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K750 / W800 Firmware Overview

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Posted by staiano
@ theunknown04, they should have sorted out the GPRS issue not sure about the video/camera problems other people have been reporting. Problem is you can only flash to R1L via da vinci right now.


Posted by theunknown04
Quote:

On 2005-06-23 21:24:41, staiano wrote:
@ theunknown04, they should have sorted out the GPRS issue not sure about the video/camera problems other people have been reporting. Problem is you can only flash to R1L via da vinci right now.


not sounding silly but new to this thats why i never done the first firmware update but what is the via da vinci ??thank's

Posted by staiano
Quote:
On 2005-06-23 21:34:37, theunknown04 wrote:
not sounding silly but new to this thats why i never done the first firmware update but what is the via da vinci ??thank's

No problem. Da Vinci is a program to perform remote unlocking and flashing for SE phones. Check out their homepage http://www.davinciteam.com

Also if you check out their latest news (posted by flanonthenet earlier) you see the mention of the R1L002 firmware.

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[ This Message was edited by: staiano on 2005-06-23 20:44 ]

Posted by theunknown04
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On 2005-06-23 21:41:14, staiano wrote:
Quote:
On 2005-06-23 21:34:37, theunknown04 wrote:
not sounding silly but new to this thats why i never done the first firmware update but what is the via da vinci ??thank's

No problem. Da Vinci is a program to perform remote unlocking and flashing for SE phones. Check out their homepage http://www.davinciteam.com

Also if you check out their latest news (posted by flanonthenet earlier) you see the mention of the R1L002 firmware.

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[ This Message was edited by: staiano on 2005-06-23 20:44 ]

is it just as safe to use that as it is with the SE site??will it be long before it come's onto the SE site if it's on that already??i would have thought that it would have been on the main SE site first??is it easier on this site then the SE site to update the phone?sorry for all the question's..

Posted by staiano
I've never used Da Vinci b/c I always buy my phones already unlocked and this is the first phone (k750) I've flashed the firmware on myself. Plus Da Vinci isn't free. Lots of other people have used it though.

Posted by masseur
well I thought I might have a play and try davinci since I've not tried any of these since the days of terminator dongles

its all gone through fine and I have R1L002 but a couple of things to note

my CDA has changed although I still have EUROPE_3 with the same languages and also all contents of the phone were wiped which doesn't happen with SEUS

busy synching at the mo so will start taking a look at any changes I can spot later

Posted by theunknown04
Quote:

On 2005-06-23 22:05:01, masseur wrote:
well I thought I might have a play and try davinci since I've not tried any of these since the days of terminator dongles

its all gone through fine and I have R1L002 but a couple of things to note

my CDA has changed although I still have EUROPE_3 with the same languages and also all contents of the phone were wiped which doesn't happen with SEUS

busy synching at the mo so will start taking a look at any changes I can spot later


could you do a favour and check the picture's and the video frame rate as the new firmware that come out the other week seemed to have worse recording and camera for some strange reason...will this new firmware be avalible on the SE site soon??i thought they would have it first?busy synching how does that work and what does it do?tranfer thing's from pc?

[ This Message was edited by: theunknown04 on 2005-06-23 21:16 ]

Posted by Ja99iE
Just gone R1L here too, just gonna restore my phonebook and sms and then I'll have a play

Posted by tazmania
is there any1 who can answer if the quality of recorded movies is back to its normal levels ??? i.e. 190kbps?


Posted by numb
camera software is still version 4.4
therefore I doubt theres any changes in the camera department
this firmware propably only deals with the gprs problem.



Posted by masseur
yeah, I;m sure its still the same. I just tried a video and it was 60kBits/sec

Posted by theunknown04
how do you find out the speed of the recording then?thanks..

Posted by masseur
I use mpegable player and on the file menu there is a "movie info" option which gives all the details

Posted by Ibinco
So is Se offering this firmware already through SEUS? I dont understand how davinci can be offering this firmware.

Posted by Ja99iE
I can confirm that the problem with O2 gprs on R1J has been fixed with R1L.

Posted by CyberVisitor
@all

Before you all go and flash your phones with this firmware at DaVinci, please write down all info from the phone that is possible to change in the "CDA" tab of the client. Then enter all that info manually into the fields of this tab and check "Use This Settings for Finalization". If you do, then it's possible to keep using SEUS afterwards. Also add an "i" after K750 in the same tab. If you need to leave your phone for service (during warranty) then it's harder for the service center to see that you have flashed your phone using this service.

@masseur

You lost all your info because DaVinci doesn't actually update the firmware - it reflashes the phone from scratch!

