Posted by mr_ppp
Hi there, been keeping tabs on this thread, and trying to update my Uk Orange branded k750 every day since the update was available, finally today my phone updated!
CDA102338/12 R26A
cxc125953 R1N035
ORANGE_GEN
and i was almost ready to debrand my phone too!
blimey, while i was typing this someone posted about orange above me, spooky!
[ This Message was edited by: mr_ppp on 2005-09-16 17:10 ]
Posted by mrwoll
I ran jbenchmark on my R1L and it shows up as 65K colors too? Odd i have update to R1N but gone back. I reckon jbenchmark is just wrongly calculating.
Posted by mr_ppp
Just had a quick test of the new firmware and a bit disappointed already, videos which played smooth as silk before and only broke up maybe once at the end, now judder, skip and one vid gave up and gave me the message playback failed, also see fullscreen playback is still blocky, ho hum, kinda an anti-climax for me so far lol and from reading other posts, i thought video was improved?
@mrwoll How did you roll back to R1L? video playback fullscreen was the one thing i hoped R1N fixed
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[ This Message was edited by: mr_ppp on 2005-09-16 17:24 ]
Posted by mrwoll
@mrwoll How did you roll back to R1L? video playback fullscreen was the one thing i hoped R1N fixed
What it supposedly fixed was the bitrate of taking videos yourself with the camera. But i didnt see that much difference.
Other people will prob know more about this than me, but I am guessing you are gonna have to use an older client version of Davinci (13.2 13.3) in which you can edit the CDA of your phone as Davinci 13.7 doesnt have the CDA you need.
So basically you need to flash it back to R1L, but I am guessing this will debrand your phone I am afraid.
But as I say other users will know.
Posted by andymac
Like mr_ppp, I've just updated to R1N on my Orange K750i. I tried earlier in the day and just got the R1L again, after I got the "your software is already up to date" message. This time, no message and a successful update!
Posted by mr_ppp
aha, damn guess i misread what it was about video that improved then, ho hum, thanks for the info, i did save the the files seus downloaded before R1N was available but im guessing these arent the correct format for davinci as the customisation file throws up a corrupt file warning, ah well, look before you leap comes to mind right now :-S
Posted by O2 K750i
Can we have more info on jbenchmark on R1L - O2 UK still block R1N and I am not sure I really want it.
Posted by doone128
Re: Corrupt files.
I've tried it on another memory stick and still got the same probs. I've not tested it on internal memory, as I thought the whole idea of having a MS slot was for photo/video storage?
Maybe it is a MS slot problem, but it seems strange that this only started when I upgraded to R1N. Maybe it's the way the firmware caused the phone to talk to the MS card?
As for the already corrupted pics/vids, they are still the same size, but information reveals their resolution to be 0x0, and no matter of file tranferring can bring them back from the dead.
ALSO, video playback of own recorded videos, although better quality, jerks every second.
I've emailed SE, so I'll await my standard, robotic reply.
=(
Posted by mrwoll
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JBenchmark 1.0 Java VM Details
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Microedition Configuration CLDC-1.1
Microedition Profile MIDP-1.0 MIDP-2.0
Microedition Platform SonyEricssonK750i/R1L002
Canvas Size (WxH) 176x176
Double buffer Yes
Color Yes
Number of Colors 65536
Total Memory 1048572
Free Memory 985492
JBenchmark 2.0 Java VM Details
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Microedition Configuration CLDC-1.1
Microedition Profile MIDP-1.0 MIDP-2.0
Microedition Platform SonyEricssonK750i/R1J002
Canvas Size (WxH) 176x176
Double buffer Yes
Color Yes
Number of Colors 65536
Total Memory 1048572
Free Memory 957932
JBenchmark3D Java VM Details
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Microedition Configuration CLDC-1.1
Microedition Profile MIDP-1.0 MIDP-2.0
Microedition Platform SonyEricssonK750i/R1L002
Microedition Encoding null
Microedition Locale no
Microedition Commports null
Microedition Hostname null
Microedition M3G Version 1.0
Support Antialiasing false
Support Dithering false
Support Local Camera Lighting false
Support Mipmapping true
Support Perspective Correction true
Support Truecolor false
Max Sprite Crop Dimension 1024
Max Texture Dimension 256
Max Transforms Per Vertex 3
Max Viewport Dimension 1024
Canvas Size (WxH) 176x220
Double buffer Yes
Color Yes
Number of Colors 65536
Total Memory 1048572
Free Memory 951304
Now just need someone to test a R1N. I am pretty sure that jbenchmark is just misreading the color values as a downgrade from 252K to 65K would be more visable I am sure.
Posted by numb
#mr_ppp
Videos are playing smooth as ever on my K750 with R1N035
Blocky fullscreen has nothing to do with firmware, but with the fact that video resolution is encoded in 176x144 pixels while fullscreen is 220x176 pixels, the videoresolution are simply upscaled which cause the slight blockiness. This will never change.
