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Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Great, we have another fellow NZer!
NZer list:

Muhummad-Oli
Carkitter
Humphreybc
Chrispy
RevoWution
Soane28


Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I have an update on the SE releases in NZ:

I went into my local first mobile store yesterday, in Chch. I know the guy there is quite into his phones and reasonably knowledgeable and he told me a few things about SE phones coming soon.

Firstly, we may not be receiving the W910i. He said it is likely that Voda NZ will take the W960i instead of the W910i. He didn't completely reject the W910i, just said it's likely.

He also said we will likely see the W890i (good news to my ears) and the W380i fairly soon.

He said the K850i is definitely coming, but he said it will be over $1000 for sure. But I asked a few days before this at another first mobile store here and the woman there went as far as calling up some other guy of greater authority who said the K850i had not yet been completely approved for NZ. That is, it's still being tested. Fingers crossed anyway!

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
So did anyone else catch Muse in either of their Auckland or Christchurch gigs? I did! Most amazing concert I've ever been to!

Posted by carkitter
Just popped in to say Hi!

Laptop may be fixed soon, trying to find a keyboard for a Compaq Presario V2020AP.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@carkitter: I just saw this:

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=151891&start=60

Its the 2007 Esato awards. I'm not sure if you're an Aussie, but seeing you're in the NZ thread, I'm guessing you're an NZer! Thought it was hilarious that you managed to take votes for the Aussie prize. Congratulations!

Hahaha, must admit it seems almost insulting seeing we have the whole across the Tasman rivalry! Do you think you should have let them know the difference between Aussie and NZ? How NZ is NOT a state of Australia? Hahaha.

Posted by carkitter


It was an easy mistake to make at the time because my sig said "SE and Vodafone sponsor motorsport in OZ" . I've since made my sig and location less ambiguious. plus there was no best NZer category, just best Australian (for this region) and I understood the gesture that people were making.

Doesn't mean that I didn't visit the Australians - Where are you? thread and blow a raspberry though!

Kinda got me choked up to be recognised like that!

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Posted by Muhammad-Oli

On 2007-12-03 01:11:00, carkitter wrote:

Doesn't mean that I didn't visit the Australians - Where are you? thread and blow a raspberry though!



Hahaha, good old Trans-Tasman rivalry.
Maybe we can have a NZ section next year. Or perhaps Australasian at least!

Posted by carkitter
NZ website shows V640, K770i and W910i as available.
K850i and W960i are 'coming soon'
No sign of T650 or W890 yet.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Yep, stated that a few posts ago

I'm thinking phones like the T650 won't be coming

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
K850i is no longer 'coming soon'!
Hopefully we see it before Christmas!

PI have it for just under $900, I wonder what Vodafone will sell it for!

Posted by carkitter
Either $799 or $899 is my guess.

BTW the laptop is fixed!

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Those guesses seem a little low for a higher spec SE phone coming out. I'd say $999 at the very least!

I really do hope Voda will prove me wrong though.

Congrats on getting the laptop fixed! I'll expect to see you around more often then!

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Man... If the T650i came to NZ, I'd buy it in an instant.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Buuummmp.

Looks like we're only getting the W350i of the new release Sony Ericssons.

Posted by carkitter
The way Vodafone is dumping product on the market, I'd expect to see a whole new range soon... W950 $299 at Dick Smith Electronics

I think K800i stock is disappearing, must be time for K850i. Maybe Vodafone is nervous about the K850i camera criticism? Parallel Imported pulled the S500 pretty quickly after the Keypad controversy hit the internet and it hasn't returned, but they still have the W580.

I'm watching to see if the N95-8GB arrives soon, or if the old N95 lands in the Vbox with a discount! Certainly K850i at $999 vs the N95... K850i wouldn't move IMO.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I've never seen someone with a W950i ever, so I'm not too surprised about it's low price. Although that is some decent kit for that money! I don't think I'd give up my V630i for one though.

