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Posted by mahora
Unfortunately I can't share your humor on the matter. Some of my friends are asking about this mobile, and since they consider me a little "knowledgeable" as far as telecom issues are concerend, they simply ask whether it was a good phone or not and the features it has. I can't provide a sufficient answer. What do I say to people? That the people who brought it into the country do not know? how ridiculous

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Posted by americany13
I got my K750i from NY for $475 +8% tax......ASHTA YA NASS DE GAMED TU7N. going from k700 to k750i is like from t610 to k700. had to drive 3 hours to NY to pick it up.

Posted by mahora
That good huh? What are the differences from a k700?

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Posted by mustafabay
@americany
Mabrook ya man
@mahora
And they consider you to be Knowligable? You can tell them that the f500 is as good K500 and they should pick the one that they think looks better, that's of course if Deltek isn't selling the K500 for a higher price.
As for K750, well the changes are very minor. Screen same resolution but 262k, about same memory but also memory stick duo pro slot, supporting up to 2GB and 4GB when they make them. Camera only takes absolutely amazing photos compared to the K700 and 2MP size too. You also get a little bit better radio, better looking phone, bluetooth v2.0, and support for bluetooth java midlets. And another cool thing is you don't need a cradle the bundled cable does it all, even charges the phone through the USB port. And a bigger battery Can't think of anything else that's really important. So basically if you think the K700 is great then I don't know a word good enough for the K750.
The only downside is that I'm not going to be able to afford it and I'm going to end up choosing between a K700 and K550, when that comes out.

Posted by mahora
@mustafabay
My last post was a reply to your last "humorous" post on the so-called f-500 matter. Assuming you're right that this phone is a k506, of which there's only the chinese version, then it's obvious that people who buy this phone might be faced with unnecessary "chinese" changes to the fw to fit the chinese language, the extent of which we have no knowledge of. For example, the k700c's firmware deleted an important feature found in the k700i used for contacts management (autosave on sim when new contact is saved). That's just an example. So if we can't make up our minds about the identity of that phone, people might get disappointed in what they get for no reason other than the fix that Deltech put us in with their inaccuracy and lack of proper knowledge. Hoe else can you give people advise unless based upon the right "knowledge". The "right" Knowledge is power you know. The delimmea is even more confusing if you know the fact that Deltech still sells the k500i for 1620 l.e. so we're talking about a 600-l.e. difference.
Got it or you need more clarification???


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Posted by sapporobaby
Salaams. I am not Egyptian but I love Egypt. Does this count?

Posted by mahora
@sapporobaby
It counts as good as it could ever could be, a warm welcome to the Egyptian forum

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[ This Message was edited by: mahora on 2005-05-26 20:37 ]

Posted by mustafabay
@sapporobaby
Hi there.

@mahora
But since k500, 506 and 508 are all the same hardware and only differ in the firmware and looks, so I don't think deltek would be stupid enough to sell a phone with chinese. Although if the k500s is still 1620 I'd like someone to tell me if there is a more stupid company go the world.



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[ This Message was edited by: mustafabay on 2005-05-28 12:29 ]


Posted by mustafabay
Well we might actually get a benifit from not getting SE phone very quickly. might upgrade the camera on the K750 in July to a CCD sensor plus better software. Of course we also could be stuck with all the old K750 with CMOS that no one would want.

Posted by vegetaleb
I would not be so optimistic about the ccd lens,it could be out only in september not july.
anyway you too in Egypt have SE dealers that bring a model 1 month after the dubai release?
leych hel wasta ma3 dubai?
Do you know that all our SE phones come from Dubai?

Posted by mustafabay
I don't exactly know when we got the K700. It was either August or november so optimism is good because its probably going to be the same story again. We didn't get the K300 yet.

