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Posted by mustafabay
@tayam
The W550 comes with an html browser and if its not on the phone then it should be on the CD, but your browsning will be through GPRS. You say you univercity provides free connection to the internet but that is most likely through wifi which the W550 doesn't have.


Posted by omardeneo
As a phone I think it's better that alot of new models the signal quality is very good even in some places I always visiting the size is good the sound quality as I said very good

the setting goes in second I just download the operator setting via imate.com and start using every thing in a second

also if you need any support you can register for free in clubimate.com and start using online support and chat with any of them if you have any problem


also in clubimate.com you can download any updated rom for free

about the talking time I can say that I have at least 2 hours a day talking time and 15 minutes to check my e-mail or browse the internet using the gprs and about 10 minutes using the wifi and maybe another 10 minutes using the bluetooth and I still have 2 marks of the four marks of the battery meter

about the SP5 i didn't test it my self but when you compare the SP5m and SP5 you will find them the same the only different is the media player key for the spm5

(compare at gsmarena.com)


Quote:

On 2005-12-25 08:24:20, mahora wrote:
Thanks a million omardeneo for your very detailed and helpful reply.

One very important aspect of the SP5 that I need you to tell me about omardeneo is its performance and functionality as a regular phone. For instance did you have trouble setting it up in terms of GPRS, MMS, and EDGE?
I don’t know how things are where you come from, but where I come from technical support is almost inexistent and you have to do everything by yourself.
Did you by any chance happen to find an online source for setting up the phone?
Also did you happen to see and use the SP5 (not the musical edition) and if you did how does it compare to the SP5m?
U also said that you're heavy call maker and with that kind of usage the phone lasts 1.5 days. How long do these calls take in total duration? coz I'm a heavy calls maker myself.
And also how does GPRS usage affect the battery coz I use a lso of GPRS and IM too.
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[ This Message was edited by: mahora on 2005-12-26 09:37 ]



Posted by mustafabay
I thought you needed a smartphone with a touchscreen. What I'd personally like to know is how long you've used windows on a phone, imate hasn't been around that long. I'm not surprised that you found the SP5 faster than the SP3 as that is what you'd expect from WM5. Have you ever used any other smartphone or was it just dumb phone before you used windows?

Posted by omardeneo
maybe it's a missunderstand but actualy I'm using 2 phone lines 1 in the SP5m and the other one in my new PDA2

did you ask about the phones I used do you have time to count or just laughing

I used in the last 2 years (if I remeber will) the following:

Nokia: 6600, 6630, 6680, 6670, 9500 each one not more 1 week
Sony Ericsson: T610, T630, Z600, Z1010, K700i, K750i
Motorola: MPX200, E398, V525, V600, V3, E680i
I-mate: SP1, SP3, SP3i, SP5m (My Existing)
I-mate PPC: PPC 2003 Phone Edition, Jam, PDA2K, K-Jam(3days), PDA2 (my existing PPC)

Thanks for reply

now tell me did you still using the keypad or not



Posted by mustafabay
13 phones per year wow. I don't think I got that last question. And you should try UIQ its the only thing you haven't tried if you don't count blackberry.

Posted by mahora
That’s quite a collection, omardeneo. I guess it makes a very good judge on phones, whether dumb or smart
One interesting piece of info you can provide-considering your usage- is which do you think is better, Symbian or WM05? In terms of user convenience, functionality, and all the other aspects you can shed lights on.


Posted by mustafabay
Too bad you haven't used UIQ too.
Mahora, its WM 5.0 not '05
Back to omar so do you still have any of the phones you stated in your list or did you sell them all?

Posted by omardeneo
I like to test phones

also I'm trading on it specially Nokia because I don't like to use it

I think the WM is much better than Symbian, the most atractive thing is the way you search in the phone book you simply press the letters for any part you remeber of the first or last name and so

also the file browsing and pocket MSN and internet explorer

Yes I didn't try black berry before because the price in egypt is too high comparing with its price outside but realy I was thinking later to try it

any way sorry for wrighting too fast because there is a football match I would like to watch now but I'm ready for any questions

by the way I'm using now 2 lines, one with I-mate SP5m and the other in I-mate PDA2

Posted by omardeneo
I forgot to ask all of you a question.

Are you Egyptians outside Egypt or live in Egypt?

Posted by deido
HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL..........

Posted by mustafabay
Yes, happy new year to you all.

