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K750 / W800 Firmware Overview

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Posted by baste07
what's the latest FW for k750?


Posted by QuickShare
still stick to R1CA021 AFAIK.. or try to update it.. maybe something new appear? who knows

Posted by *dust*
Can any1 confirm the latest available W800i fw on SEUS? I'm currently on R1BC002. Thanks

Posted by max_wedge
Quote:

On 2006-08-08 22:22:47, timbushby wrote:
Yes, I tried flashing with the SE updated last night after I realised that was the cheapest way back to the K750 firmware. The phone is now even stranger still - the flash completed (twice now, as I tried it again) successfully but did not wipe all the contacts/settings etc etc - the firmware version has now changed to an earlier K750 version, but still has the W800 branding EXCEPT it has the K750 music player instead of the walkman one!! I've read of this happening before where the combination of the 2 firmwares produces some wierd sort of hybred - no complaints though as at least the phone was stable today

Will wait until the weekend then try this free FAR thingy everyone seems to be using.


When you flash with Davinci, it doesn't reset setttings (stored in the FS flash), therefore user content and settings, some branding etc will not be touched. The main flash file however is completely replaced, which is why you get the K750 mediaplayer. You don't have a hybrid as such... it's just that the FS hasn't been completely overwritten by SEUS. The phone software however is full K750, only some FS remnants make it look like a W800 hybrid.

Posted by arnoz
Does anybody know if a new release is planned soon?

Posted by yakko78
Quote:

On 2006-08-12 22:19:27, bizquik wrote:
i have a w800i with the last firmware released
my phone is crashing very often
it just freezes with the time on the screen, screensaver...



That's what I get too. Less than you, but I have also bluetooth problems with my gps dongle.
I think there are a couple of w800i with memory problems.

Posted by shyam335
Can you guys zoom at 1632 x 1224 pic size?

Posted by *dust*
Do u mean while taking or viewing a picture?

Posted by zionist87
Quote:

On 2006-08-20 08:51:44, shyam335 wrote:
Can you guys zoom at 1632 x 1224 pic size?




Yes i can..

Posted by subzuk
Hi all,

I just debranded my three uk SEM K800i using wotanserver. Worked like a treat. However, When I go to Play Now on the main menu It does'nt seem to work when I'm using 3G, only when I'm on gprs. Which setting does it use?

Cheers

Posted by max_wedge
Quote:

On 2006-08-20 08:47:51, yakko78 wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-08-12 22:19:27, bizquik wrote:
i have a w800i with the last firmware released
my phone is crashing very often
it just freezes with the time on the screen, screensaver...



That's what I get too. Less than you, but I have also bluetooth problems with my gps dongle.
I think there are a couple of w800i with memory problems.


If your phone is crashing, try a master reset before assuming it is the firmware. Time and time again I have seen people put up with crashing phones for months, just blaming the firmware.

If the master reset does nothing, then it was a waste of time, but seriously, there is no crashing problem with the latest firmware, so I feel if you only want to blame firmware then you might miss out on fixing your problem. I have run both the K750 and W800 lastest firmwares on three different handsets without one single crash. The firmware is VERY STABLE.

I have also seen first hand many instances where my own phones or others that people bring me to fix are crashing or unstable, and about 90% of the time all that is wrong is the firmware has gone south and needs a master reset (this reinstalls the phone os from the firmware image). The other ten percent of the time the phone needs a full flash or firmware upgrade - in other words not that often.

So if you haven't already, bite the bullet and try a master reset. Remember that flashing with SEUS is not a full flash, it is main flash only, so flashing with SEUS sometimes requires a master reset straight after the update to bed the new firmware in properly. I have often had problems after a SEUS update that a prompt master reset fixes, never to trouble me again.




Posted by max_wedge
Quote:

On 2006-08-20 08:51:44, shyam335 wrote:
Can you guys zoom at 1632 x 1224 pic size?



I haven't been able to do this since firmware R1N035...

Posted by yakko78
Quote:

If your phone is crashing, try a master reset before assuming it is the firmware. Time and time again I have seen people put up with crashing phones for months, just blaming the firmware.



Ciao!!!
I read the forum every day, since the issue about file transfer, as I had that problem.
So, I know each firmware and I know that this one is perfect for transfer but it doesn't work with bluetooth at all.
I use a gps software, maybe u can try it, (odgps) and it works with every cell I tryed with the same bt gps. Not with my w800i.

I did a master reset. I did a soft reset. I did twice the fw upgrade. I tryed every kind of option combination and I know, _I'M SURE_ , there is a bug in java memory allocation.

