Posted by yea g
Lol maybe asb send out all their bank statements at the same time.
Wish you were saying "Buying me a vaio P tomorrow. At half price!!" aye?
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Nah mine's Westpac.
Haha I wish I were getting a VAIO P but at that price its just ridiculous. Unless you know somewhere to get it half price?!
Posted by yea g
Direct from the manufacturer (Sony Jap or Sony NZ), but you have to buy multiple units.
Oh and I don't mean Sony Style, I mean wholesale.
[ This Message was edited by: yea g on 2009-03-03 04:39 ]
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Damn. Anyway I'm buying the HP mostly in Bond and Bond vouchers. So I have no choice in where I buy.
Posted by yea g
So wheres your t250 been lately? Been using it?
Posted by Evilchap
lol, and yep Oli still pimping my SE gear, lugging around an x1 at the mo
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@yea g: Not particularly. Well not me.
It's here. My dad has been using it lately because he needed a cellphone and I had spare!
@evilchap: That's awesome mate. Where'd you pick that up from?
And also, for the sake of our New Zealanders list in the first post, where are you from?
[ This Message was edited by: Muhammad-Oli on 2009-03-03 05:08 ]
Posted by yea g
I'm bored. I need my fast internet back!! telecom=
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Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I ran out last month too which sucked. Streamed too many movies last month
But got it back on Sunday though so I'm happy again... BTW, In Bruges is an awesome movie.
Posted by Evilchap
Im an Aucklander, got the handset from a mate in Aus
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Nice, I have yet to see an X1. I seriously wanted one for a while, but the price put me off!
Thanks.
Our New Zealanders location list is now complete.[ This Message was edited by: Muhammad-Oli on 2009-03-03 06:17 ]
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@carkitter: I know you were keen on the W705. Have you seen >500's unboxing?
Posted by carkitter
Err... no? Better have a look then.
I have my eye on a new toy - a roof mounted HSDPA antenna to improve my reception at home.
http://www.specialistantennas.net/gsm3g-antennas-8-c.asp
The 84 pound model.
Posted by kayml
Salam drari labas?
This message was posted from a SGH-X640
Posted by carkitter
Did anyone see Target last night on TV3?
They tested 8GB MP3 players. Their choices were:
- iPod Nano
- iPod Touch
- Sony Walkman NWZA828B with DRBT21G BT stereo headphones included.
- Samsung something or other (P2 or K3 I think)
They got the band ELEMENO P to test the devices and it quickly became apparent that everyone has different tastes and strong views over what features matter. Funny that isn't it
Anyway, I thought the preferences and comments related also to mobile phones and found it interesting that:
- Those who use email and internet a lot loved the iPod Touch.
- Those to whom sound quality matters loved the
and the Sony plug-in headphones.
- BT features turned everyone off, either because of poor reception or they felt like a techno-geek.
- Everyone thought the Samsung was solid and reliable but boring.
Final Ranking:
1) iPod Nano
2) iPod Touch
3) Sony Walkman
4) Samsung
The show will be available on TV3 Video on Demand here, it's not up yet but should be soon.
[ This Message was edited by: carkitter on 2009-03-03 21:17 ]
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Haha. Not that I have anything against Apple as a brand or anything, but I laugh at any 'test' of MP3 players where iPod products come out on top. Surely an MP3 player test should include sound as its most important factor, and everyone knows that iPod's sound, while decent enough, can't match Walkmans (and surely Elemeno P would be into sound?!). iPods generally win only on style and in the Touch/iPhone's case, usability and extra features. The click wheel on other iPods is hugely annoying.
Even so, it sounds interesting and I might check it out later.
Posted by yea g
Yea I saw that, when I saw the ad I thought "well of course the samsung will lose, tv3 hate samsung" Looks like I was right
Posted by carkitter
The video is up now:
http://www.tv3.co.nz/Target-1[....]eID/60320/cat/583/Default.aspx
@yea g
Why don't TV3 like Samsung? Why do you say that?
Posted by yea g
Cause almost every product check, sony or panasonic come first (Or maybe its just because their products are so good)
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Cheers carkitter, I'm just about to have a look. Viewing Esato on my new HP Mini today.
Posted by yea g
Nice! Run smoothly enough for you? Thats the only thing I don't like about netbooks, they use 1.6ghz processors like back in 2003
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Yeah so far so good. The atom processor is made so that little computers can run smoothly while being underpowered, so its running fine so far! I haven't noticed any real difference in speed compared to my Mac. I've just been trying to make Windows XP not look so Windows XP-ish.
Pretty happy with the price I paid too!
Posted by yea g
Ok to get windows xp at its best:
1. Install SP3
2. Find and intall royale theme (the silvery one I use http://www.softpedia.com/get/[....]s/Royale-Theme-for-WinXP.shtml )
[ This Message was edited by: yea g on 2009-03-04 07:29 ]
Posted by yea g
I saw another one of those telecom ads with the w705 on it and I also saw another one with some other phone on it. I dunno what the phone was but I think its a clamshell with an i-pod like (aka silver) top part
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Can't think what that would be... Know a brand? Actually we could probably just look up the Telstra Australia site and see Telecom's future range.