@omardeneo
I know I live in Egypt
But have you tried UIQ? And searching in the phonebook using multiple letters isn't really a cutting edge feature and most dumb phones either have it or will soon Microsoft isn't very good at making cutting edge features, heck it took them till IE7 to figure that tabbed browsing on PCs is nice, Firefox had it from day one and Opera has had it since what feels like the begining of time ( at least computer time).
I have no intension on trying a WM device soon but do hope that I manage to get a P990 soon with the new UIQ3. I try to stay away from Microsoft as much as I can because I usually prefer the underdog and I don't want what happenned in the PDA market to happen again in the mobile market.


Somebody tell me why I write an essay everytime I post a reply.....please

Posted by mahora
Inside Egypt I am
One (hopefully last question to you Omar, How about the build quality of the phones? I dealt With the big boys of the Imate family, but I never handled an Imate phone, at least not just yet.
Nokia and SE build solid phones, but how about Imate as far as phones are concerned? Are Imate phones as solid as Nokia or SE?

hAPPY nEW yEAR TO ALL
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[ This Message was edited by: mahora on 2006-01-02 11:27 ]

Posted by omardeneo
Happy new year all

I think I will try the RIM soon but its price in vodafone is too high comparing with it if I get it from USA

about the imate design I think i like its material and the design like I did before with SE K700, any way due to your location and you are in Egypt please feel free to test it any time or go to any Phono store and ask them to use it few seconds, any way just tell me your location and I will tell you the nearest Phono



Posted by mahora
@ Omar
You could make a nice career out of being a street guide
You don't happen to be one of those " a mobile minute for 50 piasters" guys, do you? And hence come your knowledge with street directions

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[ This Message was edited by: mahora on 2006-01-03 07:08 ]

Posted by omardeneo
Looooooooool

you are wrong my phone is I-mate so the minute will not be less than 75 P.T.

Also the other job you mentioned about street guide would be better if I start a new Taxi Project

now do you want be my partner? I will ask you to pay 95% and be the manager

Quote:

On 2006-01-03 07:16:56, mahora wrote:
@ Omar
You could make a nice career out of being a street guide
You don't happen to be one of those " a mobile minute for 50 piasters" guys, do you? And hence come your knowledge with street directions

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[ This Message was edited by: mahora on 2006-01-03 07:08 ]



[ This Message was edited by: omardeneo on 2006-01-03 17:19 ]

Posted by mahora
Nah I think I'll pass that investment coz you seem pretty moody, it's evident in your mobile usage

Posted by omardeneo
guys do you have any idea about a Pocket Messenger to use the yahoo messenger in my i-mate PDA2 WM2003SE via wifi

Posted by omardeneo
where are you guys i'm missing both of you

happy Eid

Posted by mustafabay
I'm in bed :-p I have an exam in less than 8 hours and should be asleep right now.

Posted by mahora
Happy Eid to all, though it's a bit late

Posted by drunkspy
guys im very very confused ,, i want a very good camera phone, i thought first about the k750 but then i found out N70 samples are better ,, but i feel something wrong with it tho ,, is it auto focus thing ? photos just blurr ? i think its with k750 too ,, but i have already k700 and its camera is not encourging me about sony ericsson but i dont know ,,, and hey i wanna ask also ,, how can i set the loud speaker , in my k700 so that i would just push a button when i get a call and it work , rather than opening a menu and so while the other person on line ,, ? thanks guys bu the way im egyptian too

Posted by mustafabay
Actually I just tried a K750 today and its brilliant anyone will and can tell you that the K750 takes better pictures than the N70. And the good thing is the price should be coming down soon, well atleast the used ones. The K750 has the best camera for shooting stills in Egypt but not for video. Also the K750 fells great and a lot better than the K700 imho.

Is it me or is Vodafone's GPRS down today?

Posted by mahora
The K750 along with its twin, the w800 are ranked the best camera phones on the scene so far. The N70 is "among" the best, but not no.1.
As for the K7 speaker thing, The speaker in the K7 doesn't have a dedicated button like in the Moto E398 or the Nokia 6020 etc. so you'll have to stick with it this way.

Posted by mustafabay
To ad to that about the activity menu might make it easier though but I'm not sure.

