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K750 / W800 Firmware Overview

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Posted by faultymonkey
Ok bit of a sticky here...

I recently upgraded my phone to R1N035 using SEUS and everything is fine. But I now need to upgrade to R1AA008. I've tryed to upgrade like I did before and it seems to do it but when it has finished I check the software version and it is still R1N035. I have the latest SEUS (i think) on the installation package it says 2.2.11b but once installed the program itself says 2.2.12.2 ....huh? My phone still works perfectly but I was just wanting to get the newest stuff.

Any help would be great!


Posted by Hesky
@ faultymonkey

1.The install package you have is 2.2.11b, but the program automaticly updates it's self to the latest version on launching it. (currently 2.2.12.2). SE have just not updated all the links on there site (selecting different phone models shows different software versions)

2. The program no longer tells you if you have the current firmware version. It will just download the one you already have and install it again if no newer one is available.



[ This Message was edited by: Hesky on 2006-01-19 19:00 ]

Posted by faultymonkey
So how would i get the newest version (R1N008)?

Posted by Dan_Aykroyd
You'll have to wait it get approved for your operator...

Posted by babakgh
Quote:

On 2006-01-19 17:00:56, new666 wrote:
@babakgh

Use Davinci team's client to check the color of your phone... if it is Brown SEUS will NOT upgrade it and you'll have to use DaVinci to flash and/or change you CID.


checking with davinci, mine is red ... . still confused

Posted by rockygali
Quote:

On 2006-01-19 13:33:08, Dan_Aykroyd wrote:
I know that SEUS will update to my CDA but, what I meant is if I can CHECK for the files downloaded before it flashes them. That's why I asked if there is a pause between downloading and flashing where I would have to re-plug the phones, so I could go and check the files for their version. This is cause I don't want to go from R1L... to R1N... instead I'd like to go to R!A..


Easy question...




checking files to be downloaded before flashing? hhmm no SEUS version does that.. i think... cause its an update service.. meaning always fore... going forward or upward wutevah... meaning no downgrade.

the thing you are suggesting is like the one in Davinci or any other third party remote flasher servers. yea i guess its a good suggestion... just to let consumers make their own decision on what to do with their phones. atleast they have an option to go back just incase they wont love the newer versions available for them..

and then i guess SE would say... try our shops.. theyll give you that service... wot do you think?!


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[ This Message was edited by: rockygali on 2006-01-20 01:57 ]

Posted by dietbrand
I believe you didn't quite get Dan_Akroyd's post.

The old SEUS I first downloaded the update files into a folder in de SEUS directory (on the local hard drive) before flashing.

If you opened the folder you could see (by means of decomposition of the filename) whet FW-version was going to be installed, even before flashing began (and thus you could interupt when wanted).

SEUS II probably still downloads before flashing (logically) but the destination folder is unknown (or the files are encrypted).

Posted by rockygali
and Dan also pointed out that if ever he wanted to downgrade... didnt he?

so i just answered that point... the question is pretty simple and i think i got that straight enuff...

so i thought he was suggesting sumthin...

Posted by Hesky
you could downgrade with the old version by replacing the file it had downloaded withsome old ones you had saved yourself with a previous update just before the flashing sequence started.

With SEUSII there is no pause between downloading and flashing so the opertuanty to swap any files you find has gone.

[ This Message was edited by: Hesky on 2006-01-20 09:25 ]

Posted by Dan_Aykroyd
Well... finally someone got me, I wasn't talking chinese here!

I didn't imply to downgrade... in fact, I thought that swapping files as you said to downgrade didn't work... was that working in SEUS I?

Posted by Hesky
1. I never swapped the files in SEUSI, I have just read that some people did this.

2 In SEUSII the files do not appear in the same folder that they used to or and named completley differently. I have not seen any posts by anyone claming to have found the downloaded files.


Posted by GothTeddy
Thought I'd see if if R1AA008 was up for Orange UK W800's yet, got my hopes up when it downloaded an update. But, it turns out to have just reflashed R1NA005.

They sure are taking their sweet time with this one

[ This Message was edited by: GothTeddy on 2006-01-20 18:08 ]

Posted by ronnyo
@Hesky

I think FW files are stored as .CL files in folder \\Update Service\\db\\13740270\\blob_db\\data. These files are binary.

Posted by chrisnewman
I'm on Vodafone UK and have recently upgraded to R1AA008 from R1N035 and thought I'd post how I've found it.

