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Posted by hogemeister
And it's called G5....
With the growling PANTHER.......
Here kitty kitty...


Posted by nickorooster
Oh god somebody fetch the men in White coats. This man is suffering from macitis people!

Quick, get him on the de-crap-ulator!

Sorry. Can't say I feel the same way about macs .

Nick

Posted by hogemeister
Well, you will never know, coz you aint got one....
Move over Gates, Jobs is takin over...
Read it an weep....

Posted by Ayush
Lol :-D

Posted by govigov


Posted by Sage
Because an operating system with virtually no compatibility with 90% of 3rd Party software is sooooo much better right ?

Posted by hogemeister
Oh, wait a minute, can't say I've ever had a virus coming from a MACINTOSH OPERATING SYSTEM......

Who's the most hated man in the world(apart from George Dubya)? That'll be Mr Gates.

I rest my case......

Posted by nickorooster
@Hoge
I DO have a mac. My brother has a mac. Mine = G3, His = G4 and they both = G-Crap. But then again, you may think I am not familiar with g5. Wrong again. My school recently "upgraded" to them.

Who says we are backing Microsoft here? Granted, they must have done something right to get where they are today, but in all honesty Linux is cheaper (despite the claims), more stable, and MUCH more "custom".

I rest my case.

Edit: Oh and Virus? My school was hit with a mac virus... The server went down and it's "Logic Board" failed. WTF is a logic board? Why can't "maccies" just call it a motherboard like everyone else? Oh and also, you have to be an idiot to get hit with a virus, there are plenty of free virus scan and protection suites out there (Try AVG Anti-Virus

[ This Message was edited by: nickorooster on 2005-03-05 00:13 ]

Posted by hogemeister
You're still at school. what age are you?


Posted by hogemeister
Why can't "maccies" just call it a motherboard like everyone else?

BECAUSE WE AREN'T LIKE EVERYONE ELSE........

We're different, think different, sell different, market different, design different, any one up for an argument?

Bring it on......

Posted by hogemeister
looks like it.s just me then,
ok, you got 2 choices when buying a computer...
you either go for the mercedes or the ford....

Posted by shyam335
Isnt the mac os's based on linux ? If its so why are they so ridiculous priced (for mac's)

Posted by Merovingian
here the Mercedes being a normal PC and NOT a mac-crap

EDIT: and may I comment something more.. for the price of a MAC you can a get a extreme gaming PC
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[ This Message was edited by: Merovingian on 2005-03-05 10:28 ]

Posted by nickorooster
EXACTLY. Macs aren't really crap, but you DON'T get nearly as much for your money as you do a PC. Sure, they may outperform PCs with the same specs, but you pay twice as much for those specs!

Oh and I'm 18. About to finish school (76 days from now).

Nick

Edit: Although I do believe that they are headed in the right direction with the affordably priced Mac Mini. I have decided that I will get a mac mini for my car, and use it as a jukebox etc on the move (that is when I can afford it ) Plus, I wouldn't run Mac OS on it either. Those crazy linux people managed to get a version of Red Hat running on the Mac Mini! Linux joyness!!

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Posted by hogemeister
Merovingian, where do you come from? can,t be this planet. open your eyes, ever seen an imac? sure you have, imacs outsold pcs worldwide when they came out, still do. Kinda car do you drive? Bet it's a henry ford...

Posted by Wazuki
Hiya people lets rename this thread in 'mac vs pc thread'. Lots of fun reading ya. Me standing for mac anyways.

Posted by rrojas260
Here in Venezuela nobody uses Mac, to see one in a store is pretty weird too! I see all this people complaining about windows but they keep it and no one of them changes to linux or mac or whatever.

I've been with windows all my pc-user life and i only had problems with it when i was too "noob" to know what was happening now i have more than a year without a single crash or virus (win xp, mcafee security 9.0, P4 3.0ghz, 1024mb RAM).