Interesting though, that Parallel Imported stocks the K850i with all its problems and yet doesn't have the S500i due to a keypad problem which is supposedly fixed/doesn't happen to everyone. But then, their stock of SEs has dropped in numbers significantly. Maybe they just sold out of S500is.

The price of the K850i has dropped from around $999 to $749 at Parallel Imported in a reasonably short space of time too, so perhaps it will come out on Vodafone cheaper than expected? (I wish)

Do you know whether the N95 sold well her? That would be a good way to tell whether the 8GB version will arrive. If the N95 didn't sell, then theres not much chance for the 8GB unless they do an even bigger advertising campaign!

Posted by carkitter

On 2008-01-10 01:23:50, Muhummad-Oli wrote:

Do you know whether the N95 sold well her? That would be a good way to tell whether the 8GB version will arrive. If the N95 didn't sell, then theres not much chance for the 8GB unless they do an even bigger advertising campaign!



The N95 is Nokia's Flagship model; there are billboards all over Auckland CBD saying "This is what computers have become" which is the N95 tag line. I think that at the intro price of $1699, it looked horribly expensive but with the reputation it has gained and the lack of a real competitor from any other manufacturer, the new price of $999 represents good value. It's hard to see them not insisting VodafoneNZ pick up the 8 gig version to continue the momentum.

Having said that, I suspect that Vodafone bulk-order much of thier range and won't consider allowing the 8GB version until the old model has sold out, hence I'm expecting a deal to arrive in th Vbox soon...

I also think that Nokia have positioned themselves well with the N95. It has a great combination of features and this formula should be able to continue for some time yet. As I said in another thread, I'd expect to only see detail changes to memory, camera and connectivity specs on a regular basis.

I'm disappointed that NZ didn't promote the K800i better and sharpen the price a little to increase volume. They obviously took a long term veiw of this model and then got caught out when the K810i and K810i ivory models appeared overseas. Now they've had to slash prices to speed things up a bit just to get the next generation on the shelves in NZ.

I ask you (rhetorically), is this Amateur Hour? Is Sony Ericsson New Zealand operated from the boot of someones car? Or a home office? Where was the advertising on TV and in magazines, in the NZ Herald, to capitalise on the ASB Classic tennnis tournament, a round of the WTA tour? During the televised prize-giving, the SENZ marketing manager was present; was this just a junket - some free food and grog at Christmas, a perk to look important and meet celebrities? Or was he there to oversee Sony Ericsson New Zealand's second biggest Marketing opportunity in this country?

Their biggest Marketing opportunity in New Zealand is of course the V8 Supercars which attracts a massive crowd over 3 days and is broadcast live to a very large TV audience too. I was at the last Pukekohe round last year and was disappointed to find that there was absolutely no support from VodafoneNZ or NZ for TeamVodafone, no competitions/special prices/advertising at all coinciding with the event or the appearance of the drivers who both went on to challenge for the championship. I realise that this is an Australian inititive and not directly related to the New Zealand branches of Vodafone and . But one must ask, is this because Australia has inititive? And a real desire to sell thier products and accessories? TeamVodafone's first year has been a major success!

I really think its about time fans in New Zealand start an email campaign to Sweden or even Dickie himself and ask why NZ choses to cower is the presence of NZ market leaders Nokia, whether this almost non-existant niche market plan is what they really have in mind for marketing in this country.

If all the worlds a stage and we are but players, NZ is a tree in the background with no lines...

As I see it. Sorry for the rant.

Posted by Gigs

On 2008-01-11 02:08:26, carkitter wrote:
I ask you (rhetorically), is this Amateur Hour? Is Sony Ericsson New Zealand operated from the boot of someones car? Or a home office? Where was the advertising on TV and in magazines, in the NZ Herald, to capitalise on the ASB Classic tennnis tournament, a round of the WTA tour? During the televised prize-giving, the SENZ marketing manager was present; was this just a junket - some free food and grog at Christmas, a perk to look important and meet celebrities? Or was he there to oversee Sony Ericsson New Zealand's second biggest Marketing opportunity in this country?