1) Taking photos is much better. Used to press shutter and get sound and move phone and then get blurred picture. I don't get this now.
2) Video is better although not great.
3) Battery life is MUCH improved over R1N, used to drain like hell but much better now.
4) NO hissing in calls at all.

So in all all happy! Guess it might be cos it's Voda's approved release or I'm just lucky!

Posted by faultymonkey
Does anyone know when R1AA008 comes out for Orange_Gen on K750i?

If not, where could I find out from?


[ This Message was edited by: faultymonkey on 2006-01-21 11:45 ]

Posted by arnarn911
Just upgraded to R1AA008.. So far i'm happy with it!

Posted by aremaboy
Same here..I updated via SEUS II-no problem-just 6 hours ago..it was my first update by myself,alone,with sweat and anxiety..without broadband connection-just internet cafe. Alhamdulillah,Thanks God! So far I love it..I heard that some phones were knocked out by SEUS II as the internet connection broke during update. That's terrible. I'm just lucky then..not an expert at all..

Posted by craggsy
Ok i ahve one small question, i just got my HBH-600 2day and when ive tryed it it cuts out mid call, i know this is a known issue but i have been reading through the firmware updates and some of the previous ones include BT upgrades that the lastest FW doesnt include. Now saying as i went from an old (defualt FW that came with the phone) firmware to the newest does that mean all of the bt imporvements that were included have been missed by me.

So what im asking is if u miss an update but then get the next one do u get the features from the missed update or not ?

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[ This Message was edited by: craggsy on 2006-01-21 15:21 ]

Posted by baste07
when will they release another firmware for k750.. hopefully there will be a flight mode in it

Posted by faultymonkey
can someone explain what flight mode is

Posted by Hesky
1. the "flight mode" only comes on the W800 (walkman phones) and is a walkman feature so it wont come on the k750.

It allows you to just use the phone as a walkman and not as a phone / walkman. (selected when you turn it on).

Posted by Bryw800i
I am from the UK and have just bought (20 Jan 06) a W800i on Orange. I have been browsing all the forums and keep ending up back at this one. I thought this would therefore be the best place to get a response.

The only problem I am having so far is with transfering mp3 files from my hard drive to my phone using disc2phone. The connection either dies (current transfers go to a different, colour and stop at 50% and right hand side can't see duo card) or it works but when I safely disconnect loads of the songs I just copied are missing.

I did one upgrade using the UpdateService_Inst_2.2.11b.exe download on the sony ericsson update service page and now have version R1NA005. I don't know what version I had before I did the update as I hadn't seen these forums.

Also what is SEUS I keep seeing everywhere, is this just Sony Ericsson Update Service?

To summarise can someone HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by faultymonkey
It seems Orange SE updates are a bit slower than all the others. I have a k750i on orange and im still on R1N035.

For transfering, I just use windows, just find the file and drag and drop the music into it. Much easyier than any programs.

Yeh, SEUS stands for Sony Ericsson Update service.

R1NA005 is probely the furthest your going to get at the moment, until SE bring out a new batch of updates for Orange Branded phones. I still want to know where I can find out when they will bring it out.

Posted by Bryw800i
Thanks for your help. Do you convert the bit rate of your mp3s as this is the most useful bit of the disc2phone software. I have 192 and want to convert to 64 to make the most of the space. May I ask if anyone has any advice on what (free!) software to use?

Also is there a limit on the amount of tracks the phone can handle or is it just a space limit?

Cheers

Bryan

Posted by ralfzs
I have a quick question about R1AA008 in comparison to
R1N0035. What are the major improvements? Is it really worth to go from R1N0035 -> R1AA008? I have seen some posts with communication problems when upgrading software?
I want to use Davinci logger to do this so I presume they have the latest and best firmware image?
I'd appreciate any information.


thanks
ralf

Posted by darrengf
Orange Have currently still not approved the last 2 updates on the SE service. This is possible due to the Hissing problems.

Also If you let you Orange phones update to the latest version on the Net You seem to get the same version of firmware. Infact you get revsion B.

I know this as The corruption of the memory card disapears when transfering files. So far this has worked in over 10 different K750i phones. The software is still R1N035 tho.



Posted by faultymonkey
eh?

I've tryied to update from R1N035 to R1AA008 about 3 times but it still says R1N035...

What most of us want to know is when they will bring out the next SE update that Orange will like.

Posted by SE_kekec
Hi all!