I think I saw in one of the Chch malls the other day that Telecom were advertising what looked like the LG Renoir on one of their stands.
Posted by yea g
I really don't know, the brand must be on the inside. Ive seen one before with a vodafone logo stamped on the back though
Will be intersting to see who gets the likes of C905 W995 Idou X1 etc. first
[ This Message was edited by: yea g on 2009-03-09 09:11 ]
Posted by soane28
oli - i really hope so! would like to have a look at it before i get one.
yea g - yeah for sure. Theres already pics of the C905 on telecoms new network site as examples of their new range so it must be planned to be launched soon after?
Telecom really make me laugh though when they say "T-Day" and "the mobile phone REVOLUTION begins". Where have they been for the last 3 or so years??!! Vodafone are probably cracking up laughing in their offices and posting it round to their collegues as a comic relief email.
[ This Message was edited by: soane28 on 2009-03-09 10:59 ]
Posted by carkitter
Last 3 years?
It goes way back further than that, past the introduction of CDMA to about 2000 when txting started to take off on Vodafone and everyone started leaving Telecom in droves.
Telecom have been so out-of-touch for so long, I doubt they actually know to get back on track. I'm seriously worried that they are going to go WiMax and become irrelevant again. The fact that they've shut TelstaClear out of their new network shows that they still haven't got any clue what they're doing.
Posted by soane28
Yeah thats definitely true, couldnt remember when 3g phones debuted, let alone texting!
Posted by yea g
Wow all this WCDMA GSM 3G UMTS HSDPA WiMAX stuff is confusing me. So WCDMA is the same as GSM right? And is Wimax different to edge and gsm etc?
[ This Message was edited by: yea g on 2009-03-10 03:14 ]
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I'm not entirely sure of the terms but I think WiMax is nothing to do with GSM/Edge, etc. WiMax is like the competitor to LTE.
Posted by carkitter
On 2009-03-10 02:52:12, soane28 wrote:
Yeah thats definitely true, couldnt remember when 3g phones debuted, let alone texting!
VodafoneNZ launched 3G (UMTS) with the V600 and V800.
Bellsouth phones could txt because they used a digital network unlike the 025 Telecom analogue network. Txting took off after Vodafone expanded the network and Telecom were caught with obselete technology. They initially tried to compete by using a 15s voicemail message but it sucked, everyone including me switched to Vodafone and Telecom had to upgrade to CDMA. Too late though because many of us former Telecom users never went back...
Posted by yea g
I notic on telecoms little video on their website, it says "cutting EDGE technology" (yes, edge is enthasized)
Posted by frankthetank
Ah the memories of sending my first text messages from a phillips twist (single line scrolling text haha!)......
It was 1999 when Prepay first arrived
And seriously who would ask Elemeno P about sound quality? Does that not strike you guys as some kind of cruel irony?
[ This Message was edited by: frankthetank on 2009-03-12 09:21 ]
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2009-03-12 10:15:19, frankthetank wrote:
And seriously who would ask Elemeno P about sound quality? Does that not strike you guys as some kind of cruel irony?
Hahaha that's good point! Personally I can't stand Elemeno P or 99% of NZ music.
Posted by JiSm
Heya Oli, I notice you havent got models listed next to me on the 1st post. I got X1, C902 and K850 buddy
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Awesome, I'll put those in, thanks. I was just waiting on confirmation on which ones you had. I knew you had an X1 but wasn't sure if you were still using it.
Posted by yea g
Wel so far in 2009, I have noticed a lot of new mobile phone masts going up all round the place. By the looks of things, NZ comms is putting them any old place, and telecom is putting their new ones next to their old CDMA ones
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I haven't noticed any down here in Chch to be honest...
@Soane28: A while ago I said that I thought I saw the Renoir being advertised by Telecom. Sorry to disappoint you but I saw the same ad again tonight and had a closer look. It was a Samsung Omnia, not an LG. Sorry!
Posted by soane28
Oh dam! Oh well, ive decided that if i dont like the LG i will sell up and get the C905. Ive had a really close look at every review i can get my hands on and ive watched hundreds of youtube videos of it so i think im making the right decision (fingers crossed).
Cant say ive seen any myself either!
Posted by yea g
Yes! thats the phone I saw, I must not have noticed the screen on it, but now that you mention it. Anyways the telecom ad is now replaced with one for Ms windows vista (lol)
[ This Message was edited by: yea g on 2009-03-18 08:05 ]
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Well it looks like Vodafone have flicked the HSDPA switch into the ON position here in Christchurch. I've been getting constant HSDPA reception all day at home and now at work too. Haven't tested it yet though.
Before today I've only ever seen the 'H' three or four times, which I assume was just when they were testing or something.
Also, the other day did you guys do the poll that Vodafone sent out to your email addresses(assuming you're all signed up)? The first few questions were:
Have you heard of Telecom T-Day?
Have you heard of NZ Comms?
Have you heard of Black+White?
Maybe these are signs that Vodafone is getting serious...