Their biggest Marketing opportunity in New Zealand is of course the V8 Supercars which attracts a massive crowd over 3 days and is broadcast live to a very large TV audience too. I was at the last Pukekohe round last year and was disappointed to find that there was absolutely no support from VodafoneNZ or NZ for TeamVodafone, no competitions/special prices/advertising at all coinciding with the event or the appearance of the drivers who both went on to challenge for the championship. I realise that this is an Australian inititive and not directly related to the New Zealand branches of Vodafone and . But one must ask, is this because Australia has inititive? And a real desire to sell thier products and accessories? TeamVodafone's first year has been a major success!

I really think its about time fans in New Zealand start an email campaign to Sweden or even Dickie himself and ask why NZ choses to cower is the presence of NZ market leaders Nokia, whether this almost non-existant niche market plan is what they really have in mind for marketing in this country.

If all the worlds a stage and we are but players, NZ is a tree in the background with no lines...

As I see it. Sorry for the rant.



The thing about handset choices is that this is Vodafone's choice, NOT SE's. It's easy to wask why we dont' get more form them here, and to a degree maybe they should direct market a little more, however even in the cooler models if VFNZ doesn't want it, they won't pick it up, they won't type approve it and they won't bring it in at all.

Should SE then bring in stocks they know won't be distributed through the various dealers because it's not a vodafone approved and tested handset, that will fail on various parts of vodafone live because of this, well no. That's what parallel importers and trade me fill in quite nicely. (Though admittedly I just picked up my p1i from trademe as it was cheaper than contract term phones from VF and completely unbranded in anyway. Just how I like my SE's lol)

In case you're wondering why I say no and not HELL YES, vodafone's dealerships are encouraged by vodafone (to sell certain models, when 3g was in it's infancy that's what vodafone wanted sold over non 3g phones. Dealers wouldn't be able to claim non approved handsets in this, so wouldn't benefit them as much. (The one's that like SE however no doubt might)

It'll also place an unnessecary amount of "bug/problem" related calls to SE's local helpline that may be because of firmware setup for the phone but not for our intended market. (Again through skipping vodafone's testing)

This is also a commentary on TCL (TelstraClear) and any other start up mobile company, surely if reselling vodafone's products they'd at least have tried to negotiate some sort of control over handsets they could also sell. Now that TCL has moved to reselling TCNZ's network and not voda's, well their choice in handsets is going to be set fairly well form now on. (EI the 1-2 possibly nice handsets that TCNZ have lol)

There was a time some of the SE ad's played here in NZ, IIRC it was either the k750 or the w800i one that did. I'm not sure however how noticed or how well they helped though. Maybe they didn't?

Their biggest marketing channel is actually the dealerships, unfortunately they're about as clueful as a cinderblock filled with stupid. I remember when one came into work to offer some guys phones, they were pushing a moto and a nokia at the time, i asked "hey when's the p990 coming?" "Um, it's not" they replied. Well I knew otherwise at the time, but what a maroon. A one off you might say? Sadly no.

Either way i'm sure SE might be able to do better, but with vodafone keeping tight reigns over what gets put on their network, there is only so much they can do.

Now to go update the order for my 8gig m2. Finally my zen is going to be rested at home after some faithful service.

Posted by carkitter
Vodafone's reign as sole supplier of product will be coming to an end as TelecomNZ gears up their long overdue GSM network. This would be a good time for SENZ to get a better deal out of Vodafone, but I'm sure they'll probably be suckered into doing an exclusive deal which maintains the staus quo.

www.sonyericsson.co.nz appears to be maintained from overseas as it contains info that is not relevant to SENZ's half-hearted attempt at a model range, it contains accessories that SENZ and VodafoneNZ have no intention of supplying, and indeed Sony Style and SENZ staff are ignorant of what it contains at all.