Posted by mahora
The k7 was introduced to Egypt in November. The Deltech ad. was first posted on Al Akhbar's Saturday weekly issue of Nov. 06, 2004

Posted by mahora
Good news guys:
Sony Ericsson to announce more phones
http://www.mobiletracker.net/[....]5/27/sony-ericsson-more-phones



Posted by mustafabay
Well actually that just tells us that we are going to get more phones but doesn't tell us what. But we already know what some of the new phones look like
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=93315

Posted by mahora
The point is SE is finally explicitally showing ambition, looking forward to being 3rd worldwide mobile manuf., that's the real good news



[ This Message was edited by: mahora on 2005-05-30 10:14 ]

Posted by mustafabay
Yes, I guess if you're looking at it that way then the news is really nice. Actually I would put as 3rd in Egypt after Nokia and Samsung, but then the gap is quite huge. A nice aspect of aiming for no.3 is that they'll start putting more effort into other markets since it seems to have attained a strong place in western Europe. That means a little attention will be given to us, we are a pretty big market afterall, but then they might concentrate more on places like Asia first.
To tell the truth I'll only start feeling optimistic when gets a second dealer in Egypt. And NOT Ring. I've heard their service isn't great and their devision Connect is clueless. They advertise the D500 to have only 32MB more than it actually does.

Posted by mustafabay
I guess this is the slow season. No phones, no nothing. I have an Exam on thursday and I'm sick

Posted by mahora
Hey, it's been a while, sorry to hear that you're sick, and the exams and all, but those days will pass too... get well soon

Posted by tarekf
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Hey all, anyone try out the D500.. its amazing.. works wel in egypt but wish vodafone egypt supported edge because i found out a way to get the d500 working on edge.. too bad..

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Posted by mustafabay
@mahora
Thanks. I'm feeling better now but then my exam is tomorrow well its not that bad actually

@tarekf
Salams. You're first post here and you look like an advertisement Why don't you just put it in you're signature? Also I doubt any of us are going to buy a D500 soon

Mobinil says today in Alahram that it's going to introduce EDGE soon so you might want to change to Mobinil. I think Vodafone will skip EDGE and go for 3G some time soon, like around 2007.
And just because any company is going to offer EDGE doesn't mean they will offer cheaper prices for data. They'd probably charge more.

Posted by mahora
@tarekf
How was it that you managed to get the D500 to use Edge? Doesn't that need to be a built-in thing in the phone? or is it like push-to-talk, i.e., a software that can be installed separately?

Posted by tarekf
there is a "secret code" to enter the gprs menu.. look in howard forums for it cuz i forgot it.. if i find it again i will let you know..

hey.. .sorry.. didn't mean to look like an ad.. but it realy is a cool station.. just discovered it.. its new..

but guys the d500 is an amazing phone. .go for it.. best samsung out there. until the d600

Posted by tarekf
o i forgot to mention.. the D500 is identical to the D500E except for software.. the D500E has edge.. hence the E.. but the only difference is the software to enable it.. the D500 has that ability but only via secret menu.. its still being questioned if it truly is edge.. but the results show that it is an edge connection

Posted by mahora
And where is that D500E sold, geographically I mean?
And can that software be downloaded to the normal D500? And has anyone really tried Edge on it? your feedback is truly appreciated.

Posted by tarekf
D500E is sold in Italy.. and is beginning to appear online.. u can download the D500E firmware and buy the serial cable for the D500 and flash it on your fone.. many ppl have done that.. and it also adds voice dialling capabilities to ur phone which is great.

Posted by mustafabay
Now that is really wierd, have two phones with same hardware but one have EDGE disabled. But really, is EDGE worth it. Today in Al ahram Voda had an ad for its data services and man are they expensive. LE15 per MB when you don't pay anything, which I don't know if that means you pay extra for data services on post paid or LE15 is for pre-paid. And do you really need EDGE?
And regarding the D500, while it is a great phone, but its Samsungs first, have been great for a long time And the upcoming phones from are said to have EDGE, like S500(aka Ellen), but we'll see on the 13th. Another thing is Samsung don't have any good candybar phones and the D500 would be too small for me anyways. And another BIG factor is most Samsungs are silver clamshells which make me think of them as a brand for Ladies. And if D500 is good, then K750 is just too good to be true, but then it is