I'm just wondering if anybody successfuly upgraded F/W from R1N035 to R1AA008 with EMEA_2 customization or at least from R1N035 to R1NA005 on W800i?

Thanks.

Posted by darrengf
Currently I dont have any faults with the R1N035 on Orange, So im happy that Orange currenlty havnt released it.

Ok so you do get minor improvements but I dont want my phone to Hiss every time i use it for calls and i do use it for a lot of calls.

I would either think that Orange will wait for the next firmware which i know SE are working on now, Or asking them to modify the one to be released just for them.

I dont want the same problems the O2 had last year when GPRS/MMS functions just stopped working alltogether.

Posted by speak2al
Question.

Has anyone noticed with R1AA008 whether their phone holds more text messages than previous versions?
I have a K750i and used to frequently see the warning that I was getting near the maximum on my old R1L002 F/W, but since upgrading I have not yet had it once...

Posted by TeenInvader
Finally this weekend my w800 let me down when it died. It was hit by the white screen bug.

I had the RN035 fw. I sent it to the service provider for them to device what they going to do.

I hope I'll get the better fw.

Why are these fw so buggy? We, customer are working as testers now.

Posted by Phantomlynx
Two questions:-
[I hopethey haven't already been answered i nthis very long thread!]

1.. Has anyone noticed problems with their phone locking up on the latest firmware release? Mine never used to and has done so about 4 times since updating via seus 2

2.. Why does seus 2 go through the whole update proceedure only to give the same firmaware version I alread yhad? Surely it should read my version adn tell there is nothing new avaialble?

many thanks

Posted by ecstatic
Can anyone tell me how long will it take to update my R1N035 to R1AA008 on my W800 on a 64kbps internet line thrugh update service??


[ This Message was edited by: ecstatic on 2006-01-23 17:48 ]

Posted by shernandez
Quote:

On 2005-08-01 21:06:24, Splatman wrote:
Hi guyz,
I have the R1L002 firmware (the latest official) on my k750i but i have a lot of problems with the bluetooth connection to my Palm Lifedrive.
When i try to send a photo from my k750 the first time it's ok, but the second time it can't connect to the palm anymore. I have to do a full hard reset on my palm (deleting everything on it) to get it working again. However, i am convinced the problem's not on my palm, but on the k750 because with other phone's i don't have this problem.
I have the same problem with my internet connection (i use the k750 to connect my palm to internet with GPRS); first time ok, after that it can't establish a connection. I hope someone has a good idea how to fix this... Thanx a lot in advance.



I have the same problem, but my cellphone is a W600 and my PDA is a Lifedrive, so I dont know if the problem is the phone or the PDA, actually I haven't found the answer.

Posted by Syphon
Quote:

On 2006-01-23 18:35:40, Phantomlynx wrote:
Two questions:-
[I hopethey haven't already been answered i nthis very long thread!]

1.. Has anyone noticed problems with their phone locking up on the latest firmware release? Mine never used to and has done so about 4 times since updating via seus 2

2.. Why does seus 2 go through the whole update proceedure only to give the same firmaware version I alread yhad? Surely it should read my version adn tell there is nothing new avaialble?

many thanks


I was suffering from white-screen of death or whatever it's called so I updated my firmware, now my W800i locks up so often now it's unusable. SE need to fix this now!

And yes, SEUS is a stupid program for not checking the firmware version already on your phone.

SE need to get a grip because I can't use my phone!

Posted by TeenInvader
Eish I'm still waiting for mine to comeback and see how many more bugs I get in the new firmware.



Posted by RTouris
Just got off the phone with a tech support guy at a central SE repair centre, he kept on referring to the latest firmware release as R1AA028, so when I enquired about it he said that indeed a new version is out but as of yet it's only installed only at certified SE centres. Could it be that a new firmware version is indeed out and how long before its released in the wild (DaVinci and SEUS II)?

Posted by Hesky
If you are correct it is odd that they have not incremented the AA section of the FW name, it might just be there are only very minor changes.

Posted by arnarn911
after upgrading, i noticed i sometimes miss some sms messages. this usually happens when a message comes in and i pressed a key at the same time. when you look in the inbox, there is no new meesage there. very annoying.. anyone else experience this so far?

Posted by leibniz
Hey everyone:

I've been following this thread with interest. Although I haven't read EVERY page, I've read about a dozen pages and I'm considering upgrading the firmware on my K750i (assuming that I even can.)