Question: Is the "PlayNow" icon still there after flashing with R1L (EU4 is not available, so I can't flash myself with this revision)?

Posted by xadox
when will R1L be availible on www.sonyericsson.com? i live in Norway and have this silly GPRS/MMS problem...

Posted by Sebby
No one knows. Hopefully in the next couple of days.

Posted by xadox
it's a pain in the A** not to have GPRS/MMS

Posted by Ja99iE
@CyberVisitor, no play now icon on EU_2 as with earlier versions, unsure about other variants.

Posted by zzzbye
i have the same problem with the lousier video recording quality too. is there any way to revert back to its former quality????

Posted by mvinodkuumarr
@zzzbye

May be give your phone to SE service center if you are on warranty they may help you regarding this



Posted by masseur
Quote:

On 2005-06-24 00:19:42, CyberVisitor wrote:
@masseur

You lost all your info because DaVinci doesn't actually update the firmware - it reflashes the phone from scratch!

Question: Is the "PlayNow" icon still there after flashing with R1L (EU4 is not available, so I can't flash myself with this revision)?



thanks for posting the tip because I am sure others will fall into this little trap

fortunately, just after I posted, I remembered seeing that CDA tab in the flashing utility so went back and guessed that was the problem so reflashed again with the correct values and all was well. unfortuately the davinci K750 flashing manual (if you can call it that) didnt mention this.

still, I'm glad to have tried it just for the experience

mine lost the playnow icon too and now just says homepage for the first icon

Posted by riffola
@masseur
I went from EU_3 to EU_2 and PlayNow™ is replaced by the homepage shortcut, which I promptly changed to Esato, "Call Voicemail" is now replaced by "My Friends" in Messaging, the camera makes no sound in silent mode.

Posted by masseur
I noticed mine no longer has camera sound in silent mode but didn't notice the change to "my friends" though, like play now, I never use that either...

Posted by mvinodkuumarr
I got my handset replaced by SE just a while ago which has old R1A version and has not found any errors so far as of now..

Video recording is at 120 kbps
at 10fps


THank god!




Posted by rickp101
Apologies if this has been mentioned in this thread earlier but I have only read first few pages and last few pages.

I have just received an O2 K750i after a 2 week wait while they get their new stock in, only to find it has frozen on me twice in first day (alarm didnt go off this morning so I was late for work because of it!).

Reading this thread I have found I have original firmware so rang SE to see if the latest firmware on their website would fix this and was told that the fix will be released in the next week or two but they are taking people's names and email addresses and will contact us when it is ready.

Posted by mwarner
Added R1L002 to the first post. If any user with R1L could provide JBenchmark results i'll add them to the post.

[ This Message was edited by: mwarner on 2005-06-24 10:01 ]

Posted by masseur
much the same really

- Jbenchmark1: 3880
- Jbemchmark2: 335
- JBenchmark 3D LQ - approx 201
- JBenchmark 3D HQ - approx 121


Posted by mwarner
Thanks Masseur!

Posted by n3x
can anyone tell me if the email contacts "no name" problem is gone now? and are there any other improvements besides the gprs prob??

Posted by masseur
there is still a problem with some contacts showing as "no name"

these are ones that don't have the "full name" field in out looked filled.

for me this means ones where I have filled the company name only and didnt fill the "full name" field even though the "file as" field has a value

I usually just go through and set the "full name" field to be the same as the company name field if I don't have a personal name to attach to the company and that solves the problem

Posted by FerrisT610
have updated to R1L002, phone now seems a little slower than the previous firmware. anyone notice this too?

Posted by maggisam
Can anyone explaine in detail how the CDA function in Davinci works. and if I dont use it can I be excluded from SE updates.

I just reflashed my girlfreinds EU-4 phone to China-Thai version. will I have problems later on with SE???

maggisam

Posted by Brady
Why can't they just give us camera revision 3.8, which had good quality, with the R1L firmware?

Doesn't that make more sense??

Posted by O2 K750i
Phoned SE this AM

SE havent heard anything about R1L - no new firmware is available. He also said SE will be first to get it. So I asked why Da Vinci have it already. Guess what...

Reported Video degrade. SE havent heard of that either.

Suggested SE look at Esato pages. Hadn't heard of Esato...

Duh



Posted by masseur
I've been saying this for ages... they just don't have a clue (or pretend not to have a clue)

Posted by Lazar
C'mon ppl... don't you know how it work?
Do you expect every SE employee to be aware of everything that's going on? Ppl that work at client's support don't know "anything" about what the devloppers/engineers are doing most of the time.
Very often, when I call a support, I know much more about the product than the guy I'm talking to and who's supposed to help me...