If your videos cannot play fullscreen without jerkiness and even fail to play, then they are not encoded according to proper standards. Did you encode them yourself or are they downloaded ?
#Doone128
That sounds really bad, I dont beleive it has anything to do with firmware, but more likely with a ms slot hardware problem. The fact that it started after firmwareupdate is a coinsidence
Posted by Leviath
For all of those outhere that have branded /locked O2 phones unable to update at the moment there is a somewhat sketchy bit of news...
I e-mailed SE asking about this R1N035 update from R1L002 and what problems I am curently experiencing with the current f/w... (long List)
theire reply as follows:
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So wilst there is still no timeframe to this full implementation this answers the question some of us have been asking... -It is coming...
I feel gutted that that was all I got from SE support but after all theire just support and not meant to be that helpfull....
Thats my 1 cent worth on that one.... And just for the record the cable is plugged in and Im trying as we speak... and I guess I have to wait for thye freakin phone to charge....
Be back to report...
Later
Posted by O2 K750i
@mrwoll - So R1L is interpreted as 65k colours then? or have i misread the figures?
@Leviath - have another spliff
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Posted by mrwoll
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Yup I guess so. Its a bit odd. But another reason may be that it is only testing java applications and those arent running with full colors. jbenchmark maybe not be testing the phones full capabilities, if that makes sense. I dont know though as I only downloaded jbenchmark about an hour ago and havent really looked into that much.
Posted by Leviath
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I dont think you misread the figures but it is on the 65K mark but I wonder as Im sure you do wher the remaining 200k went...
Or maybe your right and I should get a bliffter rolling... Only way to be normal.... For me at least...
Posted by mr_ppp
@numb your right, i had forgotten about the resolution, i had read somewhere about 220x176 being the correct resolution for fullscreen but forgot, the videos i did myself and encoded at 176x144, thats that solved thanks, as for the jerkiness, i did encode them myself and some of the higher quality vids arent to specs but it fails to explain why with R1L the videos played fine and a hell of a lot smoother than they do with R1N, they play now off the phone memory worse than they did with R1L using the memory card
i just hoped they would play fullscreen without blockiness with R1N but as you rightly pointed out, the resolution i encoded at is not correct for full screen. Ive just tried to get creative with seus to roll back and now have ended up with a half breed phone, it has R1L firmware and R1N customisations with camera v4.5 according to the service info, vids still jerky tho lol :-S thinking i should have left well alone
Posted by Leviath
@mr_ppp
It's a shame that it is not possible lke you do with games to pick the screen size....
What I mean is if this were possible with videos would it still be jerky if choosing a 176x144 instead of letting the phone stretch the Video?
On another note I have converted 22MB videos to 3gp using Multimedia converter pro 2.0 and they play perfectly as they would on PC only at the smaller scale of course...
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Posted by numb
About the jbenchmark 65536 color readouts
People please stop inventing problems that doesnt exist because of lack of knowledge.
Colors of the K750 has not been changed and firmware has nothing to do with it.
jbenchmark allways show 65536 colors on every phone with 65536 colors and above, simply because its a java test, and the javamicroedition profile/platform do not support 262k colors. The max supported colors in the j2me are 65536 colors.
It has nothing to do with the number of colors the phone can display in all other situations.
go to the jbenchmark site and view all the results for other phones also with 262k colors, they all read 65536 colors in the jbenchmark test.
heres an example using samsung D600
http://www.jbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Samsung%20SGH-D600
Posted by O2 K750i
Hey - SEUS message
"Uh oh!
Sony Ericsson makes attractive mobile phones and mobile phone accessories, and develops powerful mobile computing technology.
Unfortunately, the server encountered an internal error and could not complete your request. Please check that you typed the address (URL) correctly."
I would suggest one of these statements is not true. Can we vote which one it is?
Posted by Leviath
@ numb
Just because someone doesnt know something it doest mean they cant learn it....
human nature makes all of us a bit like that, some are better controlled and seek that knowledge B4 speaking some just put theire theories in front of all reason or knowledge.
This is why Forums exist
People that have that knowlege help others without it and in turn these now hopefully pass that aquired knowlege down the line...
This is one of the fundaments of the www.
but of course I dont have to say this really... It is common sense....
But why am I going on....
I forgot.
Posted by mr_ppp
@Leviath
you can pick screen size with games with your k750? or am i misunderstanding what you mean? i only had super tennis with mine and it uses the entire screen but still in the same orientation as the vids when not in fullscreen mode, there arent any options to change it with that, well that i can see anyway, considering how blocky fullscreen video is i really can't understand why se put a fullscreen mode in at all if, hurts my eyes to use it, if im not getting it, someone please correct me, but i really thought the blockiness could be fixed, if not then fullscreen mode is a waste of time imho, an option not to stretch i think possibly might stop jerkiness, my vids always seemed slightly jerkier in fullscreen mode, im getting a headache just thinking about resolutions and what not now lol
Posted by Leviath
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From where I stand they anull each other...