Posted by tarekf
EDGE is really cool because it is much faster than GPRS.. and GPRS isn't that expensive at all.. normal usage won't even get u 1mb in a month.. its quite cheap compared to a lot of other places aorund the world. Any vodafone subscriber is allowed to sign up for vodafone live which charges 15 LE for 1 MB of usage.. and minimum charge is 10 kb.. if u check ur email and go to a bunch of sites using the google xhtml version which simplifies sites.. u will only get up to maybe 500k.. its quite cheap when u think of it that way..

hey.. any of u live in toronto that are egyptians?

Posted by mustafabay
Well, I don't live in toronto. I don't think mahora does either. And I only check Esato on wap, but I must say it goes through my credit so easily. And LE15 is NOT cheap. In india its almost free, or just a flat rate and you don't get charged by MB. Some carriers in the UK have cheap/free GPRS so LE 15, although I think I'm charged LE20/MB, is way too much.

Posted by mahora
@ Tarekf & mustafabay
Remember guys that it's only been a little over just a couple of years since GPRS has been introduced to Egypt, so carriers still try to have their ROI (Return On Investment) out of it. The only way GPRS is gonna get cheaper is when a newer technology is introduced, letting the old one grow out of use by time. So EDGE is not a bad idea after all. EDGE is also good for downloads, especially huge ones that the coming generation of phones will allow (especially those with hard drives)
& @mustafabay
I see nothing wrong in Samsung. I think you have to respect the no. 2-to-be worldwide mobile manuf. (They already have taken out Motorola in Q2, 2004, and Nokia in US market mobile sales in the whole of 2004). You have to understand their mentality, then you'll get to respect them. Their strategy is simple: work with what you have, then what you don't will then work for you. What they had was the ultra-huge Asian market. They were clever enough to realize that if they made it in that market, then they will have a shot at the world title. And they did. It's like a boxing match, if you work with your weakness and turn it into a strength, then your Unstoppable. And they're not. Why do you think, Samsung is not YET concentrating on Candybar phones in their portfolio? Simple. They're just not yet in full gear for the no.1 position. They know it and are working on it. When they're are, they will sweep everything else in the way. For the past years they have been eating away from the manuf. on top of them little by little. They're letting themselves grow on the world. Then when the right time comes, and with huge backup from the Undeterred Asian market place, they will take out everbody else, especilayy those who keep goofing around with the tastes and needs of their customers like Nokia.
Those were the objective aspects why I think you should change your views concerning Samsung. Subjectively speaking, and since I know you have big hands , take a look at the killer called Samsung Thor (They got that right ) or Samsung I300. It simply kills. Windows Mobile 05 (Magneto), a 3-GB microdrive, and a nicely fit 1 mega pixel camera. Now for its looks, Compare its looks with its Nokia rival the so-called N91. I leave the judgement to your taste.
Just this fast comparison tells you where both companies are going.

Posted by mahora
A closing remark that I forgot, but deserves a place of its own. I have no bias for or against any specific manuf. My previous phone was a Nokia, my current is an SE, and my next might be Samsung.
Again, The point is Nokia lead themselves to losing me, SE earned themselves a customer when they satisfied my current needs with the k7, and Samsung might as well acquire a tiny addition to their market share if they deliver and come up with the Thor