Know why?
With a different theme from the default one, Odgps don't start to update even the altitude. Less memory u use -no clock, no background, no screensaver- better the application work. Even like this it stops updating speed and altitude and it hangs. If u try to quit it hangs and bluetooth crashes.

I don't know if this is only a personal issue, since I don't know someone using odgps and a bt dongle. That's why I opened a thread some days ago.

Then I get all the same things of the guy before.

More! I get a reboot when trying to add a phone number to the same contact (francy -> add office number -> 002388... -> save -> restart) and the number is not saved, always!

I never used FAR, or failed a firmware upgrade nor have a k750i@w800i. Mine is a pure w800i with the latest firmware, which IS NOT STABLE.

--
Vieri

Posted by max_wedge
Quote:

On 2006-08-21 23:10:28, yakko78 wrote:
Quote:

If your phone is crashing, try a master reset before assuming it is the firmware. Time and time again I have seen people put up with crashing phones for months, just blaming the firmware.



Ciao!!!
I read the forum every day, since the issue about file transfer, as I had that problem.
So, I know each firmware and I know that this one is perfect for transfer but it doesn't work with bluetooth at all.
I use a gps software, maybe u can try it, (odgps) and it works with every cell I tryed with the same bt gps. Not with my w800i.

I did a master reset. I did a soft reset. I did twice the fw upgrade. I tryed every kind of option combination and I know, _I'M SURE_ , there is a bug in java memory allocation.

Know why?
With a different theme from the default one, Odgps don't start to update even the altitude. Less memory u use -no clock, no background, no screensaver- better the application work. Even like this it stops updating speed and altitude and it hangs. If u try to quit it hangs and bluetooth crashes.

I don't know if this is only a personal issue, since I don't know someone using odgps and a bt dongle. That's why I opened a thread some days ago.

Then I get all the same things of the guy before.

More! I get a reboot when trying to add a phone number to the same contact (francy -> add office number -> 002388... -> save -> restart) and the number is not saved, always!

I never used FAR, or failed a firmware upgrade nor have a k750i@w800i. Mine is a pure w800i with the latest firmware, which IS NOT STABLE.

--
Vieri


The firmware upgrade via SEUS IS NOT A 100% FLASH. ONLY MAIN is flashed not FS. So to be sure it's not residual corruption of the FS on your handset, you must do a complete reflash using far. (since you've already tried master reset - sorry, I assumed you hadn't, my bad)

Or just take the phone back, since you shouldn't have to flash with far (and void warranty) just to have your phone working properly. I assure you there are no stability problems with the latest firmware. There is a hardware problem with YOUR handset possibly, but not the firmware version.

I use Bluetooth all the time. If yours develops problems when using odgps, then maybe that is causing the problems and not the firmware? Maybe it's just not compatible with the W800? I don't know, but trust me, if you keep looking to the firmware as the cause of your problems then I think you are going to get nowhere very fast.

btw I have a far hacked, K750->W800 with all da shit you can change with far, including the menu, and it is stable. Bluetooth is stable. Everything is stable. And I've done this to several handsets, all stable. All on latest firmware. Oh yeah incase you ask, I didn't hack my K750 until I had been on R1BC002 firmware for several months, and it was stable then as well.

Posted by flintolino
I wish I had the guts to flash my phone with FAR, or the inteligence to understand how it's done.
Technical assistance here in brazil = none, niente, nada.
And as my phone is branded SEUS still acuses 008 is the lastest firmware....

Cool isnt it ? I cant use the modded camdrivers, I cant play most of the new 3d games or use apps without having to restart the phone dozen times.... =)

Would a gentile soul guide me through the process? I dont really wanna screw a 1.800,00 bucks cell phone doing something stupid.... yeah .. thats how much a w800 cost here..... 1.800,00 bucks.

Im not familliar with davinci and far.... scares the hell outta me.

[ This Message was edited by: flintolino on 2006-08-22 08:18 ]

Posted by yakko78
I tryed a chinese, black, unnamed gps bluetooth.

It worked perfectly!!!!!

So, I am the only one on earth to have a gps bt not compatible with a single phone.

UPDATE: it's not true. There is a bunch of gps mouses that doesn't work on SE. Take a look at this post on SE developers forum:
http://developer.sonyericsson[....]hreadID=20492&start=0&tstart=0

I tryed the Altina GBT-708 with a N80, 8800, K750i.
They all worked, except for the w800i with latest firmware.

So beware of this bt gps device.

