Posted by Leviath
I bet all this could go on my topic.....
Winge away
Ways of tellinh SE what we feel
Posted by b.brown
how do you guys check the video bitrate? thanks
Posted by Leviath
we check with some benchmark test... do a search
Posted by b.brown
thanks, i guess i have to find out what benchmark test by myself
Posted by virtualdynamix
The music only feature also helps when you are in areas where mobile phones are not allowed to be turned on, ie. hospitals, and airplanes. It's still quite difficult explaining to the flight attendant that your phone is actually in "flight mode" but more of them seem to be aware that such a "mode" exists in today's mobile phones.
Posted by numb
If you go to the country for a day knowing theres no networkcoverage, then why bring your phone in the first place ?
Wouldent it then be easier and more suitable/efficient to just bring a flash mp3 player for musicplaying.
#virtualdynamix
We have had that debate before, point is that flight attendents doesnt and should not allow the use of a device even if it has flightmode, unless the device has been tested and approved for flightmode by the authorities or the airplanecompany. It isnt and should not be a question of you convincing the staff that it works, and then letting you or anyone else use whatever device they carry with a non tested flightmode. Its a matter of security for many people, its not a matter of your personal convinience. They shouldent allow it, and it shouldent be possible for you or anyone else, to convince them to take the risk.
I dont see any point for the airplanecompany to try and keep an updated approval list of tested and certified phonedevices for flightmode, its much to costly. Its much easier just to not allow the use of these devices, and thats what they do.
Therefore the flightmode isnt really a flightmode, but more a batterysaving mode, and imho thats a mood feature as turning off the main function of the device and thus converting it to a simple flash mp3 player to gain a few hours longer playingtime defeats the whole purpose of having a phone and the purpose of having a phone with an mp3 player in order to be able to do both at the same time.
Then youd be better of having separatetely a good phone and a good mp3 player.
Naturally thats just my opinion, others are entitled to disagree
Posted by kristianm
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Yup, I know. I asked because I felt the first post should be updated of these bugs.
Posted by aps
R1L as in the Earlier version used in 750...not the 800 one...
Posted by O2 K750i
Does to 800 software work - if so why not release the 800 swr to the 750 users?
Posted by Leviath
@kristianm
That post should be updated in more ways than one....
@O2 K750i
Well why stick for a half breed... take it to SE and demand a W800i and say thats what you had b4 you updated.... lol
They problably so stupid that will give you one. lol
Posted by mwarner
> That post should be updated in more ways than one....
If you guys have suggestions for the first post, then feel free to let me know.
The main reason why I haven't updated it is because the majority of problems that have been expressed are not universally acknowledged - e.g. some people have a certain problems with their R1N phone (e.g. files going missing from the MS Duo Pro, playlist goes wrong after first pass), but others with the same firmware revision have not experienced and cannot reproduce these problems.
I believe even the bug that is listed on the first page cannot be reproduced by some prople with R1N. I guess I would put a list of the known 'bugs' and mention that it only affects some people, perhaps only those who have had a bad flash?
Personally I would like it if those experiencing problems with files on their phone going missing or issues with the media player would take out their MS Duo Pro and reformat it in windows. After reformatting, retest the phone and see if the problems are still there - and let me know the results!
Mike
Posted by jriff
S*it!!!! My upgraded k750i just destroyed 30 of the pictures on my MS.
Are there any way of recovering the data? It was pictures that I really wanted to keep.
I can't begin to grasp how SE can keep sending theese bad firmwares to their customers.
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Posted by mwarner
@jriff
There are plenty of utilities out there to recover lost / corrupted files for digital (and other) media. Just have a search in Google.
As you are obviouly experiencing the flash corruption issue, it would be GREAT if you could reformat your card in Windows (once you have retrieved everything you can off it) and see if this solves your problem. I would be very interested to hear the results.
P.S. Did you flash the phone with the MS Duo inserted?
Posted by jriff
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Well - the thing is that I have no problems copying the files to my harddrive, it's just that the files can't be opened with PhotoShop or any other program I try. It says something about a bad or missing JPEG-header (I think that the files are just garbage)
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I have no card reader so I guess that I can't reformat using Windows? Or can I do it through the USB cable supplied with the phone?
And yes - I flashed with the memory card inserted.
Btw. I no longer get a pop-up when I recieve a SMS? Is that a firmware bug also?
Oh - and what is the "flash corruption issue"?
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Posted by Leviath
@mwarner
maybe this is exactly wht it should say...
bug so and so reported in some cases but not in others and so on...
At least anyone reading that would have a much broader idea of what they may be affected with....
Perhaps then these users can e-mail SE and ask then about these issues with theire particular CDA
Posted by hragsarkissian
are they willing to release a version for the w800, one day ?
Posted by Paoii
Stupid Question Number One: Is this firmware for the W800i or the K750i?