Posted by mustafabay
I've seen I300 and unfotunately fogot what Thor looks like. I don't really share your or anyone's enthusiasm for Magneto. So far MS smartfone OSes have been resoce hogs and most phones have failed to be really responsive. I don't think a hard drive in a phone is a good idea. I'm going to wait a while till HDD phones actually hit the market and then maybe I'll change my opinion. When I first started to get interested in mobiles a liked almost all phones and had no preferences. But then looking at what companies had to offer and their stategies I was hooked to SE. At first I was a die hard SE fan, but I'm learning to respect other companies if the y produce something good. Nokia is coming out of a slump and their products for this year seem impressive. Samsung on the other hand, I really can't feel that much respect towards. I feel Samsung mainly just spits out model with almost identical looks and similar specs. While the D500 is one of the best Samsung has ever made I can't tell it from a E800, E810 or E830 and I don't really know their spec differences, the Es that is. With SE they make a good phone for each segment and khalas. A really nice company I think is imate, they seem reliable and stick to their plans, unlike Samsung who have the tendency to announce a lot of phones and cancel half of them. If I wanted a HDD smartphone I'd wait for the imate SP4 or what ever their going to call it, and I wouldn't think the wait will be too long.

Posted by mustafabay
Welcome the new S600. I just hope it doesn't take too long to get here because I'm definaitely going to buy it. And it has EDGE,for those who need it.

Posted by mahora
Bear in mind that Samsung reached the 3rd world ranking with the line that you've been whining about. Seamingly you missed the point I was trying to make " work with what you have, then what you don't will work for you". The D500 marks a new era for Samsung, and aslo marks a different strategy towards the worldwide mobile telecom market. It may come as a surprise for you that it's the first Samsung phone with bluetooth!
And why would you think that a hard drive in a phone is not a good idea? It's simply the next step for mobiles. And yes you will definately change your opinion because it's going to be the trend, and obviously you can't stand in the face of a tidal wave.
And now for MS smartphones. what operating system does your computer have?!
When Nokia first came up with smartphones, there was this "ooh, who's gonna do with such phones?"
And now, the smartphone segment is eating away from all other segments like wild fire. It's even forcing Nokia to terminate certain platforms and be replaced by them (Series 40 for example).
MS phones are the future for mobiles. As simple as that. MS OS will dominate and take out everything else by 2010. They will be the vogue that no single operator can miss. You can't fight progress. Remember the base they have, 9 out of 10 of the worlwide computer users are familiar with MS Windows. Powerful ratio.
Finally for the imate. That's another totally different talk. It's a totally different ball game. And just bear in mind that smart phones are to also take out PDAs by 2008.


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Posted by mustafabay
1. Sometimes working with what you have is good, but copying a design over and over again is just pushing it.
2. I will change my mind on HDD in phones once I'm 100% sure that dropping my phone off the table won't mean I'm going to need a new phone and that the HDD isn't going to eat up the battery.
3. I don't think MS OS will dominate anytime soon and not even by 2010. While smartphones are still selling less than regular phones and you could say that their share is increasing, I think regular phones will still have a big if not bigger share in the market for a long time to come. You obviousely aren't 100% aware of what got announced tody. Nokia announced some phones using 3rd generation of S40 using QVGA screens, obviousely they didn't see much future for their square 208x208, so S40 has every chance to get strong again vs.S60. Also I think the K750 is then last 220x176 in its class from . With companies increasing their screen resolutions and sizes I think people will be looking more at "dumb" phones again espesially if their specs start maching those of smartphones. And MS will not win easily nor soon. Remember another thing about Windows, people prefer it because it plays games and has more eyecandy. MS mobile doesn't have the eyecandy. Some day when governments crush down on piracy we'll switch to Linux. We mostly use pirated versions of software. Another thing in Linux is its getting easier to install, which is the main hurdle, and is getting more eyecandy and user friendly. Another thing MS widows is losing is games. While the past year brought very few good games to the PC, consoles had tons of great games. MS and Sony are going to try their best to get us gaming on their consoles. Another thing is that with a console is you don't have to upgrade your graphics card every other year to play games, not to mention your RAM, processor and motherboard. And this isn't my opinion alone, its mostly from Hatim Kantawalla's collumn in PC Mag this month, that's regarding PCs and gaming. I sincerely think MS is going to have a lot to deal with in the coming years. Although at the end of the day or decade I think we'll have the best anyone has to offer whether MS or any other rival.