Thanks max_wedge for help.

Now I'll do some hack to the video section of my w800i.

--
Vieri

[ This Message was edited by: yakko78 on 2006-08-24 10:57 ]

[ This Message was edited by: yakko78 on 2006-08-24 12:13 ]

Posted by yakko78
Quote:

On 2006-08-22 00:51:53, max_wedge wrote:

btw I have a far hacked, K750->W800 with all da shit you can change with far, including the menu, and it is stable. Bluetooth is stable. Everything is stable. And I've done this to several handsets, all stable. All on latest firmware. Oh yeah incase you ask, I didn't hack my K750 until I had been on R1BC002 firmware for several months, and it was stable then as well.



Hey man!
Read this.
http://developer.sonyericsson[....].jspa?threadID=24248&tstart=15

Ciao,


Posted by yakko78

Quote:


On 2005-05-21 18:49:49, mwarner wrote:
K750 / W800 Firmware Overview

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[ This Message was edited by: mwarner on 2006-07-12 19:10 ]




Add this links, please.
They deals about gps mouse issue. It is a serious bug.

Sony Ericsson Developer Forum

Developer Community
Thread about Bluetooth connection terminated by screensaver. It deals about gps mouse

_________________
--
Vieri&Lulu' (Suzuki GSF600N Amaranto '00)
SE w800i + GPSWatch + odgps

[ This Message was edited by: yakko78 on 2006-08-24 12:22 ]

Posted by finurlix
um, nevermind.

[ This Message was edited by: finurlix on 2006-08-24 22:44 ]

Posted by *dust*
Any1 know what the latest firm ware 4 w800i?

Posted by yakko78
Ciao!!!

Quote:

On 2006-08-25 01:33:46, *dust* wrote:
Any1 know what the latest firm ware 4 w800i?



Take a look at the first post of this thread.



Posted by mwarner
> Add this links, please.
> They deals about gps mouse issue. It is a serious bug.

I agree that this is a bug, but it is really a bug that affects developers and not really end users. My firmware overview is intended to point out flaws in the usability of the device for the end user and not issues that affect the developer.

Posted by lewis71980
Why am I on R1AA041 still i am on Orange UK and it says I have the latest software already.

But I look on your website and it says differently..


Posted by yakko78
Quote:

On 2006-08-25 13:01:17, mwarner wrote:
> Add this links, please.
> They deals about gps mouse issue. It is a serious bug.

I agree that this is a bug, but it is really a bug that affects developers and not really end users. My firmware overview is intended to point out flaws in the usability of the device for the end user and not issues that affect the developer.



It effect the end user that wants to use a gps mouse. I changed two gps mouses. It's a waste of money.
Assuming it as a bug for developers (which is not only) it could be written a list of incompatibility for w800 (and not only).
IMHO it could be perfect for any bt device.


Posted by shacalu
Hi guys,

I found here many interesting things. Now I have a question:
I put the firmware R1BC002/EMEA4 and customization for EMEA4
I tried to update via SUSE but is telling me that I have already the latest firmw and press continue anyway..10 minutes updating and finally is R1BC002 - the same.
I think that update for emea4 is not ready. But which should I use ?

Posted by BUFFBOY
i believe theres no more update firmwares for the w800 no more??????????


Posted by rockygali
Quote:

On 2006-08-27 01:21:00, shacalu wrote:
Hi guys,

I found here many interesting things. Now I have a question:
I put the firmware R1BC002/EMEA4 and customization for EMEA4
I tried to update via SUSE but is telling me that I have already the latest firmw and press continue anyway..10 minutes updating and finally is R1BC002 - the same.
I think that update for emea4 is not ready. But which should I use ?



is this a W800? why not try America_2 or EUROPE_2

Posted by max_wedge
Quote:

On 2006-08-28 01:31:01, BUFFBOY wrote:
i believe theres no more update firmwares for the w800 no more??????????



maybe one or two, but also just as likely that there will be no more at all.

Posted by theguardian
can any1 help me... lately when i'm pressing my menu key (the one between the right and left action key) it doesnt go to the menu (recent events, notes and the other one) but when i check it in the service test at keyboard the button works?? what seems to be the problem here???
is it broken?? because i dropped it....

Posted by hhtoh88
Really need help here.

My w800i is driving me nuts.

Transfering MP3 thru disc2phone to w800i is a mystery. Even when it shows all the songs have been tranferred successfully, the minute I pull out the USB cable, only a few songs are being transferred. And I keep losing all my pictures everytime I remove the MSPD out of the phone and put it back. The files are there but the pictures seems to be corrupted and cannot be viewed. I have been reading many threads on forums (took me hrs and hrs) and it seems like the firmware I have R1N035 has a bug.

