Posted by *Jojo*
It surely will WIN majority of the awards in this year's Oscars (2005), but why it was excluded
! Your thoughts . . . with that, my BEST bet for the Picture of the Year Award will be - The Aviator!
Posted by masseur
its nominated for cinematography, makeup and music (song) so it might win something
Posted by *Jojo*
@masseur - Yeah, but I was really hoping (since I previewed it's premier showing last year) that it will get the Best Picture award this year, and other 'major' awards too
It's like the assumption of NEC in 2002 that they will be releasing the 'very' first fone with a TV monitor this year 
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Posted by Davo_169
i cant wait till i go to the oscars
Posted by govigov
Never liked that one. May be if you are a serial killer and likes the sadistic pleasure of seeing one man being tortured by many.
Posted by *Jojo*
@davo_169 - You will
Take some pics of the celebs will you mate, and post it here, say, like those of:
1. Heather Graham
2. Monica Bellucci
3. Laffen - if he will watch too
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Posted by Davo_169
dont worry, before the night ill mention a word on esato or minted forums and during my acceptance speech i will say that word and you guys will know what im on about
Posted by *Jojo*
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. . . and what 'category' you are nominated mate
Best Gadget used for the Night, you think?
Posted by Davo_169
hahah very funny jojo, you wait, give it about 10 years and ill be up there with the best of the best.
Posted by masseur
ahem... so whats any of this got to do with the topic title?
Posted by Davo_169
sorry mass,
anyway, mel gibson wasnt expecting for it to make it big in the box office and it did, so whats the chance it will clean sweep its nominations.
Posted by *Jojo*
Sorry Mr. Moderator, now back on . . . The judges should really have included that movie (Passion). One thing I heard from the news is that they do not consider 'nominating' such, wheter it made big in the Box-Office, say like that of SpiderMan2, though an exception was said, like that of the movie - Titanic (Topgrosser) and won the The Best Picture award way back. The movie The Passion of the Christ made an astonishing US$650+ Million in ticket receipts worldwide
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Posted by remo74tg
Jewish people in Hollywood and US were'nt to happy about the movie and Hollywood is run by jews.
Posted by *Jojo*
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Yup! I heard about this issue as well mate, good post!
Posted by ADT0079
@JN Have you seen Hotel Rwanda Yet???If Not great movie,best i have seen in years....
Posted by Bammers
Think could be right about sadistic serial killers, thought the "passion" was somewhat over the top. Intereting, but over the top on the torture scenes!
Posted by *Jojo*
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@adt . .. -I haven't watched the movie - Hotel Rwanda, but I like the song . . . Hotel California
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@bammers - Yup, too much blood, but Mel Gibson 'made' sure that what they made/acted on are the 'real' scenes/events in Jesus' life.
Posted by Bammers
Suppose, just seemed to dwell and little too long on the "torture" scenes. Wasn't that impressed with "reservoir dogs" either come to think of it! Don't get me wrong I like a good shoot 'em up or action film or even horror, just dont like violence and torture for no reason or over the top!!
Posted by ThreeX
@Bammers
Totally agree with you.
I have nothing against realistic scenes in movies, but i think 'Passion' was nothing but a prolonged torture scene out of the very interesting story that was the life of JC..
I really liked Jesus Christ superstar in its time, but this was a disappointment. Besides, a ex-army medic friend of mine just shook his head and said "No way in **** would he survive that torture in real life, he would have gone into, and died of shock.
Posted by Bammers
At last, someone who agrees with me!LOL! Excellent, maybe people were tougher in those days but what was portrayed was well over the top and totally unnecessary! Read any decent history book and nasty things were done to people in those days, but the film was an excellent chance to show what is at the end of the day a very interesting story and an example of excellent crowd control and applied psychology etc. A poor show by all accounts by a Mr Gibson!
Posted by gelfen
the filmaker's point was to show he suffered more than anyone ever had before, or ever possibly could, to purge the sins of mankind. one would hope that the Son of God would be a little more resilient than the average human.
the only reason for the apparent snub at the oscars was the controversy around the film, and the complete lack of anything resembling bribery to persuade the judges/voters. the oscars are very corrupt and political, and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves (e.g. denzel washington in 'training day' over russel crowe in 'a beautiful mind', gwyneth paltrow in 'shakespeare in love' over cate blanchett in 'elizabeth').
Posted by ThreeX
Might be true..
But still Monty Python´s Black knight scene sprung to my mind more than once during the film..
I agree completely with you on the "Beautiful mind" thing tho.
Posted by *Jojo*
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@gelfen - Hmmm . . . I thought that the Americans are just one of the honest and 'straight' people around
If money really talks here, Mel Gibson could have just easily gave some 'grease' money to the jurors (Oscar's) considering the amount the movie earned - worldwide, more than US$650 million as reported
Posted by gelfen
but that was never the point of the movie. i don't think the winning of an oscar would really incluence anyone's opinion of this particular film anyway.
Posted by *Jojo*
@gelfen - Hmmm . . . wayback then, I saw this interview with Marlon Brando, asking him what will he choose between a Top Grosser Film or an Academy Award, the legend chose the latter . . .
Sometimes, it's NOT just the money after all - mate.
Posted by gelfen
most of the people who saw this film did so because of the "controversy", and will never watch it again. i doubt anyone who hasn't seen it will do so on the strength of an oscar win, but on either word of mouth or as a matter of faith/curiosity.
Posted by *Jojo*
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@gelfen - Hmmm . . . well, as I have seen in some reports there were some individuals (offenders) who turned themselves in (after having viewed it), some claimed to have killed somebody, stolen things in a store et al, their conscience couldn't hold their guilts I presume - that's why. Also, a number turned their wicked ways to GOOD after viewing it. There are just some positive results this film have contributed to the populace mate
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Posted by Bammers
Am very surprised, thought it was little different in places to the over the top unnecessary violence in "reservoir dogs". Whether it deserves an Oscar, well as usual it is down to peoples perception and taste. And probably who is currently "brown nose of the month" rather than quality film making!
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It is not a good post - it is ignorant and bigotted - and, quite frankly, you are at best misguided if you agree.
This makes my blood boil to be quite honest. @moderators - do you not see anything wrong here? Are off-topic, sarcastic comments that offend whiny individuals more worthy of removal and reprimand than this? If so, I think I may be in the wrong place!
Posted by Bammers
I think you are right, that is not a good post. People spreading myths such as that only serve to perpetuate racism and bigotry which have no place in a modern world.