I worked for HondaNZ during the ninties. Honda bought CKD (Completely Knocked Down) kits of Civic and Accord models and assembled them in Nelson. These cars used NZ spec carpets and upholstery which placed them above JDM in specification. The kitsets were bought in bulk in a joint purchase with HondaAUS to keep prices down.

The same principle would work for SENZ. Bulk purchase with VodafoneAUS or get the overflow from VodafoneUK. You can't tell me that VodafoneNZ has that much trouble creating/developing locking software for phones.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
NZer list:

Muhummad-Oli
Carkitter
Humphreybc
Chrispy
RevoWution
Soane28
Gigs


Posted by soane28
I keep asking my friend working at vodafone if he has the K850 yet... really keen to hold a dummy to see what its like in reality. Has anyone heard any updates on the K850 availability in nz?

Posted by Evilchap
From what I hear around a month or two away.

Posted by soane28
thats great news! Was going to risk buying it online without holding it in hand!

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
NZer list:

Muhummad-Oli
Carkitter
Humphreybc
Chrispy
RevoWution
Soane28
Gigs
Evilchap



I haven't bothered asking about the K850i for a while, because to be honest I gave up on waiting. The Vodafone people in stores seem to nothing of phones until they arrive. I think most of them really have little knowledge and just work for the money.

To be honest, I think the K850i will be a bit of a flop here. It will be too expensive, and anyone can see the N95 has better specs and is likely cheaper. Plus Nokia is a much more popular brand here!

Anyway, I hope this means it will end up nice and cheap for me (wishful thinking)

Posted by carkitter
Have to agree with all of that.

Had a good look at the K850i on se dot co dot nz and I'm beginning to really like this phone despite the keypad. Haven't been tempted by a K-series since I had the K700i in '04. If it's half as good as make out it'll be awesome. I could possibly stand one more non-Wifi phone I guess...

Posted by Muhammad-Oli

On 2008-01-17 11:16:15, carkitter wrote:
Haven't been tempted by a K-series since I had the K700i in '04.



Well your V630i technically is a K618i Carkitter!

I'm still tempted by the K850i, as I was when I first saw the pictures of it. I just won't have the money as I'm about to splash out on a proper Sony digital camera! I guess I won't need the K850i then, and I'll stick with my V630i until a decent WiFi phone comes available

BTW, I just updated the first post of this thread. Thought it needed it really. Let me know if you want something on there or want something changed

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Posted by carkitter

On 2008-01-17 13:26:43, Muhummad-Oli wrote:

Well your V630i technically is a K618i Carkitter!




Actually, I think the K618 is technically a V630i.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Haha, alright you win that one then

Posted by carkitter

On 2008-01-17 13:26:43, Muhummad-Oli wrote:

BTW, I just updated the first post of this thread. Thought it needed it really. Let me know if you want something on there or want something changed



How about linking the list to the members profile so that a quick click in the first post will show thier latest posts.
You can copy and paste the list below if you want...

Muhummad-Oli (formerly Oh-li)
carkitter
humphreybc
Chrispy (formerly dumbrella)
RevoWution
Soane28
Gigs
Evilchap
How's that?


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Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Nice idea carkitter, I've added it to the first post now Thanks mate!

If you come up with anything else, let me know!

Posted by carkitter
You're welcome.
I thought it would be a good way to see which members are regular posters. Besides, Esato is so big you can easily miss people.

Did you catch the A1GP on TV3 this arvo? Jonny Reid put Black Beauty on pole for the Sprint race and 5th for the Feature. Won't be missing that tomorrow!

TV3 also announced that they will be broadcasting the V8 Supercars this year, not TV One. TVNZ did such a great job making the Qualifying and Races available commercial free on Freeview channel 20 and providing constant repeats that TV3 have a challenge on thier hands to match that effort. Go TeamVodafone!

Still nothing in the Vbox yet regarding special discounts

Posted by Chrispy
Wow, the number of Kiwis on here has jumped since I last looked. If i recall correctly, it was only Carkitter and I, when I first joined Edit: Nope, looking at the registration dates of certain others, Oli I am just plain unobservant;)

I really love the K850, and was sorely tempted to get one, but didn't really have the cash. It's a beautiful looking phone, pity about all of the firmware bugs and so on.

