy. I really pity the poor sods who bought 6630 just to come home with it and read all about the new 6680 which in turn barely had time for its paint to dry when wham, here we have N-series to really rub it in
Posted by etaab
Heh, yeah, i almost bought a 6630 a few months ago.
Well, if this new version of the K750i will only be available in Russia, what is everyone worrying about ?
Posted by red hot sheep
Even if this is only a small upgrade (like T610 to T630), it seems very strange. Most stores have only had this phone in now for a couple of days, and now SE are annoucing an upgrade? It seems a bit bizarre!
Posted by etaab
But according to the initial rumour, its not even an upgrade.
Posted by mmsman
i don't see this as an upgrade, i just see it as something se had been planning, I mean just changing the supplier of the camera module, they haven't even announced it!
i really think it's very foolish to wait for a ccd module, why does everyone think that ccd is so much better than cmos, i don't want to start a topic about ccd vs cmos but imho this is really getting out of hand, take a look at 6630 and s700, the picture quality is almost on the same level!
anyway my point is that se is only changing a small part that isn't going to do anything groundbreaking, it's not even like t630 and t610, i'm looking at the k750 thread and the pictures are awesome, imho very good for a 2mpx camera, do you sincerely think a ccd would make such a big difference? you can get a bad ccd and you can get a bad cmos, k750 apparently has a very good cmos sensor, even better then the ccd sensor in s700 and i'm not talking only about the 1.3 mpx to 2mpx gap.....
i doubt that se always used the same components for all phones, i mean just take a look at t610 w1 and a t610 w13 or something like that, the screen was better and some small changes, i remember when i first bought a p800 and i later on replaced it because it got broken, what a difference! they just change some things and for most things we don't even know, we only know this because m-r found it...
anyway i don't want to be rude or anything but for those that are about to wait, why would you do something like that? wait 6 months just to get a camera that isn't even 5% better? what's wrong with k750? do you just like the flashy "ccd" name? cmos seems old-fashioned or what, heck why don't i replace my canon d20 for a s700 because it has a ccd sensor? (ok over the top but I hope you get my point)actually if i was planning to buy a k750 i would prolly do it now because i would rather have a better battery life than a slightly better camera.....
anyway it's your choice but 2 things a for sure:
1. they are not going to change the name and it isn't really an upgrade, only a evolution in a normal life span of a model, just like any other one out there,
2. the camera won't be a lot better, maybe a little less noise in dark areas but i doubt most will even notice, actually i'm looking forward to the k750 pictures thread in september....
oh and just one more thing, i bet nobody would have noticed if se changed the lens and i bet it would make a bigger difference then the cccd sensor, i mean cmon, we still have plastics lenses and all you guys are thinking is about ccd and cmos, actually it kinda reminds me of the tfd and tft debates....
Posted by sailaab
Hmm.. BIG ruckus dis !Ppl falling over each oda.Any1 care to ellab'rte:# (minor?) pts. lke btr batt. funcWhats da great diff bet. da s700 n k750 wrt camera, form factor, bein available# do all doz 'waiting' for initial / revised 750 onky wish to churn out Biblical Bandwidth hogging sermons in da mean time# I mean Money apart wat IS the pt. Man just take wat is best suited rite now n keep changing as n wen -if u ve deep pockets# and yeah be happy SE aint churning out regurg'tated model by da min
Posted by etaab
@ mmsman, you're right.
I pity anyone who is foolish enough to wait for such a silly update.
You never know, the ccd sensor might actually take slightly worse pictures than the cmos sensor the current K750i uses. SE might even be doing this not to improve picture quality, but to reduce production costs using a cheap ccd sensor.. ?
Posted by sailaab
1... 2... 3... 4 mega pixelWat r we.. Forgetin da PC processor saga's here ?.....I mean, aint it OLD news abt a Samsung wid 5 MegaPix ?.....Cribing n Cursin shld b replaced wid; . . . . .Take a Decision And make it happen ! rite ?
Posted by etaab
@ sailaab, but they arent increasing the camera resolution at all..
