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Posted by SE7
Hey all,


Where is COMTRAK these days?havent seen much of him during past week, in fact, after posting breaking news about Waridtel he is out of the scene and sight of all of us!!

Comtrak, if u read this, then plz reply and let me know the status of the new technology being adopted by Waridtel as u told us earlier.

Note:

Yesterday, i bought a brandnew K750i from MZ. its indeed a gr8 set and anybody wana upgrade his set must consider it.

Here is my history of mobile sets which i have used so far:

Mitubishi trium (my first set, only lasted for few days though!!)
Nokia 3310
Nokia 6310
Nokia 8310
Siemens C55
Siemens M55
Samsung X100
SE T630
SE K700i*
SE K750i*


* in use right now.


Please let me know what sets u guys have used so far.


Posted by sibtainali
Salam!

SE7... Here is my history of mobile sets which i have used so far:

Motorola Star Tech
Nokia 282
Nokia 3210
Nokia 3310
Nokia 6210
Nokia 6310
Nokia 7250i
Nokia 6310i
Nokia 7650
SE T630
Nokia 6600
Nokia 7610
Imate SP3*

* right now

[ This Message was edited by: sibtainali on 2005-06-16 12:57 ]

Posted by umerhayat
Hi every one. The sets i personally bought and used are nokia3310 ,samsung x600, nokia6610i , now nokia 6600. But there are many sets that i tried on exchange basis for few days with my friends lol. They are nokia 7650 , 3650 , 3220 , Sony ericsson t230 , k700i and many others that i do not remember right now. Regards. Umer.

Posted by SE7
@sibtainali, plz tell me how is the performance of SP3? have u used SP3i? is it worth to go for SP3i? having considered that u have used SE T630, how would u compare the user interface of imate with SE? coz i am using SE for a while now and liking it, its very user friendly and they are making it more as they are releasing new models.

I have this habit of buying the sets when they are released (cant control myself, lolz) thats y i make lot of loss when i go to dispose them off!! except for 6310 i bought all sets when they were lauched in Pakistan. plz share with us your experience and practice!!!


Posted by sibtainali
Salam!

SE7 SP3 and SP3i are same except windows media player.... SP3=windows media player9...and SP3i=windows media player10........(as per my knowledge).....you can check their specifications on NET. and the user interface of imate is little bit difficult but not a big problem... but the best thing is that it's very very light and very very good battery timing....but one thing purchase with full accessories....OR pin pack.....and one thing more it's a unique set in pakistani market that make me proud when i use it, even in ISLAMABAD.....

GOD bless you all

Posted by comtrak
Quote:

On 2005-06-11 20:43:18, SE7 wrote:
@Comtrak,keep it cool, i concede that i read it wrong and apolize to u! However, as per my naive knowledge there r only four frequency bands which are being used by GSM companies around the globe, that is why u might have seen that new phones are Quad-band (GSM 850/900/1800/1900), this means 850 MHZ, 1900 MHZ etc.In fact for ur knowledge these frequencies are allocated by the Government under licence to the cellular companies! Most interestingly, non of these frequencies is 3.5 MHZ or 3.5 GHZ! Are u dead sure that what u wrote is true by any chance??????

Coming to our discussion, if Warid is in Pakistan introducing 3.5 GHZ/ 3.5 MHZ then it must be a revolution in the telecom industry in the world and it will be a big achievement, lolz, and this is highly unlikely! my mind doesnt accept that!

Anybody else wana express his/her comments on this? Anyone having more technical info might correct me if i am wrong!!


[ This Message was edited by: SE7 on 2005-06-11 20:56 ]

[ This Message was edited by: SE7 on 2005-06-11 21:03 ]



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Salamz all yar howz life with all dude i was talking about 3.5 MHz is the data speed and the (GSM 850/900/1800/1900) is the operating band of the mobiles operaters.. will b regular shortly INSHAhAllah

Posted by SE7
@Comtrak, buddy again u are mistaken for sure,as 3.5 MHZ cant be the data transfer speed, the reason is MHZ stands for mega hertz, and MHZ represents the frequency not data speed!!

Now u got me finally??? data speed is based in bits or bytes per second can be megabit per second or anything, can never ever be represented in MHZ!!!

I hope others will agree to my point.

