Posted by sincereheart
truly WIRELESS internet service in india
Hi all people here...i had a look at many posts here but was unable to actually figure out what exactly suited me...so i thought why not put my exact requirements here so that people who know more than me here can give a more appropriate solution:
A little background:
I have a laptop and i have to travel very frequently all over India...this is because of my recent job requirement...
I have been exploring ways in which i can connect to internet "wirelessly" while say i am in train or my hotel room in any city in india...
Out of all the options available now...reliance only seems to be the option where true "wireless" internet is possible...
But the speed is a killer in the sense that at times its pathetic far below 115kbps they claim...
From reading all the posts here in this forum it appears bsnl is the best choice for broadband at higher speeds...(but it is not wireless i think)
QUESTION: However, i was just wondering whether it was possible to actually use internet wirelessly at higher speeds (as fast as possible and available in india) when i travel or am not in delhi but say in mumbai or some other city...or while on train...
Apart from reliance which i know does offer true wireless internet...is there any service provider which offers wireless internet but at high speeds (unlike reliance whose speed is pathetic at times)....
thank u for ur valuable time and consideration...
hope someone will be able to point me in right direction...as of now reliance seems to be the only option...
sincere heart
(delhi but keeps travelling all over india, sincereheart@rediffmail.com)
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Posted by k4m!k4ze
yeah Airtel would be your best choice,
if you have a normal gprs enable mobile which can be used as a modem, you can achieve speeds equalling reliance's,
but if you have an EDGE enabled mobile phone, you can get broadband speeds using Airtel's EDGE service
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Posted by sincereheart
Hi k4m!k4ze,
"if you have a normal gprs enable mobile which can be used as a modem, you can achieve speeds equalling reliance's,"
I am really surprised because if thats truly practically feasible (the speed factor i mean which u say is almost quite comparable to reliance in terms of kbps) then why i am paying rs 1500 per month for reliance internet because as far as i know airtel gprs is only Rs 99 per month.
"but if you have an EDGE enabled mobile phone, you can get broadband speeds using Airtel's EDGE service"
This is simply unbelievable.
I would now urge you to specifically please please say me that what is the cost of a EDGE enabled mobile phone in India and which one would be the best in India to get maximum speed.
This way even though I have to purchase the handset which is EDGE enabled but i have to purchase ONCE only and airtel rs 99 per month unlimited internet is too cheap. This way atleast i will be able to save rs 1500 PER MONTH on reliance.
Please say which handset to purchase in india and also did u had a direct experience of having broadband speed (which according to TRAI definition is atleast 256kbps) on EDGE enabled mobile phone with airtel connection or did u heard it from someone else.
This is because i want to be sure that before investing in a costly handset and disconnecting reliance, I am atleast sure of getting a decent speed.
I know i have asked too many questions my friend but then u r my best hope now and i look forward to ur replies very eagerly and anxiously.
Thank u very very much man...
sincereheart@rediffmail.com
Posted by k4m!k4ze
Airtel's Rs 99 Gprs plan is for browsing wap pages only For unlimited internet including being able to use the phone as a modem you need Airtel's Web gprs plan whose prices varies from state to state from Rs600 to Rs150.
A cheap EDGE enabled mobile is the Nokia 3220
As for the speed, it isnt exactly broadband
, but its faster than reliance's speed and i havent experienced it first hand but u can try asking in the SE India thread, somebody might have used it there (i think user vineet has used it ) -
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=78434
Posted by sincereheart
"A cheap EDGE enabled mobile is the Nokia 3220"
Please also say that is it possible to have more speed with a better Nokia phone which may be more costly than Nokia 3220???
"As for the speed, it isnt exactly broadband , but its faster than reliance's speed and i havent xperienced it first hand but u can try asking in the SE India thread, somebody might have used it there (i think user vineet has used it )"
Sure i will do that...
thanks man again plz reply to first query...
thanks a lot really thanks
Posted by k4m!k4ze
yeah there are other nokia mobiles which are EDGE enabled, some of them - 3230, 7710 , 6230, 6630. Their cost wont affect the speed, it will always be the same for all EDGE enabled mobiles
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Posted by sincereheart
"Their cost wont affect the speed, it will always be the same for all EDGE enabled mobiles."