Have you guys looked at Parallel Imported on Queen St? (I'm assuming you're living in Auckland... ) Got my N73 off them. They have the K850 in at the moment (I was down there last week playing with one while trying to help my friend pick a phone to buy...)

As for A1GP, I've been so bogged down with work and partying and generally messing about lately, that TV is the last thing on my mind

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Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@carkitter: I didn't catch the A1 GP but saw a bit about it on the news last night. Unfortunately I am working on Sunday so I will miss it! Maybe I can switch the TVs at work so I can watch, rather than the usual crap on C4
In regards to motorsport coverage, I believe TV3 will do a good job. I watch 3 News most evenings and I find that usually the quality of their coverage of things is good. I switched to TV1's news the other night and didn't like it one bit!

I'm sure something nice will turn up in that Vbox shortly! Wish I had one lol.

@Chrispy: Nah, not unobservant mate. Around the time you joined, I wouldn't have been very active here. Before mid to late 2007, I hadn't done much on Esato since 2005 because I didn't have decent computer access. Now I have my laptop and I'm back long-term!

I don't live in Auckland, but I do regularly check Parallel Imported's website as I've bought some phones from them before. I have decided against the K850i because of complaints that the touch sensitive keys don't hold out, and I really don't want another faulty or bug-riddled phone. But you're a lucky b*st*rd for being able to have a play with one!

Seeing you've had experience buying your N73 from PI, could you tell me whether all the functions work, eg. 3G, video calling, etc. At the moment that is the only thing holding me back from buying a new phone from them! I've only ever bought 2.5G phones from PI before.

Cheers
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Posted by Chrispy
Setting up the 3g access point and all was pretty simple, as I just went to Nokia's site and got sent the settings. As for video calling, I don't have the settings at the moment, due to not having anyone to video call! I suspect ringing up Vodafone could be a good place to start, though I'm not entirely sure on how one gets video calling set up. When my Bestmate gets a video phone, I shall have a go at getting it working for sh*ts and giggles

On another note, I was very impressed that PI included an NZ charger with my phone, what seems like a Nokia one, in the sealed box. The phone has Chinese characters on the keys though. quite an odd thing to happen I thought...

Posted by soane28
Ive bought a K750, K800 and N95 from parallel importers on trademe and have to say ive been pretty impressed. It was as if i went down to vodafone and got one retail! And no chinese symbols either and all brand new straight out of box with original additions in box Great prices too, i saved approx $200-300 each time.

I too got a nz charger for all of the above, and just went onto SE or nokia site to get settings working. No probs there.

Have to say im rather tempted by both K850 and N82, although dont have the money to buy either! Prob best as i couldnt decide between the two anyway!


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Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Cheers for the info guys

I remember MyMobile mag used to warn that video calling won't work. I don't know whether this is still the case. I heard also that Vodafone may charge for setting video calling up or they may not do it because the phone isn't an NZ Vodafone original... They may not even be able to. I don't know.

Well I guess video calling isn't so important! I just would prefer everything to be working if I wanted to use it.

I bought a K700i from PI a few years back for $400 when it was retailing at Voda stores for $800! You don't often get savings like that anymore!

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
From the latest announcement, it looks like we are to get the two radio phones, the R300 and R306 here. I suppose they will sell here because they are a little different.

I can imagine teenagers at the back of the bus pulling out an R306 to listen to the radio and annoy other passengers

Would like to see the T280i though.

Posted by carkitter
Those radio phones look interesting but with no A2DP or M2 support they are pretty limited in thier appeal. 65K screens and 0.3Mp camera these days? Z610 from TradeMe or a K610 would be better value for money.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Yeah true, true. They are very low-end though in my opinion and some people will only buy new rather than older ones from trademe, etc.