Posted by umerhayat
Hi guys. Seems mobile companies have no plans in near future to reduce the call rates more or announce some new packages. Paktel is increasing its rates. Prepaid paktel blue which had 0.99 rupee rate after 12 is no more available. Now paktel white has come which is 3.75 flat 24 hours. On paktel post paid late night option LNO is not available any more. So whats going on i do not know. Why govt of pakistan give one two licences every time. Why they not just fix some licence fee so as many companies want to operate pay that fee and start there net work. These present companies want to squeeze every penny out of us. In india 100 to 250 rupees unlimited gprs is available. Also heard that call rates on some companies are as low as 40 pasa per minute. But not sure about call rate . Regards. Umer

Posted by SE7
Umer,rates reduction is in pipeline for mobilink,telenor,and warid. Their relaunch is only 2 months away thats what i was told so i m sharing with u.i dont have any further details about tariffs

Posted by sibtainali
Salam! people bad news, if its true that agile messenger is not free now. if any one knows any thing about this please tell us. God bless you all

Posted by umerhayat
hi guys. some time ago i was signed on agile messenger. it is working ok. i have not listened from any where that its going to be not free. from where you listen this news. i think nothing such things is on the agile messenger site www.agilemobile.com also.
but if some such thing is happening
then hope some one infrom us soon about it
regards
umer

Posted by sibtainali
Salam! Umerhayat, my friends downloaded new messenger for 6680, 7650, and 6600 and after downloading and installing the agile they got the message that its 7 days trial version so you have to purchase it after this trial and you have to pay 2$ for registering the agile(they told me). and they also told me that you will not find any thing on website about this money shi..

[ This Message was edited by: sibtainali on 2005-06-18 20:02 ]

[ This Message was edited by: sibtainali on 2005-06-19 04:50 ]

Posted by sibtainali
Salam! people if you get any news on agile's new policy for registering the product so please inform us. and if its not not true please correct me. GOD bless you all

Posted by SE7
@Comtrak, where are u???? this tread is not alive without ur innovative ideas and breaking news!!!!! Join us soon

Posted by umerhayat
Hope warid soon fix the signal problem thing that we discussed already in this forum as i am still facing it and also stop charging us 50 rupees per month for the gprs activation and also make packet size charges different as they are this time 3 rupees per 200kb which make it too much expensive after micro calculations. So that we use there service as my sim is idle after the few days use and some times i check it but when problems specially signal problem is there i put it out again. Regards. Umer

Posted by radarblip609
Sorry that I dont remember it, but when does a warid connection expire?

As ptcl(or someone else) started the unexpiring connection thing.

Posted by SE7
@umerhayat, a friend of mine also had the same signal problem which u have faced, in this regard a salesman from warid visited him and told that the problem has been fixed atleast in islamabad. Earlier that same person said that engineering department of warid will fix it latest by monday. when he checked the warid's sim, it was working alright and was also able to detect other mobile networks' signals also.

But waridsales man told us that this problem is only with SE handsets and 2-3 models of nokia only, rest are working fine with warid's SIM! can u confirm this? if any of ur friends or relatives are having this problem then let us know about it, i wana verify his views (warid's saleman's)

@radarblip609, I think expiry of connection is one year!

[ This Message was edited by: SE7 on 2005-06-19 19:14 ]

Posted by comtrak
@ All
Salamz ...
Problem is a part in the way of perfection. every1 and everything have problem lests c when yr prob get done well i was a bit busy @ my job so i didnt reply to u all.... about warid's GPRS thing i also agree they should wave out the 50RS per month but as u also know they r charging less 4 sms and the international zone 1 so they ahve the right to cover it up a bit i think..

Eitsalat has arrived in Pakistan i also have a thread for tht so any1 get a chance to know any newz abt it post it in tht thread.. Thanx

Posted by umerhayat
@Radarblip. Warid validity is one year. Telenor validity is up till 2010. Paktel validity increase for 60 day from the time of last out going call. So all three are doing good in this field. But telenor is winner@ Se7. Yes it seems that the problem of signal may be with some sets and not with other sets. But this time i can not confirm it as people are not buying warid. But i try to check it on some other sets and then tell you my observations. @Se7. Yes telenor launch was success because after long time one more company was coming and we were excited. There service is also good. But they need to give off peak rates and low on net work rates or this company will be doomed soon. As i am back to u phone because of off peak u to u after 10 and 3 rupee call at day time to u and ptcl so this time it seems best for me. Regards. Umer

Posted by umerhayat
@SE7. Last night. I try warid. When i insert the sim and turn on my phone then the signal was there, as it happens on other networks, means i did not had to dial the 321 again and again and try to some manual search or some thing. So seems that now warid has solved the signal problem. At least on 6600 it was ok last time. But i will not use their sim until they cut off the 50 rupees for gprs per month and also reduce the data packet size rate or give some flat package of gprs rate. Lol lol. May be give free gprs. Lol . Regards. Umer

Posted by sibtainali
Salam Umerhayat i dont think that warid will give flat rates for gprs. if they do so i will change my service provides from UFONE to warid. Telenor is coming to Abbottabad before 20th july 2005 (as per my knowledge) and they will install more than 300 boasters from HassanAbdal to Abbottabad (dont know thats true or ....) God bless you all.