This is really surprising but then i must accept ur authority as i am a toal idiot in this field....
Posted by Oogamous
well here's a relatively new solution... since u have a laptop, u can purchase EDGE enabled PC cards... check out www.sonyericsson.com... acc to the site, these cards r available in india.. once u have purchased the card, u'd have to call a service provider (airtel/hutch,etc) and subscribe to EDGE... that way your laptop is constantly connected to wireless internet at broadband speeds.. EDGE cards eliminate the requirement of an edge enabled phone and r for travelling businessmen who require constant connectivity... check the SE site for more info..and you'll need to confirm with the service provider whether they provide such a service in india yet.. cause i'm not too sure..
Posted by shyam335
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this isnt exactly true,generally 3 series offer much less max speed than other series(6 series),as far as i know 3230 has a max d/l rate of 118(or 180 not sure),whereas 6230 has 238kbps or something speed.i think edge is the best option for u,since u use it in rural areas,otherwise i would have recommened u wimax(since dishnet launched it few cities).
Posted by whizkidd
Also, keep in mind that Edge hasn't been fully implemented all over india. In some areas there is basic gprs coverage only.
Posted by sincereheart
"well here's a relatively new solution... since u have a laptop, u can purchase EDGE enabled PC cards... check out www.sonyericsson.com... acc to the site, these cards r available in india.. once u have purchased the card, u'd have to call a service provider (airtel/hutch,etc) and subscribe to EDGE... that way your laptop is constantly connected to wireless internet at broadband speeds.. EDGE cards eliminate the requirement of an edge enabled phone and r for travelling businessmen who require constant connectivity... check the SE site for more info..and you'll need to confirm with the service provider whether they provide such a service in india yet.. cause i'm not too sure.. "
The concept is awesome but i have searched www.sonyericsson.com and also their indian site but unable to find any edge enabled pc cards...plz point to the right direction...
Posted by sincereheart
the concept of wimax is also interesting...can u indicate some site in Indian context on it...
also i am still not sure that after taking EDGE enabled handset will i have high internet speed access say 256 kbps or somewhere little more or little less...using airtel connection..........
plz has anyone used airtel connection with a EDGE enabled handset connected to a PC in India for accessing internet....what speed has been obtained...plz reply...vineet where r u...
Posted by sincereheart
"Also, keep in mind that Edge hasn't been fully implemented all over india. In some areas there is basic gprs coverage only. "
can anyone say what speed is obtained in airtel connection when using gprs enabled handset cpnnected to a pc...is it more or less than reliance...plz say in kbps terms...
Posted by Oogamous
@sincereheart... currently i'm on wap, so don't really know the exact address.. but i'm certain its on SE site.. under 'PC cards' or something... or else google it for the time being..cause a dedicated EDGE pc card would definitely cost less than an edge phone..
Posted by sincereheart
Hi Oogamous
ya i am searching and trying my best...thanks for ur continued support...
Posted by shyam335
on gprs u should get marginally greater speed than a dial up connection,5~7kbps.soitllbe slower than reliance,edge is quicker than relaince.
wimax has only launched in india by dishnet on 8 cities ,but they plan to increase it by the end of this year,with wi-max u have options from 256kbps to T1 or more,after 1 to 2 years,i think wimax will start to cover semi-urban to rural areas as well,so u can virtually replace ur edge or gprs by that time,with some exception,where u could possibly use gprs/edge.Wimax is at nascent stage,only dishnet has came forward with it atm,but giants like reliance,tata etc have pledged that they will come with thier services soon,so i think it has a better future.but itll take some time.
Posted by sincereheart
"on gprs u should get marginally greater speed than a dial up connection,5~7kbps.soitllbe slower than reliance,edge is quicker than relaince."
Dear shyam335,
I think u r referring to 5-7 K bps and not 5 -7 k bps. I mean capital K and not small k which would mean 40-56 k bps almost very similar to a dial up.
This is just my guess plz correct me if i am wrong.