Posted by Leviath
@mr_ppp
Yes this is what I mean you can choose screen sizes with the games on the K750i...
shame this does not hold true for the vids....
I cant see that option anyway....
On the Game you have to go into more (right softkey) B4 you load the game of course....
Posted by mr_ppp
Incredible, a new feature i never knew existed! now i see it thanks to you lol, indeed totally agree, should be implemented for the vids too
Just tried it with super tennis, guess that game isnt one suited to it, even at the highest selected resolution i can only see part of the sega logo lol, guess that one needs default settings
[ This Message was edited by: mr_ppp on 2005-09-16 18:58 ]
Posted by numb
#Leviath
True, but it is also common sence to think before speaking or posting hughe "problems" that doesnt exist, or making assumptions that are simply wrong.
If people dont know, they shouldent post threads stating that the firmware has reduced the number of colors of the screen, but instead ask if they have doubts or suspecisions.
Its not only wrong information, its also wrong assumptions both that firmware has anything to do with it and that colors are reduced, as well as being based on no real knowledge.
I dont mind people asking at all, thats what forums are for, and thats why I participate, both to ask and to answer.
But I do get annoyed sometimes when you witness how wrong information are blown out of proportion and spread like wildfire for no reason at all.
My applogies if I step on anyones toes when trying to clear up mistakes like that before it completely floods the forums.
Posted by Scorpio72
@numb ;
really I feel shame to have disturbed peoples there and shoked some of them. It was just a panic and I was really at the point to reflash my phone with the R1L002 version if you weren't here, to share your knowledge with everybody.
Apologies for this one more time !
Therefore, I am having a really big problem that i don't know if it comes to someone else ;
My only one problem is with the GPRS !
it hangs sometimes and sometimes it work okay
never i had this before with T630, K700i
since i bought my k750i, R1J002, i'm having this problem
Next, i updated to R1L002 and now, i'm on R1N035 and still the same
Sometimes, at lauching, sometimes when connected, and sometimes at disconnecting ... the GPRS signal hangs (i can hear tata, tata, tata.... on my home speakers when i put it close to them).
even if i put the phone off, it still the same ! then i remove the battery and put it again and on !
Now i found a tip to get over it, i do *# then call it return an network error but, seconds after, it disconnect and then i'll be able to use GPRS (for wap, internert, mms, emails, java apps...)
I dont know when SE will fix this problem !
It's annoying me to reset the connection with *#call many times in a day and night. even the option 'close connection' dont work !
Help !!!
Posted by Leviath
@numb
You make valid points and many a forum where I been comments like mine rather than yours would have blown into a flaming war....
I am glad to see I am amongst civilized people for a change...
On a diferent note (£20) Im afraid it seems that these assumptions with no fundaments (knowlege) will allways exist.... trying to create problems where there are none is another way of seeing the glass half empty rather than half full...
the www generation needs to learn that the www is the most powerfull weapon anyone can have (knowledge)...
But it is easier to ask (like we did when kids to our parents or others) then to go in search for our selfs... I for one am adventurous.... now my parents ask me...... Go figure...
Keeping it in perspective is what I try..... You said nothing wrong that offended me in any way.... I just wanted to tell you I felt your temptation take the better of you...
your ok, you all are....
Im the one out of order....
-Yes SARGE ///, straight away....
Posted by numb
#Scorpio72
No need for appologies, its absolutely ok, my own reaction was equally panic influensed
The gprs problem you are experiensing seems much worse
I have hardly used gprs other than an occasional mms, thus havent noticed any of these problems myself, but it definately doesnt sound good.
#Leviath
I was definately a litle to quick on the trigger in my reply, and I was honestly glad you reacted like you did, both in terms of reminding me and in terms of understanding how we occasionally "heat up"
Like you point out, atleast most of us in this forum are able to "heat down" again and stay friends - thx
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Posted by Leviath
By the by
Anyone want a gmail invite PM me with current e-mail for Invite to be fowarded to
One per person please....
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Posted by O2 K750i
@leviath
u got me what is g-mail? Or is the bliffter doing your head in?
Posted by Leviath
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@leviath |
naa its me I mean gmail
https://www.google.com/accoun[....]2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl
Posted by numb
Its a free mailhosting by google with 2.5gb mailstorage
http://gmail.google.com
Requires invites from other gmail users to create an account
Leviath beat me to it
[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2005-09-16 20:22 ]
Posted by Scorpio72
I'm a very old SE user ! since GH-688
I've used GH-688, GF-788, T10, T18s, T28, T20, T29, T68m, T68i updated with all the firmwares till R8A with (12 games !!!); T630, K700i, now, K750i R1J, R1L, R1N035.