Posted by Tina.x5
Well ive formatted 1 of 3 m.s to FAT32 tried again to add files, no change what so ever
so i formatted back to the original FAT & still no better on my last attempt only 8 out of 54 files were still there after disconnecting! i dont no wot else to try? i thought i had sumat goin wen i done a "settings reset" on each m.s but this didnt last long, can sometimes escape by adding around 5 files but this isnt practical at all. ive lost patience now, also noticed another problem sometimes mp3s get 'over writed' onto a previously added track, the track has the name, length and size of the previous one but when played its one ive just added lol its only happened 3 times so far so im not hung up on that.
checked my log n ive got (38 ERROR didnt get ack for reset of loader) true i had no request to set language or reset on the actual fone after flash so i done master reset myself. dat's about all ive got for now.
Posted by Del
I have that error to in my log '(38 ERROR didnt get ack for reset of loader)'
However my K750 is working perfectly.
Posted by Leviath
Del boy??? You plonker you forgot to plug in the fone!!!
Joke
Posted by Tina.x5
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Now i am confused pmsl, did u flash wiv the mem stick in or out? i left mine out
Posted by Del
@Tina.x5
I flashed with the memory stick in.
I must be extremely lucky as I have so far not had any of the major bugs that have been reported here, not even with R1A. Having said that though I do have the BT headset problem which is a little frustrating, but I can live with it.
Posted by O2 K750i
To be honest after 5 months at £30 contract per month this phone is complete bosh. SE up yours.
And another thing - I would love someone to claim SE for false advertising - youve seen the tv advert where the happy couple take a photo of a leaping fish. My points: 1) the camera quality with R1J/L is degraded, 2) the camera takes sooo long to take a photo after pressing the button the dammed fish will be out of sight.
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Posted by Leviath
@O2K750i
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=104830
Posted by Tina.x5
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Hmm now to find out if everyone with the file disapearin prob flashed without memory stick, i doubt it makes a difference n it cud be a long shot but its a start coz im baffled n annoyed by it
ive had tiny bugs with R1J nowt big enuff to moan about but this just stinks, ive emailed SE anyways, bet that was a waste of time aswel lmao.
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Posted by Dan_Aykroyd
Hi... I bought a W800 a couple of week ago and I have some questions (firmware regarded) that, I think may be already answered around in the forum, but I don't even know how to search for them as there are tons of results; so I'd be glad if someone had the time to answer me or point me in any direction. And by the way, I have the R1L002.:
1) Who releases these firmware? SE? Davinci? (whatever the hell that is)? Are they 'official'?
2) Where should I get the SEUS mentioned to update the phone? And where the firmware (binaries) files?
3) What about the branding?? I live in South America and the phone is completely brandless; except for the SIM menu and that's it...
4) Chances of failing and ruining the phone? Any other advice before trying?
5) Not very important but, as I said before... what the hell is Davinci? And underground team? Went to their site but couldn't find nothing!
Well... thanks in advance and think that you'll help a lot of other guyslike me too!
Posted by BUFFBOY
how come this thread is saying its for the W800i too...
its not even released yet for the W800i...
wtf?
Posted by djacemk
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I have the same questions......any answers aruound....
Thanks...........
Posted by Ibinco
use the search function on esato. Type Davinci. And read some.
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Posted by mamba
I got the same question too..
Who/what the heck is this davinci?
Posted by Del
@Tina.x5
If your problem is that bad then take your phone to your local se service centre and have them flash it back to R1L, also shared in this post http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=104999
hopefuly this will keep you going until se get their fingers out of their backsides and sort things out
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Where there's a wheel there's a barrow
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Posted by mwarner
Updated the first post to note the memory stick corruption issue seen on some R1N phones. Additionally I have noted which firmwares are released for the W800 and which for the K750 only.
For those asking "What is Davinci", just have a look at the first post in this thread or search for "DaVinci" using the Esato search tool. Esato contains answers to all these common questions, and it's undoubtedly quicker to find the answer through search than it is to post a question and wait for a reply ... or as some say
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Posted by SL33PYH34D
Personally I suspect that a number of the people experiencing problems with R1N035 are probably the same people who experienced the random crashes and other issues with the first firmware releases.
Most of these original problems and by the looks of things most problems that have been reported with R1N appear memory related in one form or another.
I am certainly still inclined to think that there is definitely a duff batch of K750i's out there and no matter what SE do with firmware they will always experience problems.
Fortunately I appear to have been rather lucky in that my K750i has never exhibted any of the major reported issues like MS corruption or reboots/crashes, but the fact that I am running R1N firmware (and the earlier firmwares too) without issue, whereas others running exactly the same firmware have so many issues it would definitely point to the root of the problem being a hardware fault.
Posted by n3x
That could be true... although when i first got my k750 (r1a) it would crash quite frequently now with r1n its fairly stable, as it was with r1j aswell.
But I think ive just experience this new fault with file transfers. I copied 2 videos across to my phone and when i went to play them 1 wasnt even there and the other just said "playback failed" everytime i tried to play it! I think SE have introduced some new faults in r1n and this one is a software issue as i had no probs before!
Posted by Julleman
Called SE in Sweden, they confirm that the problem exist with transfering files (mp3) using USB cable. All my pictures was deleted.