Posted by carkitter
The new range is due in February according to my local Vodafone store, including W910i. Still want to upgrade my camera to 3.2 MP at least so W910i/V640i/W350i/R300/R306 and W950i/W880i won't do.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Its so disappointing isn't it? Its kind of a coincidence that you should write that as I have just finished contacting SE through their website to try and find out a few things about phones.

I am looking to upgrade as well and have accidentally fallen for the W890i which isn't coming here according to the SE site I really want the W890i and am not keen on getting an imported one due to things maybe not working. I too want 3.2 MP at least, and I don't care about autofocus... (If I want really good photos, I use my Sony T2) And I want something a bit new and different. I've never had a Walkman phone before so am keen to try one. THE W890i IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT! It also has a few other cool features and it definitely looks the part. Its up to date too with A200, etc.

Otherwise, for 3.2 MP (or more) we are limited to buying an old (and joysticky) K800i (no thanks) or the W960i which WILL be very pricey. I just checked a few importers and the W960i is going for over $1000 at all of them. That means it will be even more when it arrives. I don't really want a smartphone anyway, it would be wasted on me lol. Also, I have decided my next phone has to be A200. I know I am narrowing it down but anything else is too little an upgrade for me.

Ah... What do I do?

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
This is so disappointing and poor, in my opinion:



Look at that. 6 Featured phones and almost all of them old or crappy.
Featured phones should be the top-of-the-line models or something special or something very cheap, not this crap.

We have:
Z310i - Announced December 2006, so not so old. But this phone is crappy. No video, only VGA. It doesn't sell well by the looks of it either. It looks cheap and is by no means a feature phone.
K610i - Announced almost 2 years ago (Feb 2006)! This has almost the exact same hardware as the V630i. Thing is, the V630i was announced AFTER the K610i, yet the K610i REPLACED the V630i here. Whats going on there?!
K800i - Announced almost exactly 2 years ago too! And released 1 and a half years ago. It has been replaced by the K810i which has already seen a decent shelf-life overseas, yet we didn't see it. I actually had to venture into the "old" Sony Ericsson phones list on GSMArena to find its announcement and release dates!
W200i - Announced January 2007 so its not that old either. Its not a bad cheap phone either, but last time I checked it had a crappy screen reminiscent of the T610i's. Not a feature phone either.
W880i - Announced February 2007. Ok, I liked this one when it was new, and it looks great still, but now it is old. The replacement has (or is just about to) come out overseas, but this phone still costs around $600! And its not very feature packed either. It has about the same features as the K610i which is under half its price! I want to see the W890i!
W910i - Announced June 2007. Ok, I would have no problem with this being on the main page IF IT WAS ACTUALLY OUT IN NEW ZEALAND! How can they feature a phone thats not even out? I'd much rather see the W890i than this, as its better featured and should be about the same price in my opinion.

Man, I am so disappointed at the moment.


BTW: Sorry, I'm having a good ol' complain
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Posted by carkitter
Well when I asked the Vodafone salesperson today she said that they see lots of Nokia reps but no SE reps that she can remember. The only SE rep she has met was at Big Boys Toys!

What we need is the S500/W580, the T650/K770, the K850i last year the W960 now and the W890 ASAP!. Then fans can finally be proud of the brand here in NZ.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I agree with that. Not too worried about the S500i/W580i, but they would be welcome additions to the range and I think they would sell well.

SE also need a really good phone that they can advertise the sh*t out of. Much like Nokia and N95. This will improve brand awareness here, as I believe theres too many narrow minded Nokia followers.

Posted by K71
well i'm quite happy with my K800i, bought it about a month before it was released here (from ebay, sept 06!!), took a few months to be able to get pxt settings sent for it, but other than that its been great (using 4 gig card at the moment)!!joystick is fine, although i'm not a heavy user.i don't think video call works, but my simcard is not a new 3g one, plus i've never actually known anyone with video calling anyway!!was thinking about the k850, but i think i'll wait for the update, or even next model release, as too many things seem to be a bit dodgy with the k850 to risk ebaying on (although it would probably work fine).