Posted by drunkspy
thank you guys ,, i saw many many samples of photos for both N70 and K750 , i see K750 photos are really better yes , plus k750 got much more reasonable price thanks guys

Posted by mustafabay
Yesterday the Ahram had an ad for motorola but it was systel advertising not deltek, systel hasn't advertised motorolas for a long time but what really shocked me was the prices. The RAZR was for LE1800 compared to Deltek's last advertised 1900. The real shocker was the ROKR E1, this one only had a 256MB card not 512MB bu still the price was LE1480, that's less than half the price for the W800 and is even about 2/3 the price of the W550. I know the E1 can't really compete with the Walkman since it doesn't have a good camera and all but what I'm really worried about is Deltek's sales strategy. Deltek never gradually drops the price like mobile phones do everywhere else in the world. High demand might stop the price going down fo a while but I don't think it does for ever and I don't think there is that high demand for SE or Moto in Egypt. Deltek will usually just chop off a chunk of the price instead of gradually dropping it. The K750 is currently for about 2700 but you might wake up tomorrow to find it 2100 and hence everything under it would go down. Just think how a person would feel if he found out that if he had waited for a few hours he could've paid LE500 less for the phone he just bought. Also people can't estimate when to buy a phone; if I for exaple thought I want the K750 but can only spend LE2400 so I will wait but since Deltek didn't gradually drop the price either I would get tired of waiting ( since there seems to be no patern for price movemnt) or Deltek would get less money from me because the price was once too high then it was lower than I was willing to pay not that I'd be happy but I could've bought it a month ago or something for a better price for them.
I just can't wait for another dealer for SE in other countries Itisalat sells other brands next to Nokia and one of them is SE i really can't wait.


Posted by mahora
The ROKR E1 case is not at all the responsibility of neither Deltek nor systel. The sales of the ROKR E1 worldwide were disappointing to Motorola contrary to what was expected. The reason of course lied in the comparatively low specs of the set. That’s why, for example, the price of the ROKR E1 was cut by 30% on T-mobile, USA, and even that action on the part of Motorola didn’t improve the sales of the set. So my guess is that the set’s price was decisively cut worldwide in order to get its marketing figures a little higher. So, so far, the ROKR E1 case is an individual occurrence.

Posted by omardeneo
check the motorola L7 with deltek it's about 1800 LE

Posted by ucik06
Just noticed your thread.Keep it up.

Posted by mahora
@ucik06
And who are you supposed to be Mr. "noticer"?

Posted by ucik06
Sorry,I didnt introduce myself.I am a Nigerian from Proudly Nigerian Forum.

Posted by mahora
Now you're talking, ucik06

Posted by deido
hi guys....what's up ? i have been away for a while but now i am back.....i missed u
anyways......would u buy a used phone with very good features ? or would u buy a new one with lower features ?
I am having now that siemens SX1 for a year and i want to change it....i think imate is the one but its too expensive unless i buy it used.......what do u guys think ??

Posted by mahora
Quote:

On 2006-02-19 18:18:31, deido wrote:
hi guys....what's up ? i have been away for a while but now i am back.....i missed u
anyways......would u buy a used phone with very good features ? or would u buy a new one with lower features ?
I am having now that siemens SX1 for a year and i want to change it....i think imate is the one but its too expensive unless i buy it used.......what do u guys think ??


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Welcome back, deido.
Why pnly those 2 options: used, but good/ or new but less good; why not good but new? That's what I'd do
Seriously speaking, the SP5m is currently priced at 3000 l.e., but the SP3i is sold for 2250 l.e., the difference being mainly the OS and WIFI support.
I don't know about used IMATES but I think if I buy a new Imate, I'd still worry about the warranty support, coz even with such widely spread models as Nokia, after sales service is horrible, so the point is, how worse can the service for such rare phones as Imate be?
I think my next phone will be Imate too, but still, I'll ahve to think too often about the poor service.

Posted by deido
well.....i got a friend who has PDA2K and another one who has PDA2...actually they are really nice phones....u wont need anything else beside them.........for the service, i don't know a dealer for them in Egypt...but there some other places where u can have some service for it...a friend of mine has changed the board of his Qtek phone.....

another thing is that nowadays i c a lot of ppl who use imate/Qtek phones....so it's spreading.....

Posted by mahora
If you're aiming at a pda, then Imate is your toy. The dealer is Phono.

Posted by omardeneo
don't count on phono or sama because they don't know any thing about imate they sell only and nothing after. also don't think to buy sp3i because it has a manufacturer broblem i recommend sp5m but if you need to use office apps then the kjam or pda2

Posted by deido
@omardeneo
have u used the Kjam before ? some friends told me that it has some problems ? is it ? and what about the imate jam (the black or the white ones), any opinions ?


[ This Message was edited by: deido on 2006-03-01 10:28 ]

Posted by mahora
Quote:

On 2006-03-01 02:54:00, omardeneo wrote:
don't count on phono or sama because they don't know any thing about imate they sell only and nothing after. also don't think to buy sp3i because it has a manufacturer broblem i recommend sp5m but if you need to use office apps then the kjam or pda2


Those were exactly my doubts

Posted by mustafabay
Compume used to be the imate dealer for imate in Egypt. But a while ago I read in Alahram that sama, which was recently bought by Raya, got the dealership for imate and Sagem in Egypt. So I guess you'd go for the company that issued the warranty.