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well i think you took me a little too seriously, it's certainly going to take better pictures but i'm very sceptic about how much better it's going to be, and the comment about production costs was a little off mate, i never meant it in a way like that, it's just that if a company has a contract with its supplier they are going to take what they have, it's clearly stated tht there wasn't a ccd sensor of that size when they first designed k750 and i actually think that the cmos price at this point is the same or even higher then the ccd price 6 months later, sure cmos will be even cheaper but that was not my point at all, i just wanted to say two things and that's :
1. EVERY phone from se had it's minor changes over it's life and imho some were imho better than this one and there was no fuss at all...
2. the picture quality IS going to be better BUT not much, even eldar stated that the difference is probably going to be hidden from most people......
i just don't understand what all the fuss is about because k750 already makes better pictures and imho isn't it then better to wait for w800 that offers an extra 512 mb card next to a new ccd sensor
anyway i'm not going to argue about it anymore, i know that i'm going to buy it the moment it gets here because the camera quality is already superb!
Posted by numb
I fully agree with both mmsman and etaab
one thing Id like to comment though
#mmsman, we cannot say for sure that quality definately will be better, first off Eldar hasnt seen any live pictures to compare with yet, the improvements mentioned are only "expected improvements" said by the company. Secondly the expected improvements mentioned are in specifik areas, you could theoretically have degration of quality in other areas of the photos that are just not mentioned. CCD isnt better than CMOS in every area and S//E are still keeping CMOS in their higher end upcoming 3mp cameras, which should indicate that there are actually good reasons for using cmos. The "announcement" also mentions some downsides to doing this switch such as poorer batterytime and longer savingtimes which may prove to be a bigger downside than the supposed qualityincrease is worth.
When I read between the lines of the "announcement" I actually find it much more plausible that the main reason for doing this, is not to improve quality by a few percent. Its to big a step just for that. Especially seeing how well it performs allready, they coul easily live with this cam untill next model is announced, there really isnt any need for this switch to ccd from a quality point of view.
I find it more plausible that the reason for doing this is 2 things:
1: They got a much better deal from the supplier of the new ccd sensors than they have with the current supplier of the cmos sensors, which when producing millions of handsets could bring down overall production costs extensively. But they cannot announce publicly that they are switching to something else to save money, that would degrade the public opinion of the phone and hurt sales, ergo the qualityupgrade story.
2: Marketingstrategy, as we have seen in these forums almost everyone thinks that CCD is automatically allways better than CMOS in every situation, therefore being able to write CCD in all marketingmaterial for the phone could boost sales in competition with other cameramobiles like the N-series
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Posted by etaab
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Nah i didnt, i just agreed that its not all that important. Its not as if the majority of K750i owners would take notice of what sensor their K750i has anyway.
Its my opinion that only because they plan to switch sensors does not automatically mean better pictures. Its also my opinion that the CCD sensor will be cheaper for SE to manufacture into the phones, rather than SE wanting the improve the phone at all.
I'd bet money on when these new K750i's are released, we wont be able to tell the difference in quality of pictures taken with either of the sensors.
Posted by red hot sheep
@numb
Great post - makes perfect sense!
Now I'm going to order a K750i; and there's one definate advantage with this CMOS one - I can take piccies over summer!
Posted by mmsman
oh, sorry i guess i was a little out of my world at the time of postin, i agree with both etaab and numb,
@etaab, sorry i thought you were sarcastic because of the smilie, anyway to be honest i don't know anything about ccd and cmos prices.... i would probably say that cmos would still be ceaper because it was out first but then again why would se change it then? they probably got a better contract or something,
although i am still sure that the ccd will be better, maybe just a little as i said before or at least the same as i believe, but i certainly don't think that it's going to be worse because i doubt se would do that to us....
yes the article says that high class phones will have cmos chips but i understand that as new cmos chips (3mpx)
and considering i own a d20 and before that a d300 which both had a cmos chip i know perfectly good that cmos can be even better than ccd if it's correctly done....
my 2 cents are (sheesh after two long posts) that i strongly suggest buying a k750 now as the upgrade is surely going to be neglectable (maybe a better dark picture but i doubt even that), or if you have time to spent then wait for w800 and you'll get a 512 mb card
Posted by bico
By searching for CMOS vs CCD by using Google Search you can find some quite useful information. A brief summary follows.
CMOS vs CCD and the Future of Imaging (Kodak Research) by Kodak
- Both CMOS and CCD imagers are manufactured in a silicon foundry
- Developed in the 1970s and 1980s specifically for imaging applications, CCD technology and fabrication processes were optimized for the best possible optical properties and image quality. The technology continues to improve and is still the choice in applications where image quality is the primary requirement or market share factor.