I am on Rogers (Cingular) in Canada, and am currently on firmware R1N035 and my Sofware information indicates that the product originated in Hong Kong (or at least it originated with HK software.)


R1N035
prgCXC125955_HONG_KONG_CL R1N035
LCD SW versions
Main display
Current: 0


Just wondering if anyone else with similar configuration has successfully upgraded and if so, what is the extent of the "hissing sound" problem.?

Thanks.


Posted by babakgh
my k750 firmware is r1l002

r1l002
prgcxc 125952_eu_1_cl
r1l002

lcd sw versions
main display
current:0

and i am using latest seus but it says "you have the latest version " how can i upgrade ?? anyone withthe same issue?

Posted by dontknow
RTouris; He is wrong. There is no R1AA028. Next public release will be R1BB00x or R1BC00x.

Posted by RTouris
I'm not really sure...He still stands by his claims, I just got off the phone to the exact same guy again...Maybe there are not for public "consumption" (i.e. SEUS II)...not really sure

Posted by alanoon
Looks like the new S/W is still full of bug

Posted by badboybob
I've been patiently waiting and reading here about orange 'approving' this version R1AA008 so my cr*ppy W800i can start acting like they said it would when I bought it. Has anyone actually got confirmation from Orange that this is beiong held up by them. I just tried to get this sorted on their customer service line and they tried to fob me off with 'its a manufacturer issue' not a service provider issue. They didn't know diddly squat about the problems and tried to tell me it was a dodgy memory card that was stopping my mp3 transfers.

I don't understand why we're all waiting for this. We have been sold a pup. These phones do not work as they said they would and IMHO that means that the 'are not fit for purpose' seeing as they are named 'walkman phones'.

Does anyone have anything official from either party that says what is happening? I'm getting sooooooooooo fed up.

Cheers
Bob

Posted by kristianm
I emailed SE yesterday, and here's the response I got:

- - -

Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson Call Centre.

With regards to your enquiry, at present we do not have details of when a new firmware update will be available for this handset. We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again for further help and support.

- - -

Posted by defiant1
Sony Ericsson Call Center in Sweden still denies any knowledge of the "hissing during calls" problem. (I included a link to the thread about hissing in my support request)

They tell me to send my phone to a SE service partner.


I really hope that everyone that is experiencing problems with their handset report it to Sony Ericsson.

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[ This Message was edited by: defiant1 on 2006-01-27 07:10 ]

Posted by rockygali
Quote:

On 2006-01-24 21:26:51, arnarn911 wrote:
after upgrading, i noticed i sometimes miss some sms messages. this usually happens when a message comes in and i pressed a key at the same time. when you look in the inbox, there is no new meesage there. very annoying.. anyone else experience this so far?




ive noticed that same bug... like for example im doing anything on my phone besides composing SMS or browsing SMS Inbox (i.e. picking files for media player, browsing photos, choosing themes) then eventually i have received an SMS, itll show on my screen the sender, then ill eventually choose to read it so i picked YES... then after reading that ill eventually get back to what i was diong previously, when all of a sudden youll get the same alert but eventually after you choose YES to read that alert, nothing comes on..

ive experienced that on the previous firmware (R1N).

my K750 has R1AA008 EU1 (SEUS2 upgrade) from an R1N035 EU2 (Davinci Flash); originally my firmware is R1L002 ZH (out of the box) its CHINA

Posted by leibniz
For anyone interested:

I just upgraded my K750i firmware from R1N035 to R1AA008 (Hong Kong) and the first thing I notice playing tunes via speakerphone is that there is definitely more of a hissing sound. It's noticable and I'm sure it wasn't there before. I'm not generally swayed by the bandwagon effect (i.e. expecting hiss) but knowing about the problem allowed me to take note both before and after the upgrade.

Not sure if I can put up with this until the next firmware release or if I should look into a davinvi downgrade. (From my reading, I assume this is possible)




[ This Message was edited by: leibniz on 2006-01-29 22:15 ]

Posted by Scorpio72
Curious ! I upgraded from R1N035 to R1AA008 on dec.15th and, today, my friend have upgraded his K750 and just after, i told him about the bug where he won't be able to zoom on panoramic pictures, then he tried and, surprise ! It works ! So, i tried the same action, nothing ! No zoom on panoramic pict. ! Is it a new revision of the R1AA008 ? What should i do? I didn't check the hissing (that i have). Any idea?


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