Posted by SE7
Quote:

On 2005-06-21 09:58:25, umerhayat wrote:
@SE7. Last night. I try warid. When i insert the sim and turn on my phone then the signal was there, as it happens on other networks, means i did not had to dial the 321 again and again and try to some manual search or some thing. So seems that now warid has solved the signal problem. At least on 6600 it was ok last time. But i will not use their sim until they cut off the 50 rupees for gprs per month and also reduce the data packet size rate or give some flat package of gprs rate. Lol lol. May be give free gprs. Lol . Regards. Umer




@umerhayat, thats a good news for all of us that at last warid is able to fix this big problem that they were having. Umer, what do u think is better of the two, i.e. telenor and warid?? coz i am in a fix now, i am using post-paid package of telenor but its rates are more than what warid is charging. I also would like to add here that i dont travel much, therefore, coverage is not a problem for me, i just need signals in Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad, so less coverage of telenor is not a problem for me.

Please advise me what to do now?should i stick with telenor and wait for reduction in rates or should i switch over to warid now and enjoy their low tariff. There is another option, i also have Ufone's pre-paid sim!!!


Any recommendations from others would also be appreciated.


[ This Message was edited by: SE7 on 2005-06-21 11:02 ]

Posted by radarblip609
@sibtainali: Yes Telenor is coming to Abottabad. It is expanding its network to many new cities. I saw it in a newspaper ad.

Dont know about the number of boosters though.

Posted by sibtainali
Salam @SE7 if you are a heavy user of gprs then you should stick with Telenor, or if you only use phone, sms and mms then Warid is good for you. Thanks radarblip609 for informing me about Telenors add in news paper. God bless you all.

[ This Message was edited by: sibtainali on 2005-06-21 11:48 ]

Posted by SE7
Quote:

On 2005-06-21 12:46:00, sibtainali wrote:
Salam @SE7 if you are a heavy user of gprs then you should stick with Telenor, or if you only use phone, sms and mms then Warid is good for you.God bless you all.

[ This Message was edited by: sibtainali on 2005-06-21 11:48 ]



W.Salam @sibtainali: yes i am an actually heavy user of GPRS! yesterday i took office my K700i with mobilink sim and i tell u what, when i received calls they could not hear me properly, the line was disconnected once and quality was pathetic. May be the reason that i got annoyed with MAY-BE-LINK is that i am using telenor since March, therefore, i think i have got used to the crystal clear voice , lolz, anyway, thanx for the response!

Posted by umerhayat
@SE7. Call rates of TELENOR are highest this time among three and gprs rates also same as ufone. On the other hand Warid voice is also very clear. But gprs rates high. Call rates are best this time but call rates real advantage can only be taken if your contacts are also using warid. Ufone voice quality on third place among the three. Gprs rates ok and if your contacts are on ptcl and ufone then its ok for you. I mean you have not to call much people or any people on other mobile net works especially on the mobilink as it has very huge number of users then you can use ufone. So its all very complex situation. No company launching some thing that perfectly suit us. All have one good thing and other bad thing. @sibtainali. Man as mobilink giving the fix gprs package although to post paid users only so i thought may be others also launch some thing like it. At end i will like to say one think about PAKTel its voice sucks. It has no gprs. So it completely sucks. Regards. Umer


Posted by comtrak
This is a test 1 through gprs

Posted by umerhayat
A guy who work in mobile market was telling me that sonyericsson not getting popularity in the pakistan because it do not work good with the mobilink. When we use sony ericsson sets with mobilink then there is lot of call drop and low signal and other such kind of problem. But thats what he says i am not sure about it. Hope others also share their observation especially people using sonyericsson with the mobilink. Regards . Umer

Posted by radarblip609
I pray Sony Ericsson doesnt get popularity in Pakistan.This will result in a price drop of SE sets and it will be the best thing happening to me being a SE lover.