In this case Edge is option but do u have any direct experience of what internet speed u get with airtel internet with EDGE handset...i mean in terms of kbps...so that i can decide whether to surrender my reliance or not...
as far as wimax is there i have to wait it seems plz point to indian resource on wimax also if u know any website
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Posted by k4m!k4ze
@sincere - man , whether you opt for Airtel or not, Airtel's gprs is waay better than reliance's 115kbps connection ! i know cause i've used Reliance's internet connnection and i can assure you that if you go for Airtel, whether it be Airtel's gprs or Airtel's EDGE service, its definitely faster AND cheaper than Reliance's piece of crap service !
AND wimax is not implemented in all cities so you cant access the internet wherever you go in india, Even if Airtel havent implemented their EDGE service in all cities, you can still use their basic gprs service !
And this is the link for sonyericsson's EDGE PC cards -
http://www.sonyericsson.com/s[....]00&template=pp5&zone=pp&lm=pp5
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Posted by c_vignesh
Hi Guys ! On the topic of GPRS and SE phones .. I have seen my SE phones (T200,T630,K508) not able to receive calls when I am connected to the net via PC (either thru cable or BT) ..is this SE phone problem or every mobile is like that ..pls help me out
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Posted by sincereheart
Hi k4m!k4ze
"And this is the link for sonyericsson's EDGE PC cards -
http://www.sonyericsson.com/s[....]00&template=pp5&zone=pp&lm=pp5 "
Thank u friend very very much...
but just asking has anyone used edge pc cards of SE with airtel or anything like that...i mean any personal experiences...
" @sincere - man , whether you opt for Airtel or not, Airtel's gprs is waay better than reliance's 115kbps connection ! i know cause i've used Reliance's internet connnection and i can assure you that if you go for Airtel, whether it be Airtel's gprs or Airtel's EDGE service,
its definitely faster AND cheaper than Reliance's piece of crap service ! "
I am taking what u say at face value and dumping reliance and taking airtel...thanks
Posted by shyam335
Right now,best way for u is edge(and gprs as backup),later u can go for wimax,oh and for wimax info goto tataindiacom.com and search dishnet,or use google
Posted by sincereheart
hi shyam335
"Right now,best way for u is edge(and gprs as backup),"
agreed 100% just need to determine which hadset is best for EDGE and affordable offering max speed
"later u can go for wimax,oh and for wimax info goto tataindiacom.com and search dishnet,or use google "
tried both found lot of links but not anything particular thanks plz reply
Posted by mrao
@sincere....i would sincerely vouch for Airtel gprs too..way better than Reliance
Posted by shyam335
i suggest u 6230 (or 6230i) ,or if u are willing to put more money,get some series 60's like 6681 or something.
as of wimax,here's dishnet's site , i think u have to contact them for enquiring its availblility and stuff.
Posted by mrao
get the 6630...its one of the best nokia s60 around...if you can stand the shape
Posted by sincereheart
hey buddy thanks for that dishnet link...i surfed and googled so much but was unable to find their address...it seems the technology is still eveolving....i mean wifi and wimax...
as of now everyone prefers airtel gprs and i am going for it...
also what about taking connection from hutch instead of airtel...any better performance...
as always thanks guys for ur support, advice and help
Posted by sincereheart
and yes i am still to decide which set to purchase as there is no single set which everyone votes but quite a few of them...have to take time to select...one more thing i never knew that at times indians like u are so tach savvy and participate so actively in thread...it was beyond my expectation...now i feel a bit proud being an Indian...thanks
Posted by shivam007
Wish the 3g revolution soon takes off in india too..
Posted by blue_earth
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I quite agree with @sincereheart... edge enabled pc cards are really the best option while ur on the move... they can make u truly mobile...
I believe Hutch provides edge enabled data cards for Rs. 8000/- and has various tariff plans for the same... please have a look at http://www.hutch.in
Tata Indicom (not GSM therefore no EDGE) as well as Airtel provide similar service...
Posted by macboy
Move to Pune. Major parts of the city Wifi'd with 2MBPS lines. PMC is hoping to cover the whole city including Pimpri/Chinchwad in the coming months
Posted by shivam007
Reliance is offering a plan of wireless internet of 1500/month.. Unlimited.. Wit the help of there data cards...