- This (the CCD) architecture produces a low-noise, high-performance imager. That optimization, however, makes integrating other electronics onto the silicon impractical. In addition, operating the CCD requires application of several clock signals, clock levels, and bias voltages, complicating system integration and increasing power consumption, overall system size, and cost.
- A CMOS imager, on the other hand, is made with standard silicon processes in high-volume foundries. Peripheral electronics, such as digital logic, clock drivers, or analog-to-digital converters, can be readily integrated with the same fabrication process.
- This architecture allows the signals from the entire array, from subsections, or even from a single pixel to be readout by a simple X-Y addressing technique—something a CCD can’t do.
- The biggest opportunities for CMOS sensors lie in new product categories for which they are uniquely suited. Keys to their success are
- Lower power usage
- Integration of additional circuitry on-chip
- Lower system cost
Such features make CMOS sensors ideal for mobile, multifunction products ... - Lower power usage
- CCDs have been mass-produced for over 25 years whereas CMOS technology has only just begun the mass production phase. Rapid adoption was also hindered because some early implementations of these devices were disappointing: they delivered poor imaging performance and poor image quality.
- ... the current sensor market divides itself into two areas: the high-performance, low-volume branch, and the low-cost, high-volume branch. In the high-performance branch are applications that will continue to be dominated by CCD technology, but CMOS technology will find market share too, especially for lower cost or more portable versions of these products. The second area is where most of the CMOS activity will be. Here, in many applications CCD sensors will be replaced with CMOS sensors. These could include some security applications, biometrics and most consumer digital cameras.
- Most of the growth, though, will likely come from products that can employ imaging technology—automotive, computer video, optical mice, imaging phones, toys, bar code readers and a host of hybrid products that can now include imaging. These kinds of products will require millions of CMOS sensors.
CCD vs. CMOS by Dalsa
- CCD (charge coupled device)
- CMOS (complementary metal oxide semiconductor)
- CCDs and CMOS imagers have unique strengths and weaknesses that make them appropriate to different applications. Neither is categorically superior to the other ...
- In a CCD sensor, every pixel's charge is transferred through a very limited number (often one) of output nodes to be converted to voltage, buffered, and sent off-chip as an analog signal. All of the pixel can be devoted to light capture, and the output's uniformity (a key factor in image quality) is high.
- In a CMOS sensor, each pixel has its own charge-to-voltage conversion, and the sensor often also includes digitization circuits, so that the chip outputs digital bits. These other functions reduce the area available for light capture, and with each pixel doing its own conversion, uniformity is lower. But the chip requires less off-chip circuitry for basic operation.
- CCDs have been the dominant solid-state imagers since the 1970s, primarily because CCDs gave far superior images with the fabrication technology available.
- Only recently has semiconductor fabrication advanced to the point that CMOS image sensors can be useful and cost-effective in some mid-performance imaging applications.
- CCDs offer superior image performance (as measured in quantum efficiency and noise), and flexibility at the expense of system size. They continue to rule in the applications that demand the highest image quality, such as most industrial, scientific, and medical applications.
- CMOS imagers offer more integration (more functions on the chip), lower power dissipation (at the chip level), and smaller system size at the expense of image quality and flexibility. They are well-suited to high-volume, space-constrained applications where image quality is not paramount, such as security cameras, PC peripherals, toys, fax machines, and some automotive applications.
- CMOS cameras may require fewer components and less power, but they may also require post-processing circuits to compensate for the lower image quality.
- The money and attention concentrated on CMOS imagers means that their performance will continue to improve, eventually blurring the line between CCD and CMOS image quality.
- ... for the forseeable future, CCDs and CMOS will remain complementary. Each can provide benefits that the other cannot.
