Posted by themarques
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Jan2005/9021.htm
Ok so this article is saying that they will release the V800 on O2 3G on the 1st of Feb...I am anxiously waiting to see this..
Posted by gbrooks3
Wow, excellent news, i wonder if o2 will brand it? Going on previous phones i think not.
Posted by themarques
The price plans are a bit high, but then hey they will not have a walled garden like 3 so well done.
Posted by goldenface
That's excellent news. Minimal branding on a V800 on O2. My next handset. :-D
Posted by Superluminova
woo hoo, just what i've been waiting for
Posted by alexho
i can't wait! Come on O2!
Posted by govigov
Good news. :-)
Posted by Miss UK
o2 fixed there SONY ERICSSON prob out then
Posted by scotsboyuk
There were three things about this article, which I found most interesting:
O2 mention that they will be procuring future handsets, in part, from NTT DoCoMo. Perhaps the UK is set to get more Japanese style handsets, let's hope so.
O2 appear to have rather poor 3G network coverage; the article states that they are aiming for 50% coverage by June 2005, which means that their current coverage must be under 50%. It might be wise for anyone considering purchasing an O2 3G handset to check that they are within O2's 3G coverage.
The V800 is, rather annoyingly, not listed in the chart of handsets that accompanies the tariffs. It might be that the V800 won't be avilable right away, or perhaps O2 simply haven't decided on a price for it yet.
Posted by Vlammetje
i am most interested to hear that O2 chooses to go live with a 3G network that can not at all compete with the coverage that their competitors offer.
Who would take out an O2 3G subscription knwoing that?
Posted by babysmile
erm.. guys with using O2, I think there is no network since morning. My O2 line is not have a single bar... Is it really they will done better on 1 Feb??
:sob:
Posted by goldenface
@Vlam The coverage should be a lot better before the end of the year. By which time there should be some nice NTT DoCoMo 3G handsets from SE and Fujitsu to complement the range as well, with iMode.
Posted by ghostfreak
I would be interested in getting the V800 if it was released on o2.
Posted by goldenface
Yeah. vodas branding put me off getting one last time. Why do they have to do it?
Posted by themarques
Well lets not get our hopes up high, take a look at the O2 X4 and lets hope thats not the branding they will give the V800.
Posted by Vlammetje
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Oh good... only 11 months away
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NTT DoCoMo brands and locks their sets though... you'd do wise to investigate a little how O2 will be selling those
Posted by Dyce9984
I think their new 3g (same as GPRS) contracts are because they don't have much 3g coverage.
Give it a year or less and I bet you they will release a phone like samsung s2300, and maybe even the 5MPx S250
Posted by richardlusty
o2 are going to launch 3g tomorrow on postpay with 3 new phones. the nokia 66 somethin or other, a new samsung flip phone (which looks quite cool but feature wise not in the same league as sony ericsson or d500) and their own o2 x4 *cough* rubbish *cough*. the thing is that until the end of march, video calls will be taken out of the tarriff minutes. This is a promotional offer and o2 will be launching possibly new tarriffs after that date or maybe just makin it somethin like 60 or 65p per minute to do a video call. And even if you are not in a 3G compatible area, there will be seamless switch coverage onto the o2 standard network. Therefore out of all the networks i think o2 may be going about this the right way and slowly leading the revolution into 3G. Yeah the sony ericsson v800 will not be available on o2 3G for a couple of months yet i think. and o2 pay and go will follow the contract route into pay and go shortly.
Posted by themarques
@richardlusty And were did you get the info from?
Posted by dave_uk
Hmmm....it sounds to me like O2 are not taking this launch all that seriously, in case they bought by someone, maybe Hutchinson (merge with "3"?)
Why would you launch with sub-50% coverage when "3" have 80%+, Orange have 66%+ and Voda have over 50%? It doesn't make sense.
As for seamless handover between 3G and 2G, "3" advertised that at launch and it was garbage, as I suspect this claim will be too.
Time will tell...
Posted by Vlammetje
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I don't know why you think that but my vodafone does offer a working seamless transition over here so that in itself is not a specific O2 bonus feature
Posted by goldenface
Maybe 50% network coverage will include all the major cities and towns and so will include the vast majority of the population, making it viable for them to launch their 3G service.
Orange only launched their 3G service last month so maybe O2 were holding back to see how Orange faired.
Posted by scotsboyuk
@goldenface
It is 50% by population, not geographic area.
@richardlusty
Vodafone offers seamless switching between 3G and 2.5G coverage and, in my opinion, they accomplish it very well.
O2's 3G launch looks to be a little poor, hopefully they will get their act together quickly and be able to offer some real competition.
Posted by voda_jon
hello everyone... i personally an probably the other networks wont be worried by this news as it seems like its a very quiet soft launch.... plus O2 still brand their handsets... especially if its 100% 02 active... have u seen the 6600? its all O2 active with a titlebar... not too nice... but ok imo...