Posted by blue_earth
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But the data cards given by reliance now are not the sierra data cards which they used to give earlier.. They were known for their very good performance.. the ones being given now are of some chinese company and do not give the speed of 144kbps which reliance claims..
Posted by shivam007
Can't we use our own cards?
Posted by blue_earth
With reliance.. Afaik.. We can't.. They provide there own data cards which r pre configured to access only their network..
Posted by freworld4u
@everybod here
WHICH R THE CHEAP EDGE ENABLED PHONES???
suppose one just needs edge phone for surfin thru gprs ,,on pc!!!
can be of ane brand!!
is ane cheap lg phone wit edge and usb is there???
(since lg phones r mostly cheap)
i heard about nokia 3220 b4!!
but it has
no infra
no bt
no usb,,
then how r we going to connect it to pc???
ane other way?????
plz explian if know of ane!!
also what about cheapest se edge enabled sets with proper connectivity like bt or ucb/data cable????
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Posted by has33
3220 can be use with USB cables...look here but it gives pathetic speeds.
Cheapest Edge enabled phone worth getting is IMO 6020@Rs.4800 with bill...it doesn't ve BT but I got a download speed of 20~25kB/sec through IR.
@sincereheart...I'd suggest U get Ur self a BT enabled Edged device like W300 @ Rs.9750 with bill or the 6630/6681 if U want a symbian 60 device...that is the only way it will be truly WIRELESS like the topic U started...I ve used both W300 & 6681, connected with my laptop while keeping the phone in my pocket.
But now, I can't do without a WM5 EDGED device like my present K-JAM as it kind off, substitutes 4 my laptop which I can't ve with me everywhere.
Posted by se7an
guys, i suggest you to buy samsung x700 a good phone with class 10 EDGE. i use it on airtel in TN and i get neraly 20kbps download speed.
Posted by freworld4u
@ has33
1)do u know any site updating the mobil prices regularly with close to +/- 300 Rs,,in india?? at least showin the dealer prices(legal)!!!!
2) how much is n 3220? i had seen one with 4100 tag on ebay in brand new condition!!! is it?
3)and what will the usb cable cost for 3220(i supose the original nokia one as they will not hav any comppatibilty probs)??
4) u said about 4800 for 6020,,is it with warrenty(dealer price) or the grey case??
5)does these both hav multi application workin ability(at same time)??
6)and what about multi chanelling???(thats the main factor for free things)
7)do u know about other brands like LG egde enabled ones??
@se7an
whats the legal price/dealer price of x700?
1)does it supports multi channelling??
2)does it support multi applications?? suppose u hav to run 2 java aps at a time?
3)which type of software it supports(i mean extensions) only java or sis also??
4) what r the connectivity options for that?? usb/bt???
5) do u know about other brands like LG egde enabled ones??
@ evrybody with se's
which se is the cheapest with edge capability??
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Posted by se7an
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1.The price is around 8700.
2.yes. it support multichannel. i use it
3.no. it doesnot support multiapplications.
4.it supports only java.
5.it have usb and bluetooth.
6.1.3MP camera.
7.Micro SD card slot
8.265 color TFT
9.EDGE (class 10)
10.36Mb internal memory
11.Video recording
12.3D spearkers
13.and Good MP3 Sound.
Posted by has33
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is W300...I think, for Rs.9750 with bill.
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Posted by fullthrottle
@all
check
www.univercell.in for mobile prices
Posted by Charge
@fullthrottle: Univercell is only an indicator. You can get phone's for up to 1k less if you go to the right places...
@ the thread: I use both Airtel's mobile office (on an edge enabled phone - the SE K550i) and a Reliance datacard. The relaince card is much better. Speeds of 22+ kbps are possible and 14-16 kbps is normal even during the day. My phone never gives me over 12 kbps and that was once - normal max is 10 kbps and the normal rate is 6 kbps. The Airtel MO package is more cost effective however...
@c_vignesh:
Go to Settings->connections->data comm->*the connection you're using*-> edit -> allow calls and make sure its set to 'automatic'.