Posted by comtrak
Salamz i think tht moblink works fine with SE when i used it with K508i and K700i... And i dont know abt the guy who told u but i read the reviews 60% of Nokia sale(Pakistan) is captured by SE as v all know its cheap and have everything... yr thoughts...?????

Posted by SE7
The reason that mobilink has problem is coz mobilink's own signals r very weak.however i m using different sets of SE for more than 2years without any prob with more than one year i used on jazz!

Posted by aainpak
Quote:

On 2005-06-22 16:50:37, SE7 wrote:
The reason that mobilink has problem is coz mobilink's own signals r very weak.however i m using different sets of SE for more than 2years without any prob with more than one year i used on jazz!




This message was posted from a WAP device




perhaps, MOBILINK signals are the best among the lot

[ This Message was edited by: aainpak on 2005-06-22 20:35 ]

Posted by SE7
Quote:

On 2005-06-22 21:32:47, aainpak wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-06-22 16:50:37, SE7 wrote:
The reason that mobilink has problem is coz mobilink's own signals r very weak.however i m using different sets of SE for more than 2years without any prob with more than one year i used on jazz!




This message was posted from a WAP device




perhaps, MOBILINK signals are the best among the lot

[ This Message was edited by: aainpak on 2005-06-22 20:35 ]



U must be kidding!!! do u know that when signals are good, the voice is crystal clear as well, which is not the case with Mobilink. By the way i am using its connection since 1998. U cant tell which is the best until and less u have given everybody a fair chance to prove!!

Posted by sibtainali
Salam!

@aainpak....ya you are right... MOBILINK signals are the best... but you dont get any call even under the mobilink tower:-P


GOD bless you all

[ This Message was edited by: sibtainali on 2005-06-23 10:46 ]

Posted by comtrak
@se7 man come on plz dont argue on Mobilink network yar others dont have 50% of it and about the signals which yr mobile show it dont make any diff in the crystal clear voice or anything like tht. Mobilink do have the best signal and network no doubt!!

Posted by SE7
Quote:

On 2005-06-23 22:02:18, comtrak wrote:
@se7 man come on plz dont argue on Mobilink network yar others dont have 50% of it and about the signals which yr mobile show it dont make any diff in the crystal clear voice or anything like tht. Mobilink do have the best signal and network no doubt!!



@Comtrak:

Its always better to read the posts carefully before making any comments! this is something which u dont care to do, and this what makes u biggest fool on earth. I think ur aim is to post wrong stuff on this forum and to mis-guide people who are using this forum to gain something useful to them and which can be of any help!! U have natural tendency to come up with a stupid thing/ idea/ info and when u are corrected u dont have the balls to accept, that yes u made a mistake.

Anyway, coming to ur post, read once again the previous quotes, u will realise urself, only if u can read/understand english properly, that it was not about MAY-BE-LINK's network, it was about the pathetic quality signals of mobilink , which is the reason that voice is not clear over Mobilink, that is why its said that quality matters not quantity. Now u got me? Nobody on this forum has ever disputed or casted doubt that it has a small network, it is a fact which no one can deny that Mobilink has the largest network (coverage of cities and towns) among the GSM companies operating in Pakistan. Even though i get few signals of Telenor on my SE handset compared to when i insert Mobilink's SIM, the voice quality is atleast 100 times better that what i get from Mobilink.

Nobody is stupid enough, like u, to count the number of signals appearing on the handset and form a opinion about how the quality of voice would be.

Now i request u humbly not to post stupid stuff here again. I would encourage u to post something positive or anything which can be useful to our members.



Posted by comtrak
hahahahahha @se7(a crying baby) joke only no offence yar bhai i was just trying to tell u tht the signal of strength tht yr mobile showz doesnt make any difference in voice clearness if u get less siglan or more signal it dont matter voice quality remains the same i m telling u this cause i know so and u tell things cause u think so. and read my post again its hard n pure english so i can understand tht u dont... hehehe kher bhai seriously i know it so i tell it, i m not like all tht i hear things and go oh tht coming i investigate. and if u dont agree then v can have a poll about the strength of signals anf companies of PK i will b creaating a thread. and abt the stuff i told u about warid just wait and then when it comes u will understand and dont take tht seriously cause every dumb guy thinks like u. the basic prob with u is tht u just dont wanna learn beyond yr limits so dude grow up i know u will b v angery after reading this post and i m sorry. i wont reply to yr post again cause i think my saying of anything offends u cause u dont like me..SORRY AGAIN YAR... v both r typically Paki u ans an insult then i asn the insult and v become happy with this kher SORRY AH

Posted by comtrak
i know man now its for yr ego so u wont give me any chance but remember v all r brothers which includes u too and i knew thing i shared but now i wont as no body wants to listen to it..