Feature and Performance Comparison
| Feature | CCD | CMOS |
| Signal out of pixel | Electron packet | Voltage |
| Signal out of chip | Voltage (analog) | Bits (digital) |
| Signal out of camera | Bits (digital) | Bits (digital) |
| Fill factor | High | Moderate |
| Amplifier mismatch | N/A | Moderate |
| System Noise | Low | Moderate to High |
| System Complexity | High | Low |
| Sensor Complexity | Low | High |
| Camera components | PCB + multiple chips + lens | Chip + lens |
| Relative R&D cost | Depends on Application | Depends on Application |
| Relative system cost | Depends on Application | Depends on Application |
| Performance | CCD | CMOS |
| Responsivity | Moderate | Slightly better |
| Dynamic Range | High | Moderate |
| Uniformity | High | Low to Moderate |
| Uniform Shuttering | Fast, common | Poor |
| Uniformity | High | Low to Moderate |
| Speed | Moderate to High | Higher |
| Windowing | Limited | Extensive |
| Antiblooming | High to none | High |
| Biasing and Clocking | Multiple, higher voltage | Single, low-voltage |
Digital Camera Sensor Technology: CMOS vs. CCD by ExtremeTech
- All CCD cameras use interpolation to create images. For example, a 3 megapixel digital camera only has 750,000 red, 750,000 blue, and 1.5 million green pixels, but the camera's on-board processor generates a 3 million pixel RGB color image by interpolating the data from each neighboring pixel.
- CMOS sensors have several advantages over CCDs. They use only 1/5 to 1/10 as much power as CCDs, making them a good choice for battery-powered cameras. CMOS sensors are made using the same techniques and equipment as more familiar CMOS circuits like CPUs and RAM memory, so they cost less to produce than CCDs, which require specialized fabrication equipment.
- Each pixel in a CMOS sensor has its own amplifier circuit, so the signal amplification is performed before the image is scanned.
- ... CMOS sensors often contain additional image processing circuitry (including analog-to-digital converters and JPEG compression processors) directly on the chip, making it easier and faster to retrieve and process the picture information. This results in a lower chip count, increased reliability, reduced power consumption, and a more compact design.
- A key problem in older CMOS sensors was that some pixels often had more or less sensitivity than their neighbors. This unevenness translates into noise.
Image Sensor Technology: CMOS vs. CCD by Hewlett Packard
- ... CMOS components are fabricated in mainstream silicon foundries, resulting in significant cost reductions, process line improvements, and a higher level of circuit integration on the chip.
This on-chip circuitry enables CMOS image sensors to achieve a significant advantage in functionality over CCDs. The result? A more compact system that decreases defects, increases reliability and reduces the need for peripheral support chip packaging and assembly, further reducing cost. - Stated simply, CMOS sensors consume much less power than that of similar CCD sensors—at least 10 times less, in fact. This advantage is particularly important for applications such as digital cameras, PC videocameras, laptop computers, cellular phones and toys.
- Unlike CMOS components, CCD systems require multiple 5-15 V power supply levels and voltage regulators for operation. CMOS typically uses a single, 3.3 volt (or 5 volt supply), increasing power supply efficiency.
- With CMOS, signal processing can be integrated directly on the chip.
- Higher yields and less susceptibility to defects make CMOS a lower cost technology than CCD for image sensors. Fewer parts, a smaller form factor, and higher reliability in the end product system mean cost savings to the systems manufacturer.
- CCDs rely on a process that can leak charge to adjacent pixels when the CCD register overflows; thus bright lights “bloom” and cause unwanted streaks in the image. CMOS architecture is inherently less sensitive to this effect.
- In addition, smear—caused by charge transfer in the CCD under illumination—is non-existent with CMOS.
The choice between CMOS- and CCD-circuitry is obviously neither black nor white.
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Posted by Someone1018
Very helpful and interesting read. thanks bico
Posted by Marcus_129
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I can´t see that´s it anything wrong with me. Only get so sick and tired of you negative people. Don´t know what you get out of complaining on everything?
K750 is a great phone as it is and when the update service gets up it will become even better. Even if there´s a update in hardware coming the K750 isn´t a bad phone. And many of you complaining that it´s coming a update were complaining that it took too long with a successor from K700
Posted by K750i
@bico,
interesting info there...but the conclusion is what? CCD or CMOS? which one is the better one? or is it no definite answer to it?
Posted by aydahm
The comparison thread is really good and informative, but what we should really know is what difference will it make in a 2MP phone? In other words, for the K750, in what conditions will each system have an advantage or disadvantage?
Posted by bico
@K750i: Which technology is the better one? The definite answer is that it's certainly not definite. Both technologies has its pros and cons.
My personal conclusion is that it doesn't really matter that much. The camera in the K750i phone is more than good enough. Especially considering it's a phone with a built in camera, not a camera with a builtin phone.
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