As per advice, I tried to upgrade trough SEUS, followed each and every steps, but it keeps telling me I have the latest software which I know is not true. Can anyone help me out? Need quite specific steps as still a noob.

The details of my phone:

R1N035

Customization

CDA102338/36 R5A
cxc 1250093 R1N035

Thanks in advance.


Posted by mwarner
> My w800i is driving me nuts.

Read the first post

Posted by davidd6
nobody know if it will have another new firware for k750?

last one R1C

Posted by mwarner
I don't think anyone here knows for sure if there will be another firmware update.
I suspect that unless the phone needs to support additional third party or internal hardware there will be little chance of another firmware upgrade. The current firmware is very stable and pretty much problem free.

Posted by Indiandawg
Quote:

On 2006-08-31 05:48:42, hhtoh88 wrote:
Really need help here.

My w800i is driving me nuts.

Transfering MP3 thru disc2phone to w800i is a mystery. Even when it shows all the songs have been tranferred successfully, the minute I pull out the USB cable, only a few songs are being transferred. And I keep losing all my pictures everytime I remove the MSPD out of the phone and put it back. The files are there but the pictures seems to be corrupted and cannot be viewed. I have been reading many threads on forums (took me hrs and hrs) and it seems like the firmware I have R1N035 has a bug.

As per advice, I tried to upgrade trough SEUS, followed each and every steps, but it keeps telling me I have the latest software which I know is not true. Can anyone help me out? Need quite specific steps as still a noob.

The details of my phone:

R1N035

Customization

CDA102338/36 R5A
cxc 1250093 R1N035

Thanks in advance.




am facing the same problem but my firmware is diff!! anyways..

i wanted to update my firmware but i am not able to do it...how? because when it says press and hold the 'C' button ders nothing dat comes on screen or not even on the phone...so..!!! m stuck over der

Posted by yakko78
Quote:

On 2006-08-31 15:14:00, Indiandawg wrote:
because when it says press and hold the 'C' button ders nothing dat comes



You need to install both usb and flash drivers as described on SE pages.
The battery as to be fully charged and the headset off.
You start SEUS, press C and link the usb cable to the pc.
After few seconds the phone is detected.

There is no other way to use SEUS. If u experience problems read this thread using "search option". To search only this threadm: bookmark the thread, then choose bookmark only" in search page.

Good Luck.


Posted by thefez
Quote:

(...)
With a different theme from the default one, Odgps don't start to update even the altitude. Less memory u use -no clock, no background, no screensaver- better the application work. Even like this it stops updating speed and altitude and it hangs. If u try to quit it hangs and bluetooth crashes.

I don't know if this is only a personal issue, since I don't know someone using odgps and a bt dongle. That's why I opened a thread some days ago.
(...)
--
Vieri



Yakko, I had a very similar problem with:
K750 (1 yr old firmware!),
Holux GR-230 BT dongle (perfectly working with my Palm T3)
odgps, gpswatch, mobitrack, jawatech

For all those apps, the BT connection with GPS worked a few seconds, just the time to get the data once or two. Then no link. I had to restart the app to get updated data.

I tried your advice on using a default SE theme but with no improvements, then, by pure chance, found the solution: DO NOT ACTIVATE THE SCREENSAVER.
Since then, all the above programs plus J2MEmap and Mgmaps can keep up the connection to the GPS receiver.

Now I have to try and see if it is possible to have both BT GPS and BT headset connected at the same time...

Hope this helps.

Ciao!
TheFez

Posted by yakko78
Quote:

On 2006-09-01 19:05:33, thefez wrote:
Yakko, I had a very similar problem with:
K750 (1 yr old firmware!),
Holux GR-230 BT dongle (perfectly working with my Palm T3)
odgps, gpswatch, mobitrack, jawatech
...
then, by pure chance, found the solution: DO NOT ACTIVATE THE SCREENSAVER.



Thank you for the advice.
I never used screensaver. Read my previous posts if u want. I found the problem in SE developers forum.
The solution is to try as many gps dongle till u find the one compatible with your headset.

Byez!


Posted by Del Piero
Hello i am new here and i am new to this whole flashing\\updating thing so i have some noobs types of question and a problem. I have an unbranded k750i (i understood that a branded a phone is the one customized and synced to a certain operator Vodafone, Orange etc wich is not the case with my phone).