I've never been so disappointed as i am with this last phone from SE !
those are the points i noticed since i updated to R1N035
- Video bitrate improvements
R1N is about 195kbps fps 10fps, very good job SE
- no Improvements to photo quality (just little less noise in dark)
- Bluetooth stability not fixed (sometimes crashs when transfering files)
- alterated display(was my first impression when just updated and
boot up my phone so, pictures seems less sharp.
- Improved reception (the signal strength indicator tends to be higher than in previous firmwares) ??? 5 bars but monitor indicates 71%
- Increased MP3 volume.
- MP3's via headphones are little louder (well to me anyway)
- Java apps run more faster but still have bugs (ex. audio in
castlevania just after entering into the castle) where R1J didn't.
- Backlight doesn't come on again to show time after phone locks.
- GPRS still, sometimes, have a bug occured when disconnecting or when connected. must do *#/call to disconnect.(at least in my case?)
- Bluetooth have to be activated before using java apps that use it (ex. BT Explorer)
- Can't add more than one favorite network.
- LCD red flash when swaping between video and photo
/// ... to be continued as SE make updates to update the problems...
Posted by adrianoliv
I am very sad with this new firmware. After upgrade my bluetooth and irda can send files but it cant recieve anything, it is in some way blocked to recieve any file, i have checked all bluetooth setings and are allright, but i cant belive even my irda not working right :angry
Posted by mrwoll
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I agree with all remarks made about R1N above.
A little off topic but you mention castlevania, are you talking about running vnes? Surely there isnt audio in vnes anyways? Well not as far as I can rememeber..?
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Do a master reset on just the settings. I had the same problem with R1N and that seemed to fix it.
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Posted by Scorpio72
@mrwoll
I'm talking about castlevania, a java game used to be on first nintendo in '90s....
the music is fine but just after entering the castle in the first level, the sound become crapy and discontinued...and the game start to be little slow...
Posted by 10ten
I have R1L002 is this old firmware?
Posted by mrwoll
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Yeh i know the game I have it too, but I have been running it and other classics (Double Dragon 2, Super Mario 1+2+3) on a NES emulator, vnes, but it doesnt have sound is the only problem.
Posted by rambalu80
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It is not old, it is the previous version. The latest version available is R1N035.
Posted by Dextermike
After using R1N for a couple of days, I can say that I am pretty proud of it!
Posted by adrianoliv
MRWOLL good bless you, i followed your advice and my k750 is working perfectly again THANKS
I have done a master reset before and no change but now with master reset but just settings my bluetooth and irda are perfect
THANKS AGAIN
Posted by Leviath
there was 100 invites to give away...
99 left
next
@numb
man lets get the crew hooked up on da gmail ting.... thou & me bro...
Posted by Leviath
98
Posted by mrwoll
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No probs.
Posted by darrengf
I have a Orange K750i and was able to update the phone to version R1N035 _EU3 on the SE Update
CDA Code ending 12
Hope this helps.
Posted by babyickis
The new firmware is superb
i got 100 gmail invitations too lol...
btw my gprs is not working well or maybe i haven't set it right :/
Posted by kidscruff
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Not sure what CDA code 12 means, but is your phone a proper orange-branded contract phone? Has anyone else managed to update their orange (or other branded) phones?
Posted by Leviath
97
@babyickis
They just keep on giving them away so I cant keep them...
I'll start a more apropriate Topic for those of us who would like to share theire 100 invites with the forum users wanting one...
@numb what do you think mate? I'll start it off...
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Posted by mrwoll
@Scorpio72
I downloaded the java version of Castlevania aswell and as you say the music distorts when you enter the castle and the games slows down. But I am running R1L so I dont think that had to do with the new firmware.
Posted by 0xyg3n
I think I have a majorish bug with R1N035 on my phone.
Everytime I try and copy mp3's to the sandisk 1gig gameing memory stick via the usb cable. It will copy the first 3-5 files the rest are shown in windows explorer but as soon as I remove the phone from the USB cable they are gone. I have tryed everything reflashing the firmware, reinstalled the usb drivers, restarted the pc several times, changing the windows driver setting from "optimized for removal" to "optimized for performance" for the memory stick, Formated the memory stick in both my phone and my Sony PSP. It worked perfectly before I updated to R1N035 and it copies fine when I use it in the PSP. I have also tryed using the 32meg memory stick (from the PSP) and the 64meg memory stick that come with the phone and they do the same thing in the phone.
Posted by Arre
Hi!
My k750i has software verision R1A044, camera 3,8.
Does R1N035 and camera 4,5 really improve the picture quality?
I have heard different opinions about it and I don't know what to think now. please help.
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