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Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@K71: I agree with you on the K850i... It all just seems a bit dodgey. Its been happening a lot lately where the touch sensitive keys fail completely, and in a place like NZ where its so annoying to get a phone fixed, it just doesn't seem worth the risk. Especially for that kind of money (SE K850 is around $650-$750 from various importers).

While I probably won't use video calling much (except occasional calls to my brother and gf if she finally gets 3G), I would like to have all the features of my phone working, just in case I might want to use them some day. Thats wht puts me off importing.

Also @K71, I see you are new to Esato, so welcome If you plan on sticking around, I will add you to the list of active-posting NZers here on Esato.

Posted by carkitter
@K71
Welcome to Esato!

Which city are you in?

Some 'local' threads to check out:

Tributes for Everest 'colossus'
New Zealand woman diagnosed with text thumb
Vodafone vs Telecom... The great New Zealand telecommunications battle
TeamVodafone 2007 thread - I'll be starting the 2008 thread before the first race on Feb 23.

Always great to get another kiwi here.

@M-O
I saw T650i on TradeMe for $450 and I'm REALLY tempted. I'm changing jobs ATM and if everything ends up how I want it to, I may be able to convince the missus it's time for a new phone!

Do ya think its worth the risk? Buying from TradeMe that is, not confronting the missus...
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[ This Message was edited by: carkitter on 2008-01-30 08:37 ]

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@carkitter: Lucky I was looking around online the other night and I was using PriceSpy to check some phone pricing. It led me to Expert Infotech's website, who appear to be a New Zealand parallel importer/computer store. I was quite surprised by their prices which I think is why I remembered them... When you said $450, I thought "Wait, I know I've seen it cheaper!"

Anyways, its $370 THERE. So you save $80 and it's a lot less risky! To be honest, I'll never buy much from trademe just because I've heard far too many horror stories! I'd only buy from retailers on there like Parallel Imported because I know I can trust them.

While you're at Expert Infotech's online shop, you may want to look around as their prices seem stupidly low!

And I was going to say check out the price of the W960i (at the bottom) , but I just realised its the W910i with the wrong picture Watch out for that, as they've obviously got one of the K770i pictures wrong too (among many other mistakes... They're obviously not experts at SE phone infotech!). Hahaha.

Should Expert Infotech not be to your liking, another place to check is HERE. They have it in black for cheaper ($430), and the other colours aren't much of a price hike from there. It depends on how much you pay for trustworthiness. I recently bought a Z550i for my girlfriend from ETown and their service was very good in my opinion. Plus they reply to emails which is something I find few other companies do!

You're lucky you live in Auckland and so you can probably just go into their stores and buy them straight away, rather than pay for (and then wait for) couriering like I have to

Anyway, I hope you find one of these options better than trademe!

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[ This Message was edited by: Muhummad-Oli on 2008-01-30 22:24 ]

Posted by K71
thanks for the welcome, but i've actually been lurking on this site for about 3 years now.i only just registered to comment about the SE W61S that is destined for the jp market.i would buy that phone asap if available for the rest of the world!!looks better than the k850 i think, even if it may be a bit bigger.3 x optical zoom!!sounds like the camera may be alot better as well.

anyway, i would say that as long as i can txt, pxt, make calls, and possibly use e-mail, i'm not too worried if i can't use 3g features at the moment.so most likley i'll continue getting new se's off ebay etc. thats where i got my k800, and k750 before that.both phones have been great (well, the k800 still is).but from what i've seen so far the k850 seems a little risky, although most should be ok i guess.

i've put 4 pictures up in the Photos section too.i'm based in wgtn.most likely i won't post on here that often, mainly just lurk as usual.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@K71: Didn't it get annoying not being able to see uploaded images on Esato when you weren't a member? It would've annoyed me!

Yeah I guess I don't have too much of a problem with no video calling... Do you still get 3G internet speeds?


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