Posted by mahora
- They have been pushing it, and you know what? It’s working, otherwise they wouldn’t be ranking 3rd, going on for 1st.
- If you’re so worried about device durability, then why bother with all the modern gadgets. Buying gadgets means you give credit to those who built them, otherwise why pay the money? Wanna play it safe? Get a G-shock everything.
- The reason why MS will dominate the scene for smart mobiles is that MS will set its heart to winning this market, after the global saturation with the worldwide market for PCs. Just read between the lines in the press release for Magneto here: http://www.microsoft.com/pres[....]y05/05-10WindowsMobile5PR.mspx

- Nokia only announced (1) phone running S40, not “some phones”. It’s one of the last breaths in a dying corpse. Compare how many S40 phones are released every Q to the S60 phones, then you'll know where things are going. For more info, check the impressions here: http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia6230i-en.shtml

As for how far MS is willing to go, check here: http://insight.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,39020463,39197792,00.htm
, and here: http://www.mobilepipeline.com/47902950
- Don't brag much about using pirated versions of s/w, otherwise you'll be legally liable. And Linux? it's still in its cradle, and it will take a very long time for it to go up against the 9/10 giant. Anyone with proper judgement can see that.
- And games? Come on


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Posted by mustafabay
-Ok I understand what Samsung is doing and I can see its working. All I'm stating is why I don't really like it as a brand in total.
-On HDDs in phones. Yes, any electronic device of yours can break if it falls. But HDDs have moving parts and are even more liable to break. I don't drop my phone that often but a couple of falls maybe all it takes.And saying that its going to be like a tidal wave is quite wrong. How many Gadgets can you name with HDDs, I wouldn't call a laptop a gadget.

-MS will push magneto a lot, that's one thing for sure. What I'm trying to say is sartphones are loosing their edge over 'dumb' phones. MS magneto is going to work on QVGA screens in upcoming smartphones like I300. QVGA is a really high resolution on 1.8"-2.2" screens but is Magneto going to be the only OS to run on that resolution? NO. Afew months back when it seemed that 208x208 was the way to go for s40 you could clearly see that nokia was going to push s60 a lot more than s40 espesially in the mid-high segment. Now nokia has announced two phones on the new s40 with QVGA screens. I think 208x208 will be left for low end phones and for that part of the market a screen like that would look brilliant.
Smartphones started out for professionals and are going back to being for professionals. You might see that as a funny statement but there are signs. Ask yourself, what does an average person see in a smartphone? I think he mostly sees big good screen and multimedia capabilities. And I see 'dumb' phones doing just well with improving their multimedia capabilities. Nokia signed an agreement with MS to put Mediaplayer in Nokia's phones, while I don't know if its going to be solely for smartphones I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't.

-I din't brag about using pirated software. I actually hate piracy. The fact is that almost every PC in Egypt has some pirated software on it. Big companies and people that have deep pockets might be an exception but most Egyptians use pirated software and that is a fact. Even people that buy their PCs through, hasiib likol beit, sure they get an original copy of windows and maybe office ,but then what? Their friends tell them they need an antivirus and so on and offer to bring them their HDD. What I do believe is MS should reduce their prices and make their product regionalised like DVDs. After regionalising and reducing their prices they'll need to start public awareness then finally come down on piracy. Abroad when you buy a certain amount of hardware, say a motherboard, cpu and ram not even a whole PC, you are liable for an OEM copy of windows. An OEM copy would cost you aprox. $99 whole a copy off the shelf would cost $199-$299. Obviousely in a country where an expensive PC is considered to start at LE4000, howmany would know and even bother about an OEM copy of windows costing LE600 if the shop is willing to give you everything you want free of charge. MS is going to have to work with the price and mentallity. I don't think having to activate windows is the answer. I think regionalising the ditrubutions and pricing each region acourding to its economy. Regions don't have to be geographic.