Posted by Merovingian
first of all, I am 16, second, I wish I was from Reach but unfortunatly I am from Earth.. third of all, I think MAC's are overprised shit computers... I would have to pay around 1800Ģ Brittish Pounds for a MAC with 2,5 GhZ, 512 RAM, 9600PRO 128 mb, 160 GB HDD... for that price I could have a PC with at least a AMD 3800+, GeForce 6800 GL, 1024 RAM, 300gb HDD and one of the newest mother board, so don't come here showing shit up my ears.. MAC's are way overprised for the features they have and they also do not support any of the games I play

EDIT: By the way, Volvos rule ! VOLVO S60 R

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Posted by amnesia
you can use Microsoft Virtual PC 7, install windows, then run the apps you want.
problem solved.

Posted by Merovingian
yeah, but here is one issue, I don't like macs, ipods or any other Apple crap

Posted by ThreeX
Yeah that really makes a lot of sense.. like buying a car and fitting it with remote control so you can drive it from your motorcycle..
Open your eyes Mac fans and smell the air. If Mac is Sooo superior *which they ainīt btw* how come 98 out of 100 home computers are PCīs running i386/Windows? Tell me that please. It has also been established time and time again that PCīs are at least as powerful as Macs. Yes i know everything about CPU architecture and Macs are more efficient and all that jazz, but the PC beats/equals it on pure muscle/CPU-speed anyway, so please, resume playing with your Macs, but donīt go on any Don Quixote crusades. You WILL lose
-period-
EDIT: Now that steam pressure is back to normal, i might add that i donīt have anything against Macīs at least not the post G3,OS X ones. I just would never dream of buying one at extortionate price just because itīs a Mac and will be beaten by a PC at 2/3 the price. And donīt even get me started on availability of games and applications.. Unless youīre on a unlimited budget, that factor alone rule Mac out as a sensible choice iīm afraid.

[ This Message was edited by: ThreeX on 2005-03-05 15:16 ]

Posted by Merovingian
@threex: Well said

Posted by mustafabay
@ThreeX
Actually the reason PCs are better than Macs is because something called choise. You know the thingy where you go to a store pick your motherboard, processor and everything else. And Apple probably was very early on opening an online ordering system, it stopped people from asking for ifries and a idiet icoke with their iMac
Actually I Macs are good for business but only if you have a PC too for games and stuff.

Posted by Gigs
Surprised Jools hasn't jumped on this thread.

Classic mac vs pc thread..

+1 for the PC's I say. We're not restricted in software, we don't have to run windows, and the systems are more cost effective.

The days of the beige box are over, PC's are VERY smart now a days.

I've had a long running history with Macs as well. Yes they DO have viruses, they're just not as media hyped as PC viruses due to mS being such a swiss cheese security vendor when it comes to their OS. but Windows != PC. (many other OS choices out there if you choose to go with it)

Emulating a PC on a mac isn't perfect, afaik full hardware emulation isn't available - ie you can't use the DSS 25 with it right? (When i've seen it in reverse it usually hasn't been the same either but theres still limited support for serial and parallel etc)

In the end its all personal choice, which ever works best for you is what is "the best choice" - the mac isn't mine. Think different? Please, every mac ive seen has been exactly the same.

Posted by Sage
Quote:

On 2005-03-05 01:02:22, hogemeister wrote:
Oh, wait a minute, can't say I've ever had a virus coming from a MACINTOSH OPERATING SYSTEM......

Who's the most hated man in the world(apart from George Dubya)? That'll be Mr Gates.

I rest my case......



Worst Arguement Ever.

Hackers/People who create viruses TARGET Windows because it is the most widespread operating system. Any OS under constant attacks like Windows will have more security flaws exposed opposed to an operating system not under current attack.

Besides that, if you are stupid enough to get a virus in the first place you deserve it.

So I'll put it simpler: If Mac was as popular as Windows, it would appear to be as insecure.

The most expensive PC in the world, I mean the best consumer PC in the world, would outperform the best mac in the world .