Posted by omardeneo
Yes I already have the K-Jam from 10 days it's a good device and the new rom is better than the old one

the black jam is good but the style and material quality is not as good as the K-Jam

the only problem with the k-jam which is same problem of all WM 5.0 devices is the running programs must be closed from time to time (every day for example) to make your device faster

but the K-Jam is good my previous openion was diff. because I thought that the size of the screen won't fit my excel sheets and the processor will be weak but really after using the device I like it

at least when you compare with JasJar in the size K-Jam is better

I used the JasJar 6 days but I think carrying my laptop is better




Posted by mahora
Congrats, man
One question though, why didn't you consider a WM smatphone instead, is it the screen?

Posted by omardeneo
who said I don't. I'm already using both K-Jam and SP5m with my two lines and the 3rd line in motorola v600

Posted by deido
Quote:

On 2006-03-15 23:56:00, omardeneo wrote:
who said I don't. I'm already using both K-Jam and SP5m with my two lines and the 3rd line in motorola v600


just for my knowledge, when u go out of ur home, how many mobiles do usually carry with you ???? ( and where ?)

Posted by mahora
Quote:

On 2006-03-17 10:31:14, deido wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-03-15 23:56:00, omardeneo wrote:
who said I don't. I'm already using both K-Jam and SP5m with my two lines and the 3rd line in motorola v600


just for my knowledge, when u go out of ur home, how many mobiles do usually carry with you ???? ( and where ?)


I think you'll know instantly know him when you get to see him, coz you'll just recognize him out of his swollen pockets, and hansets dropping all over and around

[ This Message was edited by: mahora on 2006-03-20 14:53 ]

Posted by omardeneo
Quote:

just for my knowledge, when u go out of ur home, how many mobiles do usually carry with you ???? ( and where ?)



why are you planing to steal one of my mobiles

l@@k

I have 3 lines the 1st one in the K-Jam, the 2nd in SP5m and the 3rd in motorola V3 RAZR but in the morning I use the k-jam and sp5m only and after work i carry the k-jam and the razr

Posted by deido
@mahora...
i know u r into these windows smartphones..... i saw this video review about the SP5, and i thought that u'll be intereseted in it

http://pocketnow.com/media/pilotsp5.wmv

tell me ur feedback....



[ This Message was edited by: deido on 2006-03-22 11:01 ]

Posted by mahora
Thanks a million deido for the video, in fact it confirmed my own impressions about the pros and cons of the phone that I already checked on mobile-review.
While on the one hand the reviewers confirm the build quality, design, screen, etc as obvious pros, on the other hand they also confirm – in my opinion- the killer cons. To me, those are mainly:
-Bluetooth compatibility (whether as a gprs modem or for more common file exchange purposes.)
- The MS docs viewers, it’s so disappointing to have a WM5 phone and not have means of viewing office docs.
- A special concern of mine is about the WiFi. The specs of the SP5 claim an 802.11b module. As far as I know, the “b” protocol is the oldest among WiFi protocols, on the other hand, the “g” protocol is by far more widely spread and also the “g” is compatible with the older “b” protocol. My concern is: WiFi providers might have or might already be replacing hardware to be compatible with the more spreading protocol, the “g” protocol. So that’s another disappointment waiting to blast in your face when you’re sitting in a place you know to be WiFi covered, but OOPS, the protocol your phone supports is outdated.
Maybe someone else can share some other thoughts out loud with us.
As for the other concerns the reviewer pointed out, to me they’re minor, little things you get used to.


Posted by omardeneo
mahora you won't find any wifi G only all the G wifi will be b/g compatible so this is not a big issue

the design of the sp5m is better than sp5 even the style

the bad point in this 2 phones as every body said and in my opinion too is the missing of any office viewer we really need

any way I think we will soon find a 3rd party software for that issue


[ This Message was edited by: omardeneo on 2006-03-23 11:24 ]

Posted by mahora
Do you mean there is no (or there can’t be) a phone with a wifi “g” only module? Don’t you think the SP5’s incompatibility with the “g” protocol a big minus?
As for the design, I personally prefer the SP5's more professional and stricter outlook, but the last time I checked, the SP5m was the only version available at Phono's.
One more thing I read somewhere about the aluminum of the sp5m, it wears out or something, you might want to dig out more on that matter.

[ This Message was edited by: mahora on 2006-03-23 16:14 ]


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