-So you don't take gaming seiousely. I know here in Egypt computer gaming started later than other places in the world like the US so the generation that grew up playing computer games is younger and we still consider games for kids. Once people my age grow up I think the mentality will change. Anyways, we all know everything in this world is about money. Did you know that the biggest one day sales in the history of entertainment record is held by a game, Halo 2; $125 million in one day. And you'll laugh at me for bringing up gaming. Last year didn't bring many good PC games, the only big ones were Doom3 and Half-Life 2 and Splinter cell. And Doom3 was only about graphics. And in the RTS area there were only Warhammer 40000 and Rome: total war, and still they aren't as good as people want, RTS being strictly PC based. On the other hand consoles seemed to have tonnes of great games last year.
You also don't seem to know about the amount of money gamers put into the PC market. Extreme gamer are a target for almost every company in the world. Afterall gamers are all about bragging rights and getting higher framerates. But if console makers keep on attracting the good games, PC gamers might get tired of the constant upgrading their hardware with ever more expensive hardware and not getting the great games they expected to play, the logical sequence is to get a console and get back gaming. Of course this always means PC equipment makers will invest more in gaming producers to make great games and regain their costumers. The final result is an even bigger gaming based industry which you currently don't take seriousely.
And another thing, Sony has failed to launch their PSP in Europe and then eventually MEA because the demand is so high in the US and Japan. Even worse for me is this high demand is the price is going to take fo ever to go down to the price they had originally planned to sell the PSP at slightly under $200. Sony has sold more than 5 million PSP since its release and is considering getting a taiwanese ODM to produce the PSP to help cope with demand.

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Posted by mahora
I understand the background from which your views are coming from. Yet, it's not a matter of personal opinions and speculation, it's a matter of marketing, and industry evolution. Check out the following and try to discover the future trends of the mobile telecom industry:
(If the graphs don't show up, refer to links provided)


[ This Message was edited by: mahora on 2005-06-21 00:47 ]

Posted by mustafabay
I'm not against EDGE if you think I am. Its just that the jump to UMTS seems more reasonable. EDGE will give you more bandwidth than GPRS but not much more. You could probably stream video on EDGE but that would be the max. I don't know how big of an investment EDGE is compared to 3G, but EDGE is basically only a stepping stone and 3G will eventually prevail as a standard for a longer time, and I'd think the return on investment would be higher.

I'm mostly against MS for a good reason. Any market needs competition. Look at the PDA market, Palm OS is definaitely the better OS with it needing less resoces and being easier to use. But what made MS sucsessful was it pushing more multimedia functions and making its OS make sense for people to use. In the phone market it seems companies are giving consumers almost everything the want without being OS sensitive. Even non smartphones can have Java apps so I don't see the need for everyone to go windows, well not everyone just most of us. I want Linux to get stronger in PC so MS will stop being so sloppy with its Windows and ship it with a lot less security holes.

Posted by mahora
EDGE triples the normal speed you get with ordinary GPRS. The cost is limited to making some minor s/w & h/w changes on the BSC & BTS levels. Operator driven studies have indicated that for a GSM operator to upgrade a GPRS capable network for EDGE working is approximately 7 - 15% of total initial GSM investment.
So in comparison to 3G, which requires drastic replacements to the already existing network, it seems a pretty viable solution.
But after all, we'll see how things finally unfold.

Posted by mustafabay
Yes I agree it does give you three times the bandwidth of GPRS. An important point about 3G is each BTS can support 5 times as many users, there for in crouded areas like any downtown area the number of BSTs required is a lot smaller. Another thing is 3G brings a lot of services that be worth advertising like video calling and downloads and all, but espesially video calling. I know that people won't use video calling much just like people used MMS a few times at the begining and then went back to SMS, but you're advertising something completly new. Anything new means headsets and I think maybe finally, contracts. When you look at EDGE you use it if your phone supports it but you wont likely go out of your way to get an EDGE equipted phone, you might look for EDGE if your thinking of a new phone however. I have no idea why I'm siding with the marketing side when their job is to get us to pay as much money as humanly possible, maybe 3G afterall is "higher tech"

Posted by Clearday
Hi to all Egyptian brothers...