To cut to the chase, i purshased recently a san disk 512 mb memo stick pro duo. I tried to put my music on it and it worked fine untill i noticed that certain things (ringtones, themes, pics, mp3's) dissappeared from the stick when i added my music. Also some mp3 were placed inside some others Example: When you play Coldplay - Yellow you hear a part of Coldplay - Clocks etc or simply the file dissapear.

Easier Explenation:

I have Coldplay - Clocks on the Stick (Mp3 folder via copy and paste) and Yellow on the Computer.

I add yellow on the stick and one of these things happen:

1.Yellow isnt there but when you play clocks or any other song on the stick you could hear it.

2.Something get deleted from the stick wether its a pic or a ringtone or a theme and still yellow isnt there.

3.Yellow is there and everything is fine (it happens 50% of the time but most of the other times stupid stuff like what i posted above happens)


I am sick as i want a fast reliable way to add my music without errors and problems so i decided to update my phone as its running a R1N035 and i think a newer firmware could be the cure.

My questions:

Have anyone else encountered this problem before? if yes how do i solve it?

If i want to update my firmware to the latest version do i have to install all the updates since that version or just the latest one?

How to update since my update service dosent seem to get passed that stupid loading screen...http://img436.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledhe1.jpg


Posted by thefez
For the firmware update I still haven't tried it. Just have the phone for few weeks and started playing only a little... trying not to kill it!

Anyway you should have the latest Macromedia Flash player and remove as much applications as possible from those I can see you have running (in the taskbar).

For the memory problem there are lots of threads discussing a bug which causes corruption of data when you load them in the MS using the USB cable.
It should have been solved in the latest firmare versions. Just look around the forum.

Have you tried a MS card reader? I've a 2GB MS and loaded it to the max with music and some free java apps. Using the card reader. No problems.
Never tried the cable, as usually I found card readers are faster.

Hope this helps a little

TheFez

Posted by Del Piero
of course it was helpfull thanks

now i know that these corruption in data will go with the new firmware even though i couldent locate its thread. But the important question is: Do i have just to install the latest firmware or all the firmwares untill the last one?

Posted by Anger
Gobbo (Del Piero ), you just have to run SEUS. It'll do all. Anyway, to answer to your question, you just have to update with the last firmware, no need for the old ones.

Ciao,
Anger.

Posted by Del Piero
Thanks alot, after god knows how many times of installing\uninstalling SEUS and god knows how many times of trying to flash it finnally worked after i chose french. Now its updated to R1CA021 but the camera is still at 4.5 wich is weird. But the phone is much better and no more corrupt mp3's!! thanks anyway Romanista.

[ This Message was edited by: Del Piero on 2006-09-05 16:58 ]

Posted by Chrispy
Is it true that SE have discontinued releasing k750i firmware updates, and that R1CA021 is going to be the last? Does this mean there is a limit of the size of mspd we can use, or will they updat when they release a new ms? Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked already...

Posted by duxxyuk
Del Piero, you're lucky with yours.

I've tried SEUS on its own > "no updates available";
SEUX + W800.EXE (any CDA), SEUS loads the appropriate firmware and systematically quits to the START / EXIT screen after 30 secs.
I've tried flashing with Davinci 13.7 and I get an error writing the first block.
Looks like i'm stuck on R1N035 with UK orange branding (

can anyone help ?

Posted by funtoosh
any new FW for w800i expected?

Posted by danielcps
New firmware for K750i released On WOTANSERVER R1DB001 But is only released for FR_1. Is on SEUS too. Guys with FR_1 pls try.

Has anyone try it?

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[ This Message was edited by: danielcps on 2006-09-14 18:08 ]

Posted by govigov
any major changes in the phone? they have not given the differences in the new firmware.

Posted by tosinv
I guess I will not pay for the firmware as we can do it for free we can wait for it to be releaded in top sony.I am using R1BD001 for w800 cant find any such changes in that atleast dont know about k750

Posted by danielcps
i have no ideal...i sold off my K750i for W810i already ....... u guys out there with fr_1 pls do try and let us know.

@tosinv the new firmware is R1DB001 not R1BD001. WOTANSEVER released for RED36 and RED49. And for ppl who have CID49 i dont think they can flash for free with topsony rite?

But too bad is for FR_1 at the moment.

_________________


[ This Message was edited by: danielcps on 2006-09-14 18:26 ]

Posted by bisol
Hello All,

I have a FR_1 K750i. The upgraded worked as well

But I can't see what is new...

Do you hane any tips to do this ?

Thanks


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