Less than 50% coverage is very poor but dont forget that this is a soft launch jus like vodafones launch was....
Anyways am off... head hurts.
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It's interesting that you speculate that O2 may be sold (or even break up like three is going to). My organisation is BT's largest competitor and we're looking to expand our mobile services.
I'm saying no more...
Posted by cal6n
O2 going 3G? what a joke. They don't even have decent voice coverage in Brighton, let alone anything else!
Posted by richardlusty
Well it may not be great in Brighton but in Northern Ireland it is the best network for reception. And i know that vodafone etc offer seamless switch, i wasnt trying to say that o2 are revolutionising in that respect. I just think the way that the company are approaching it and the way the sales team have been pitched is quite good and clever. Basically its not gonna be a big deal but it will be (if that makes sense) If it wasn't for o2 in Northern ireland i dont think picture messaging would have taken off over here cos non of the other networks didnt seem to bother themselves. Don't wanna give too much away about where i got the info from but there are news articles on the net. And also to the other guy who was sayin about o2 bein sold or broken up, if you do have any info i would love to know it and if you want you could email it to me and i'd keep shut. Yes and 3 didn't have successful seamless switch because it tried to access the o2 network which wasn't always successful (i wonder y???????
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But we'll wait and see anyway and hopefully with a few new sony ericsson handsets comin out 3g will be a next step. Come on sony get the 6 million mega pixel camera phone out! I wish
Posted by dave_uk
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Peanut, you coy chap, you....
Interesting, and of course BT need to get back into the mobile market, and they did used to own O2, so who does know...?
@richardlusty
I have no "inside info" - I just work in the industry and keep my ear to the ground, as it were...
Posted by scotsboyuk
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I wonder what a 6 terapixel camera would be like?
Posted by peanut
Not sure if this is any interest to people wanting to understand the strategic direction of O2. The end part of the presentation is of most interest.
http://www.mmo2.com/downloads[....]0-%20afternoon%20-%20final.pdf
Posted by goldenface
What I picked up from that was it aims to cover 50% of the population with 3G by June - and will roll it out to meet consumer demand. No to Edge and I-Mode looks very interesting. (Sorry I am in work at the moment and had to skip over most of it.
Posted by voda_jon
@peanut an others... BT arent gonna buy O2 out at any point soon... BT are just about to throw a lot into Bluephone and have signed an agreement with Voda so their money is in that....
Why would they buy a mobile network back jus after they have signed a pricey agreement with a direct competitor?
Posted by peanut
re-read my post i never said bt were going to buy out o2. what i said was my organisation owns bt's largest competitor and we're lookng to expand our mobile division. When I say bt's largest competitor I'm talking landline not mobile. So, that in mind you will see why I'm busy reading up on o2....
Posted by scotsboyuk
@peanut
Are we allowed to know the name of this company? I have a reasonably good idea of who it is anyway and I am actually surprised that they haven't done this sooner.
Posted by Si_V80
Good for them, and what do you mean there not walled up like 3?
Posted by scotsboyuk
@Si_V80
3 operate a 'walled garden' with respects to internet browsing. What this means is that 3's customers can only access 3's content, not the internet as a whole. You would be unable to access Esato from a 3 handset for example.
Posted by Si_V80
o rite, i noticed that on my motorola a835, pretty poor
Posted by goldenface
@peanut Isn't NTL cable BT's largest competitor? Who owns NTL?
Posted by Wirral Bagpuss
In addition to the O2 X4, O2 will offer 3G customers a range of handsets from leading manufacturers, including the Nokia 6630, Samsung Z107, Motorola V975 and the Sony Ericcson V800.
According to the extract i have pasted here O2 is releasing the V800 on their nextwork? Well folks i have bad bad news !!
I had an interesting chat with an o2 sales rep about 3g phones this week in the o2 shop in town (UK) and he said that the V800 was not going to be released by them. He showed me the roadmap/gateway map that the sales rep had listing all the phones that will be released by 02 on 3g this year, and the V800 is not on the list !!! So now you know !!! hey are gonna release new Nokia's and Motorola's instead
Posted by goldenface
That is bad news. Do think this is because of the network problems they have been having recently?
Posted by scotsboyuk
@goldenface
O2 might not have any interest in the V800, it may not fit in with their business plan for 3G.
Posted by peanut
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Not by tolling customer volume, no. I'm not saying anymore.
O2 must at some point be introducing the V800 as my friend is a switch engineer for O2 and has one his very self! It's nothing remarkable in my opinion but the new O2 Active portal is quite funky.
Posted by goldenface
Whats Tolling Customer Volume?
Yeah I agree. I am quite impressed with O2' Active, although I did download a song which I thought would be at least a couple of minutes long but it lasted about 8 seconds!!! and it cost me a couple of pounds.
I hope the V800 does come out on O2. I want it to be my next handset.
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