Don't believe me? Heres a sample

AMD FX-55

2 x Gainward 6800 Ultras 512 MB in SLi mode (yes, 512MB graphics card, and two of them in SLi mode means a whopping 1 GB of graphic )

4 GB of good RAM

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe nForce 4 MoBo

4 x Raptors in RAID 0

4 x Hitachi 400 GB in RAID 5

4 x 8 x DL DVD+-RW drives

Hauppauge WinTV-PVR500 MCE

Audigy 4 ZS Pro Soundcard

Vapochill Cooling

Get it? Tell me ANY Mac that can beat that? NO way in hell! For the price of the best Mac, you can get a PC that can do everything and more.

Please, don't be fooled, Macs really do suck


Posted by Sage
Quote:

On 2005-03-05 01:23:13, hogemeister wrote:
Why can't "maccies" just call it a motherboard like everyone else?

BECAUSE WE AREN'T LIKE EVERYONE ELSE........

We're different, think different, sell different, market different, design different, any one up for an argument?

Bring it on......



Ah! Brilliant! Being different! -_-

Although I do realise sarcasm is one of the lowest forms of wit, it is most appropriate here because it adequetly expresses your ignorance to reality, hypocracy, and lack of common sense.

Motherboards are called motherboards by convention, trying to change a convention, for the sake of being different, makes unnecessary confusion.

Granted, macs ARE different, so should use a different terminology, which explains the different jargon. They didn't "try" to be different.

Buying a mac for the sole purpose of being different, or even acknowledging your own deviance, proves that you are, in itself, NOT different. For if you were truly different, you would believe how you were is normal .

In otherwords, people who really deviate from the norms of society do so naturally, without realising it. People who try, are, well, posers who want to be different to attain attention from the society around them, which is, inadvertedly on your part, hypocitical, because deviating from society is connected to not acknowledging their acknowledgment or therin lack of your deviance.

Please, next time, know what you are talking about.

MACs have a lot of nice bells and whistles and a clean design that works for people like you, who are quite simply, posers.

"Think Different"? Give me a break. More like "Try to be Different" or "Give me Attention".

As far as graphics are concerned, the MACs use the motorola chip, which was designed around graphics, the PC around the intel chip, which was designed around maths. But maths can create graphics better than graphics can create maths , and in this day and age the phrase "Anything You Can Do I Can Do Better" really exemplifies the situation between PC vs MAC.

You do NOT market different. You market for money, period. So does Microsoft, get over it. Apple isn't the holy grail out to save you from the evil clutches and monopoly of Sir William Gates, they are out for your wallet, just like any other good business man is .

You are designed by a PC company btw, just wanted you to know that.

As for an arguement? What arguement? As far as I can tell you can barely manage to string words together to formulate coherent speech, so try not to worry your petty brain over such matters .

P.S. Apple charges over 160$ for a Logic Board that takes minutes to replace. Go figure.

Apple sucks, period. Anything a G5 Apple can do a PC for the same price can do the same or better, as well as more.

Congrats on your new toy btw

[ This Message was edited by: Sage on 2005-03-07 19:54 ]


Posted by Sage
Quote:

On 2005-03-05 13:31:00, hogemeister wrote:
Merovingian, where do you come from? can,t be this planet. open your eyes, ever seen an imac? sure you have, imacs outsold pcs worldwide when they came out, still do. Kinda car do you drive? Bet it's a henry ford...



You are joking right? IMacs outselling PCs? Are you INSANE!?!?! PCs probably own at LEAST 80% of the market share, if iMacs outsold them this wouldn't be true!

(P.S.: Sorry mods for the repeated posting, i cant copy/paste in firefox for some reason.)

Posted by clank
Adding my 2 bits i'll say i've never ventured into the mac world coz they're exorbitantly priced so as has been pointed out numerous times already in this thread, cost is a BIG factor for majority.

Posted by p900 lover
i my self would like a mac, just a small G4 laptop, i have my pc at home so all major work would be done on that, id only use the laptop 4 internet and travel.

Posted by hogemeister
You can't beat a good healthy argument.
Nice one sage..
Calmed down now?

Posted by Sage
a bit


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