(good to see you in Esato forum)

Posted by mahora
@Mustafabay
I think I have a possible answer to the question that you asked yourself at the end of the last post without finding the right answer: may be it's just your teen years that make you a "rebel without a cause" (with all regards to James Dean, if your're a fan of old movies and legends).
@Clearday
welcome to visitors from the beatiful country of Turkey.


[ This Message was edited by: mahora on 2005-06-16 18:11 ]

Posted by Clearday
thanks mahora and other mates...

We Turks like to be here with you, I just want to say a warm "hi" to our brothers...anyway nowadays I very much think to buy a Nokia 7710, what do you think about it?


regards.

Posted by mustafabay
@Clearday
Of course you and all your friends and even all of Turkey are welcome here.
You should guess what we'd say about the 7710. Almost every review of the phone says the same thing. Its a great phone, or good depending on your brand preferences , but it has a few short comings. The most important thing is its slow. Read the review at mobileburn.com. I remember a funny and annoying feature, you can double tap on the bluetooth icon to turn off the bluetooth, nice but their is no easy way to turn it back on . I think of it as a good attempt at an unclear goal with quite a few shortcomings and unbaked ideas. If a touch screen is what you want there are quite a few other options, UIQ from SE and Motorola or windows from mostly HTC(imate or QTek or whatever). If nokia comes out with a sucsessor I think it will be a lot better. If you want to be somewhat unique, you'll get what you want. I'd say try it first if possible and see if you can live with its speed or the lack of it.

@Mahora
Rebelious teen Somewhat possible although rebelious is something you'd find hard to notice if you actually knew me. And teen is no longer valid for me The best time of our lives I discovered to be in thanawiya 3amah, boy that was a long time ago Oh yeah I remeber I belong to a group of rebels fighting the dominance of nokia espesially in Egypt.

Posted by Clearday
mustafabay, well-done explanation,thanks.

Posted by mahora
@Clearday
We never got to know your reasons for choosing the 7710 in the first place?...

Posted by mahora
Any rumors on K750i successor? Just curious...

Posted by Clearday
for internet like computer face...

Posted by mustafabay
K750 sucsessor ? Well we have to be lucky first and get the K750

Yhe only thing we know, or think to know, is what Eldar Muratzin said about it. He said not to expect it on the market till near the end of 2006. He also gave it a nickname, U2, like the WWII german submarine. He says its that dangerous to all other competiing companies.
We can still expect a K800 though. K800 should be a 3G version of the K750 with a front camera and hopefully a CCD 2MP sensor on the back. Of course we have yet to see the S700 replacement, Sakura(if I have the rumors understood correctly), and we're expecting a 3MP sensor in it among other things. If SE can make the K750's sucsessor have the same or stronger effect on the market in comparison to K750 then it'll be great.
So many rumors were flying around before this month's announcement and most of them were mind blowing. That's if a rumor can do that to you. Nemesis is a phone to look forward to if its ever going to make it and its not just a research-like project. They even were saying Nemesis would be the name of the phone. SE-NSE.com seems to have the most people that have sources for SE rumors currently. So if you want to know the rumors check it out. I think you only have to register if you want to post.

Posted by mahora
I now remember what Eldar said at the end of the k750 review. So it seems the k750 is gonna be SE's major player for quite a long time to come, not that this is a complaint or anything. And yes I think it's gonna be named k800, because milestone phones of the like deserve Centennial recognition. Though, the thing I hate about multiplying the power of the camera in phones is that the pic gets to be so heavy. the k750 shoots a pic of between 300-500 kb. that's an enormous size if it's sent as an MMS or uploaded to the internet. But then we will be needing EDGE, won't we?
&@ clearday
I think a pc-like appearance is better achieved through a pda. Most pdas are upright in alignment, have the same big screen you're looking for, and are worth the trouble of carrying such huge gadgets. I don't think the 7710 is worth the trouble in that respect.


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