Posted by SE7
@comtrak: i dont get angry when i read ur past 2 posts coz i was expecting this from u!lols, so its no surprise for me.i dont want to comment further,i guess u r mature enough to understand my point and judge my intentions. Its up to u now, whatever u wan2 post,do it, atleast i wont remain indifferent!if u r sensible enough u should get now what i mean.

Posted by comtrak
hahaha i was hoping tht yr sences will com bak but ................ kher sorry yar i know i will post things but there prob is u dont like me thts y u became angry on my normal post hahahahhahahahahhaaaa som1 or somthing was burnin;) hehhehhehehe kher lets make a pact v wont fight if v dont agree with anything lest ask each other and then decide together only if u want ..

Posted by comtrak
i m waitin 4 yr reply man
take yr time with yr decision;)


Posted by SE7
@comtrak:Good to read ur usual stupid post! I have found that ur an interesting person. I would like to know what is ur profession?how u earn ur living? How was ur childhood spent?this would really help us in finding the real cause behind ur stubborn personality! Lets dig it out,lols. U can never learn a lesson,after all if stone is thrown at mud, the thrower suffers only! With u being Mud! Ur a misfit for this forum. So either stop talking shit or talk straight.

Posted by comtrak
hahahaha grow up i know u get angry when u see my normal post as u r vise versa... if u dont want to b friends fine.. So the latest is Etisalat will b waving charges of local calls and they will b provinding WARID with many facilities.. God knows whats next... yr comments

Posted by umerhayat
Hi friends. I am hit by a strange problem. Donot know if any one else facing it or not. When i use the ufone gprs then i am unable to open the esato. Browser keep on trying and trying and then message comes applicaton time out and esato do not open. Other sites i browse are ok and also agile messenger working ok. So i thought may be esato was down for update or some thing. But then i try telenor gprs and esato is open. Then i delete old ufone settings and down load again those settings and tried again but again same result. So i am shocked i tried every possible thing in my knowledge wasted about one hour on this matter but to no avail. Now i insert the telenor sim again using its gprs and posting here. Hope if some one can guess where problem is or facing same problem then inform me soon. Hope i find solution for it soon. @SE7 and @COMTRACK. Keep it cool my friends. we are all friends and we are just discussing things. Regards. Umer

Posted by srmz
umerhayat there definitely is some relation between what service provider you are on and some of the websites not opening.

I do not have experience of ufone but in my case when I am on Mobilink GPRS, I cannot open Hotmail. However when I install the Warid or Telenor SIM's I can easily browse Hotmail.

Although I have provided no solution to Umerhayat's problem but I thought to share a similar problem.

By the way I am on a I-Mate using the NetFront 3.2 internet browser.

Kind Regards
SRMZ

Posted by umerhayat
Hi guys. Last day in news papers i saw that warid looking for the franchise partners in many cities about 30 or more cities i think. So any one know when they will launch in those cities as my city daska is also in that list. @SRMZ . Yes man although not solved my problem but at least you also recognised and confirmed the problem. On ufone esato was always working ok. But now not working for me for some days. May be some problem in ufone network or may be some problem in my settings that i am unable to solve. But hope some one tell me the solution also very soon. Regards. Umer

Posted by sibtainali
Salam!

umerhayat...man i used my handheld device and the result was same like yours...thats connecting and connecting and conn.............and in last i got this "GATWAY TIME OUT".... so the problem is in UFONE..i think so....last night i talked to UFONE customer care center they said.... restart your device...and i toled him that i did it before talking to him.....he said: but we dont have any problem....UFONE SUCKs....
@ comtrac & SE7 be cool dont fight....

GOD bless you



Posted by umerhayat
Hi. Yes thats right. The problem is with ufone gprs. They upgraded .But this is the first upgrade that i saw in my life in which service started sucking. So now ufone which had the most reliable gprs also sucks. This upgrade sucks and they do not admit their fault. Their helpline people are so dumb that i never saw so much uninformed and dumb persons any where on earth. Regards. Umer

Posted by kamiron
i have made a small text webpage regarding the people wants to have a warid rates so please check it out and if you have any problem just drop me a mail
the address is
http://www.geocities.com/kamran1821/waridratelist.htm

Posted by radarblip609
Someone kindly put the details of the Ufone upgrade.

My phone is 'kharaab' so I am not experiencing Ufone much.


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