Posted by etaab
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Its always a possibility sure, but for every one of those people who're still having problems, theres many more who had problems on the older firmwares that no longer have.
Slowly the K750i bugs are being erradicated. As for these new bugs, such as disappearing files, i've never experienced those so i cant confirm them to be true - and i copy lots of files to my phone daily.
Posted by Leviath
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Yea I got them all
Posted by doone128
Reply from SE after complaining about losing files with new firmware (R1N)
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Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson Call Centre.
With regards to your enquiry, we have investigated the issues you have raised with our technical department who have informed us that they were experiencing technical difficulties with the Sony Ericsson Update Service which resulted in problems similar to that which you have described.
As soon as this was detected the Update Service was taken off line temporarily, but there was a small amount of handsets that were affected by the technical difficulties before we could do this.
To rectify these problems your handset will need to be seen by one of our Sony Ericsson approved service locations.
Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again for further help and support.
For more information on our products and services, please feel free to visit our website at www.sonyericsson.com
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Oh dear!
Posted by Leviath
oops!!!
appears that duff batch just keeps on growing...
Posted by Tina.x5
OMG i didnt even get a sorry, all i got was send it to the main SE service point in banbury! i disagree with the duff batch claim as that wud mean we (with new problems) would have had probs from previous fw if it was a hardware prob, my fone was mint b4 R1N. neways im not sendin it to em they had my k500 for a month
i've managed to get mp3s 2 stay by puttin em in the mp3 folder and not openin media files folder, cud sum1 also try that?;-)
Posted by SL33PYH34D
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Seems to be SE UK's stock answer to most things these days...
Posted by Leviath
@Tina.x5
I wouldnt wnat SE to say sorry I would want a resolution...
As to your believe of a duff batch trust me... I had 3 K750i' now all failed for something or other...
So if you dont believe it then oh well... Dont then...
My K750i's all O2 branded/locked... Maybe that's the difference
Posted by Del
@Leviath
I think you have hit the nail on the head there.
The majority of these firmware bugs are probably not se's fault, its probably down to the network branding stuffing up the phone.
When the K700 first came out I bought one on O2 (branded) and the thing would not even stay turned on for 10 minutes without restarting itself. So that went straight back and I bought an unbranded one which had no problems at all.
Since then I have had a S700 (unbranded) and now the K750 (unbranded) which have had no problems.
Maybe I'm just one of the lucky few, I don't know, however I do believe that the network branding should be blamed for a lot of this.
Posted by Julleman
I have downgraded my firmware to R1L002. Now transferring files using USB cable works fine!
See www.davinciteam.com
Posted by Leviath
@Del
Quite rightly so....
I am pretty sure this branding is gouing to have some sort of impact with the f/w and the way it all communicates with the phone.....
I would gladly blame the bugs on the Network operators but I cant believe SE have not covered those angles since its them that allow this to be done in the first place....
Posted by Del
@Leviath
Well when I bought my S700 I had to change network from T-moile to O2 as t-mob said that there was problems with the S700 firmware and they would not be providing it on their network.
Yet I have since given it to my wife who is on t-mob and the handset works perfectly. The handset is unlocked, so that leads me to believe that the problems are down to the networks branding.
However se obviously want maximum sales so they release a handset unbranded which they believe to be working properly to the networks, and in turn the networks will only release it if they can brand them.
At that point any problems with firmware become the networks problems and not se's.
It's a bit of a catch 22 situation.
As for me I will probably never buy another branded handset untill these sort of issues are resolved.
Posted by Leviath
catch 22 hell double that....
If I could afford unlocked mobile instead of locked I would.. But If I want a New toy the wifes gets one just like it....
Posted by Tina.x5
well my fone is orange branded n my m8 on o2 unbranded has the same damn file disapearin prob since R1N also. yes 'duff' fones do get purchased n more often than not the batch is pulled back n customers get a replacement, so if my fone was dodjy wen i got it it wud av gone straight back, but the fact is the thing worked perfect for 3 months rite up until i put R1N on it, theres even posts here sayin SE admit to this problem being R1N related! so some ppl have no probs n some do, its one of them things! if its down to branding then excuse me 4 bein a little bit pissed off but SE should test sw releases on both sim free and locked n branded phones b4 putting it up for us to find the bugs ourselfs! doesnt really matter now i worked a way around the prob n i can live with dat till SE wake up.
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Posted by Leviath
@Tina.x5
Now You know how I feel.... Frustrating aint it?
Posted by happycheesecake
I gave
a right "Leviath-ing" yesterday; yes their developers work Saturdays. I'm not worried about camera / video or anything like that. Its the ferking fact that their new BT headset - the HBH-610 - doesn't bloody work with the K750i!
What's ferking more I tested the HBH-610 before release and it worked fine. The release headset has firmware pre-dates the firmware I tested.
Monday morning I am going to nuke them. Not only verbally, I'm going to force them to recall the headset in Europe.
(Sorry Leviath old bean for the "Leviath-ing" gag! You know I don't mean it...)