EDIT: Just tried the HSDPA and it seems definitely not as fast as my Telecom broadband connection at home.
[ This Message was edited by: Muhammad-Oli on 2009-03-19 04:56 ]
Posted by frankthetank
WOrd is that they are currently laughing at Telecom for unbundling their network, as they fully intend to lockdown their network features to protect themselves from the competition. Apparently
And yes wow I just looked and I indeed have a capital H on my screen
[ This Message was edited by: frankthetank on 2009-03-19 06:49 ]
Posted by yea g
Haha in auckland, we have had HSDPA for like over a year
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2009-03-19 07:49:00, frankthetank wrote:
And yes wow I just looked and I indeed have a capital H on my screen
I wondered whether you'd show up and confirm the H symbol.
And yeah I figured Vodafone were probably laughing at the pathetic claims Telecom are making about their network. Telecom's new network really doesn't sound any further ahead than Vodafone's and is probably actually streets behind. I wouldn't be surprised.
Posted by Evilchap
totaly off topic, but while playing a bit of COD4 online last night there was a random sniper with a New Zealand typical high ping and he went by the name Oli, could it be?...........
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Sorry mate, not me. I have a PS3 but no COD4, and my PSN is Tabooger as in Oli Tabooger (say it fast).
Posted by yea g
Yea his crappy simpsons quote he claims as his own...
I have a feeling telecom will not get UMTS or HSDPA for a while after they release their new network. And where has NZ comms been lately?
Posted by carkitter
On 2009-03-19 07:49:00, frankthetank wrote:
WOrd is that they are currently laughing at Telecom for unbundling their network, as they fully intend to lockdown their network features to protect themselves from the competition. Apparently
And yes wow I just looked and I indeed have a capital H on my screen
[ This Message was edited by: frankthetank on 2009-03-19 06:49 ]
Vodafone wouldn't have a landline network if it wasn't for Govt enforced unbundling of Telecom's network. It's Telecom's exchanges that house the Red Network's ADSL2+ equipment. If Vodafone got into a dominant position then I would expect them to come under the same sort of Govt pressure that Telecom recieved.
I don't think the V640i has a H symbol to display, it shows 3G+ instead.
I recently returned a speed test of 2.6Mbps in Pukekohe using Vodafone's 3G but have seen as much as 6.2Mbps from the same cellsite tested by others. That cellsite was 900MHz only, so my Vodem Stick picked it up but the V800/V640i/iPhone 3G could not. That appears to be the catch with Vodafone trying to meet the Govt's requirement of 3G coverage to 97% of the country.
@M-O
Your C902 supports HSDPA 2100MHz so you'll get an H in some places but probably not in others where the new 900MHz cellsites are. 2100MHz can handle higher capacity so is used in urban areas, while 900MHz can travel further with less signal degradation so is used for rural areas.
For a thread on rural 3G cellsites rolled out recently, look here.
@yea g
Telecom's new network does not include 2G or 2.5G (GPRS/EGDE) so its either 3G/3.5G or nothing. Speed could be anywhere up to 14.4Mbps and due to low initial usage (lack of customers) speedtests could return some pretty amazing results which will then drop as many people take advantage of it. Due to a lower capacity per cellsite (Telecom are using the 850MHz band - much lower than high capacity 2100MHz) there will either need to be more sites (high capital expenditure causing delays in rollout) or low capacity (overloading leading to upset customers). 850MHz should deliver good reception though.
It has been confirmed to me that there are no cellsite's on Auckland's North Shore at present which are 7.2Mbps capable.
The fastest speed I've seen is 1.7Mbps in Whangaparoa with 1.0 - 1.3Mbps in most other suburbs.
That means Vodafone had better pull their finger out and get some updated equipment up here or risk leaving a big opportunity for Telecom. I have a feeling a lot of the HSDPA 2100MHz equipment in Auckland has a maximum speed of 1.8Mbps.
Sorry for the long post, but the upshot of all this is that choosing a future phone just got more tricky as one decides whether to get a 'standard' 2100MHz phone, a 'wide range' 900/2100MHz phone capable of getting Vodafone 3G anywhere or a 'compromise' (US spec) 850/2100MHz phone capable of swapping between Telecom and urban Vodafone coverage.
Me? I'm happy with the iPhone at the moment, but will be looking for a 'wide range' Vodafone phone like the W715 in the future and a USB modem that is 850MHz capable to test the speed of the Telecom network.
Idou specs are not available yet but I would expect it to be 900/2100Mhz capable.
And in late 2010, Vodafone will rollout 42-100Mbps LTE and it'll all change again...
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2009-03-21 23:18:22, carkitter wrote:
Telecom's new network does not include 2G or 2.5G (GPRS/EGDE) so its either 3G/3.5G or nothing.
@carkitter: Cheers for the info.
But if Telecom is only 3G/3.5G, then how are people supposed to call and text on its network?
A few times in Christchurch I've had zero GSM coverage and only 3G coverage and I have been unable to call or text. I have only been able to use GPRS/3G based features such as pxting or video calling.
Maybe you can clear that up for me?