Of course SE are aware of the problems and are trying to fix it asap!!!


[ This Message was edited by: Lazar on 2005-06-24 14:01 ]

Posted by xadox
we can only wait... i don't think ill use davinci to fix my gprs/mms problem...

Posted by TheWhizz_68
Why doesn't the latest fw screw up all k750i sim free unbranded models though with 02 mms/gprs ?
I have 4 x k750i here all with the same firmware and all sim free models ,two work fine with 02 mms and gprs and the other two just won't work?

2 x that don't work are week 22 & 23
2 x that work are week 20 and 24

Very strange ?



Posted by k0rrupter
is it me or i can't update my FW on SE site?

[The latest Firmware on SEUS is R1J002 (currently blocked).] - was mentioned in the first msg. :|

any ideaS?

Posted by numb
eh, yes I got an idea

Wait till its nolonger blocked, and the new firmware gets online.




Posted by O2 K750i
O2 replacement handset received today

Week 20 phone with R1A044. Still at least the GPRS / MMS work

I'm going to wait until FW released then watch for comments here

Then I'll wait a while to let things settle down before updating R1A as I wish I had never bothered. At least the FW crash had a work around.




Posted by Hightowermark
Hi i got my new phone yesterday and it's the R1A044 o2 Uk

And the only issue so far is that it freezes when i play the picture game and only when i try and take a picture to mix up. The screen goes white and can do nothing for 1/2 mins.

I've read a few pages here but havent come across this, has anyone else had this problem?

Also is this the latest Sw?

Posted by flanonthenet
Been playing around with R1L002 for a day now. I can't find any improvements or changes beyond a patch for the GPRS issue introduced in R1J (which didn't affect me anyway).

I'm still glad I used Da Vinci as I've now unbranded my handset and changed the CDA so it'll work with SEUS in future without rebranding.

However, I wouldn't recommend that anyone with R1A updates at all unless they have the standby-freeze bug. There are no real advantages in doing so and in fact, your video recording quality will suffer.

What I'm really hoping for is a much improved Bluetooth implementation in the next firmware - it's still a bit flaky with certain headsets and car kits.

In short, if you've got R1A and do not have the standby freeze, you're probably best not updating just yet.

Posted by O2 K750i
Quote:

On 2005-06-24 20:40:58, flanonthenet wrote:

In short, if you've got R1A and do not have the standby freeze, you're probably best not updating just yet.



Yep - youve got my vote. R1A is not perfect but hey it is much better than R1J.

Leave it alone for a few months for things to settle down.

But here is the rub...why are O2 picking up the tab for the SEUS update which has mucked up the phone? - I mean my replacement handset has cost O2 as will the return postage for the R1J unit. Why oh why cannot SE see sense and allow us to flash back to R1A?



[ This Message was edited by: O2 K750i on 2005-06-24 21:34 ]

Posted by Ja99iE
I experienced my first crash last night, with the firmware R1L, having had R1J and R1A previous to that. It was nothing major, just as I was exiting the media player the screen went white, then off for a couple of seconds, then white, then off for a couple of seconds, then white, then off for a couple of seconds and then settled on the main screen, displaying "Emerg. calls only" before picking up a signal again.

No problems since and gprs works again so no complaints really, but R1A was working just fine for me, but at least I have got rid of the O2 customisations.

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Posted by rambalu80
I have R1J and experienced something similar, but my phone turned off finally by itself. I am still experiencing problems with the puzzle game. I may have to get R1L soon!

Posted by private
Updated my f/w to R1J, but still not yet satisfied with media player volume. it's still low. everything else is fine. standby crash has gone. Gprs works fine.

Posted by quaeler
Quote:

I have 4 x k750i here all with the same firmware and all sim free models ,two work fine with 02 mms and gprs and the other two just won't work?

Very strange ?



after combatively speaking with se service representatives, the (barely plausible) claim they made to me is that there is actually hardware differences in the phones between markets - meaning (they claim) that even if you have the same firmware subtype (like EU_1_CL) for which there is a firmware update, you still might have a phone that's not suitable for the firmware.

on one hand, i feel that it seems unlikely that there'd be different hardware for a specific market (at least smaller regions like france v. switzerland, which was the example i was given by se), but on the other hand it would seem to be an explanation as to why some people flash with version X and see behaviour A and others do not see behaviour A.


[ This Message was edited by: quaeler on 2005-06-25 08:55 ]


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