Posted by Aalpha001
Hi folks,
Mobile operators are fond of 'hyping' their GPRS offerings. Is full Internet access really accessible via GPRS? If yes, how is this possible.
I have been using my laptop to connect to the Internet for the past 3 months, via my GPRS-enabled mobile phone. Connection between phone and PC is infra-red. I can browse websites, secure and unsecure. The only glitches I have experienced are listed below:
1. Cannot FTP
2. Cannot sign-in to some websites; error is, cookie is not enabled. Have tried all the major browsers, with the same result.
3. Cannot use POP3 email via Outlook Express
4. Cannot IM on MSN Messenger and YAHOO! Messenger
5. Cannot use any JAVA-applet on any website, always results in error
6. Cannot stream live audio/video on multimedia websites.
Can anyone give me the best solution to the above problems.
By the way, my laptop is a Toshiba Portege 3490CT and my phone a Nokia 7250i.
Thanks in advance for useful tips...
Posted by Tahir Ally
Internet connection via GPRS is slow +you are using infrared makes it worse.YOU MUST CONTACT YOU NETWORK SUPPORT DESK FOR HELP.Buy a bluetooth phone like a K700i and i hope you will not have any problems
Posted by Aalpha001
I can affirm that it has nothing to do with the infrared connection because the connection speed can be as high as 920kbps on the status bar.
The browsing speed is okay just that I cannot use some features.
Posted by CrackerJack
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Yes, it is possible. But it is entirely dependent on your Telco/Service Provider if they are offering it. Get in touch with them for the availability and the settings. Some providers only offer WAP via GPRS.
Posted by Aalpha001
I just explained that I browse on my laptop via the phone. This service is obviously not limited to WAP. I enjoy WAP on my cellphone, as well as MMS.
Posted by CrackerJack
Even if you are using your laptop to surf but still connect to the net via GPRS on your phone, you are still limited by what the service provider is offering you.
Posted by OluYom
@Aalpha001: Indeed, your operator determines what you can or canot do with your GPRS connection.
I have a full internet GPRS account and have been able to do FTP, access secure services, make online purchases... just about everything.
Posted by Aalpha001
I am able to use e-messenger.net and MSN's Web Messenger, but not the real instant messaging softwares.
Would lay my hands on a smartphone and try POP3 on it. I thought someone would have been able to offer help, since I am connecting via the mobile operator's proxy server.
There should be a way around this...
Posted by Residentevil
You need to subscribe to full internet access.
Posted by govigov
Everything the poster said is true. I know it because i'm having the same problems. There is no known work around for this. Only diff is i can use yahoo and msn instant messengers with no problems at all. The ftp is use because the gprs gives you only 2 upload slots while you can have upto 4 or 5 download slots. For this reason, p2p like kazaa and torrent is not working. :-( (at least that is how i figured it out.)
Posted by jonat8
At the moment I'm on a full Internet GPRS access point and I get access to all ports and services, inc. FTP, HTTPS, WebDAV, MSN Messenger etc.
But on WAP access points, providers may only open HTTP traffic ports and limit downloads etc. (for instance, who would need to download a 20Mb file on a phone!)
Posted by Doctor t
I too im having all them problems listed at the start i wuld luv to know how i can get my pop3 working via outlook express and i find i cannot download music or anything help me plz
Posted by DeLa
So many users that do not read what is written. Anyway.
It should all depend on what your provider/operator allows through the gprs, it is very well possible that they blocked the types of traffic you mentioned. What does your contract say?
Posted by Aalpha001
I am on a prepaid plan. Let's assume my cellphone company enabled only WAP via GPRS for me, would it then still have been possible for me to surf the 'net using my laptop?
In their ads' they're bragging about one being able to access one's office network [LAN] via this GPRS. This is why I took it for granted that everything else would be possible.
Posted by OluYom
I see what you mean. But I learnt to always ask detailed questions before taking up a service. There's always the small print.
My network runs 4 slots downlink and 1 up, yet I do FTP daily.
As has been said, regardless of what your plan is named, at the end of the day you cannot go beyond whatever walls your network has put up.
Having said that, I would expect that something as basic as POP/SMTP should work on any internet GPRS service :rolleyes:
Posted by Aalpha001
It appears like full internet access is possible on GPRs just that the service provider might limit access for reasons best known to them. Well, my fingers are crossed.
Posted by Aalpha001
I have eventually solved my problem
I was using the WAP gateway for my laptop though I was browsing from a PC. Thus, services were limited.
Now that I have changed the gateway, I can do all there is to do.
Chat on YAHOO!, stream live audio/video, email and stuff.
My basic problem now is, I can't use neither Hotmail nor YAHOO! Kept getting this message: "Contains no data"
I use Firefox 1.0.4 by the way.
Posted by shuurajou
It is certainly possible to get /full/ internet access over GPRS. It will just be slower.
It is quite possible that you are using an APN designed for WAP usage, which would limit the capabilities of it, but most likely would still allow you to visit websites.
Don't be confused by this. An APN is the name of a gateway designated for a specific service. For example, here in Orange UK, we use 'orangemms' as the Orange Multi-media messaging gateway (which will not allow WAP/Internet traffic through it), but the 'orangeinternet' APN, will allow all http traffic etc through it. The active APN's, or rather the APN's that are currently specified for use, can be configured on the handset, and the laptop (or device).
You'd need to confirm with your service provider, what is the GPRS APN designated for full genuine GPRS internet access, not WAP GPRS access.
Depending on how you have it setup, there are any ways to insert APN's. You can either go into the advanced properties of your infared modem in the 'Phone and Modem options' in control panel (do not mistake for nokia modem options), it may show as a Standard 33,600kbps modem. Go into properties, then advanced and enter the following (exactly, including the ") into the extra initialisation command field.
at+cgdcont=1,"IP","YOURPROVIDERSINTERNETAPN"
OR, if you are using the Nokia data suite, in control panel you can go into 'Nokia Modem Options' and enter into the GPRS access point field the name of your service providers GPRS internet APN.
There are also GPRS modem settings on Nokia handsets which determine the access point for when the handset is being used as a Modem device.
[ This Message was edited by: shuurajou on 2005-05-30 00:48 ]
Posted by Aalpha001
This is exactly what I have done, and have since been smiling all the way.
Thanks for the 'expert' and detailed advice.
NB I have Nokia suite installed on my laptop and have entered the right APN on its options.