Posted by Debu
....well...sort of, i guess. Last night, i noticed that my 9500 was not making an EDGE connection to Mobile Office (others on banglore should have noticed this too), insted the regular (Plain Vanilla GPRS) connection. So when it took almost 20+ secs to open 'http://www.google.com/palm', which is usually even faster then the normal google, I decided to call customer care. On calling them up, the nice lady said that the EDGE services have been put offline for 24 hours as 3G-related testing is going on!!!!
Any thoughts? Comments? Excited whispers?
Posted by govigov
Hey that is wonderful! :-) Not much 3g handsets around though. :-(
Posted by Pradhika
They are telling me such upgradations since last 7 months.
Posted by whizkidd
3G? But has the TRAI already issued licences for 3G operations? As far as i know, it hasn't.
Posted by vineet_d
TRAI have not issued any licence for 3G in India yet, but testing with proper infrastructure can be done as per the law, so I guess this is a great news.
Posted by whizkidd
So Airtel folks are confident that the GSM players will get the licences!?
Posted by Debu
Even so....its sort of, has been a surreal reality-dream since i've been quite young. Something which was a creation of someone 's imagination gone loose: talking to someone while you can see his face on the screen, reminds me of the sci-fi movies back in the 80's. Only this is'nt a big screen on the wall, like those movies, its these tiny things in our pocket that we call cellular phones, and finally I feel, the future has come.... the future in now.
Posted by shyam335
The biggest issue of 3g is coverage,there is already a no of problems in uk regarding coverage,i cant imagine the amount of problems in india (with such huge geographical area to cover)
Posted by govigov
I think it will be just limited to cities. (For the time being atleast.)
Posted by sonam
3g! in india ??!!
i think this would come under excited whispers.
Posted by shyam335
I reckon itll take time (if at all it has to suceed)
Posted by govigov
Let it, the price of handsets should come down.
Posted by sonam
ideally i think that in order for 3g to work, the price of the handsets has to be between 8000-15000. But airtel, it seems has never been afraid of going into ventures which only a few can get into. Look at Blackberry, the hansets a very expensive and yet airtel is taking a risk on it.
Posted by shyam335
Blackberry is a much 'safer' risk imo
Posted by Debu
@shyam: i think 3g isn't exactly a risk, because, its got to come sooner or later, and if airtel is already preparing for it, it is probably foresight. It would mean that when it does finally roll out, they will have already an infrastructure ready for it.
Posted by whizkidd
Does 3g need completely new infrastructure?
Posted by govigov
The airtel should in my opinion should look at connection plus handset on contract basis. They can certainly do that.
Posted by shyam335
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yea,its . i was wondering how much airtel will invest at first , and is airtel affording all the investments on 3g of their own , any ideas
Posted by sonam
Devesh, what i mean by risk is that airtel are putting their money too early, at a time when the market is unprepared for such an upgrade. What i mean is that people wont go in for it since the price would be too high. I dont doubt that such a move is inevitable.
Posted by whizkidd
But there's nothing wrong in being prepared. Is there? And airtel sure does know what they are doing.
Posted by govigov
Foresight is the most important thing when it comes to mobile phones.
Posted by whizkidd
How many of you guys would take 3g services? I have to say, i'm satisfied with my current plain ol gprs.
Posted by shyam335
I want 3g if its resonably charged,and occational video calls if possible
Posted by Debu
I dont think that i would be taking 3G anytime in the near future. Even though it sounds extremely tempting i'm happy with my EDGE. If i'm having good egprs coveage, i can get upto DSL speeds, which i feel is good enough. Ideally one could get upto 384 kbps (stop dreaming!!)
but with mobile office and my 9500, i get round about 150-175 kbps, which is also quite impressive. In short 3g is out for me, atleast for about 1.5-2 years.
Posted by plasmadog
airtel are just giving some b***s*** excuse for their shitty gprs service.
@debu, man.. they've been saying this for ages.
the thing is they've outsourced all their network and call centre operations to other vendors. (Nokia and IBM respectively).. so they don't care about things like gprs since they're making all their money out of voice revenue. their data services don't make so much money, so they're cutting costs and providing really awful service.
that's the main reason i shifted out of airtel a few months ago. the thing is they're taking all gprs customers for a ride, about the stories of 3G and all... its just crap.
so next time.. don't be so nice to the nice lady!!!
Posted by arm9
it'll be ages before any indian mobile network brings 3G.
Posted by govigov
Hutch might bring it sooner than you except it.
Posted by k4m!k4ze
i sure wish those b****ds would improve their existing networks first.
Frequent signal loss when talking, shitty gprs, you have to call the cc number 50 times before you finally get through and sometimes those idiots have no idea what ur talking about !
! Their networks cant even handle loads at peak hours ! 
Posted by arm9
i've never trusted these people(network providers) but right now hutch does give the best gprs services in india.....yea i guess they'd be the first to bring it out.....luckily i'm on hutch.
Posted by govigov
Hutch has frequent call drops that i have heard of corporates shifting to airtel. Consider loosing some 200 postpaid connection at once. :-) And they charge exorbitant rates. :-(
Posted by shyam335
From my experience,for calls (qos) airtel is good (really) , but for data services they are the worse
Posted by arm9
yea......ultimately they all suck!
Posted by whizkidd
Shyam, i have to say they have improved a million times now. It is always fast and never disconnects! We had some sour experience with AirTel earlier i know. But really, they have improved a lot!
Posted by govigov
Downloading with airtel is a headache. You cant go past 25kb barrier.
Posted by k4m!k4ze
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i agree, i always had this problem with airtel !
Posted by Debu
Dudes, I dont think gprs is capable of going faster then 25-30 kbps. The fastest it gets is 48 kbps, but that would be only if you would get full gsm and full gprs signal, with the RF interference taken as negligible.
In other wordd, not possible
Posted by clank
3g in india?!? Thats gonna be a distant dream for quite some time here. Airtel has yet to figure out its gprs/edge leave alone 3g...thats prob just a lie their cc guys are trained to say to cover their lapses. People in uk with 3g phones dont use it coz its too expensive so its def not feasible for india cost wise(handset+data service) Hutch is sooo much better when it comes to gprs...i can download any sized file anytime without any problems so i'll be expectin 3g from them first...along with a v800
Posted by ++BiLLy3D++
BSNL has got gprs, and after compairing it with one of my friends on a hutch connection, BSNL was def faster...
Posted by phsychomantis
How bout reliance their network is already cdma1x best in terms of cogestion so if they come out with wcdma z800 then that would be the best
Posted by dr_thug
Hmm........
well when will bsnl cellone launch it???coz it would be the cheapest rite??
goahead guys...laugh ur ass off
Posted by omnislash
Hmmm thats a great news to hear about 3G guys as far as coverage goes 3G works on almost same platform as 2.5G(so called GSM) all they need is a little upgrade to their cell sites and it would be ready for 3G use so airtel could go for it but if reliance is planning that then reliance has to take the hard way round by upgrading their 2G (CDMA) to 3G which needs major modification so lots of home-work to be done
Posted by govigov
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My feelings exactly!
Posted by shyam335
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thats a misconception,both require (gsm and cdma) require almost same amount of effort to upgrade to 3g. and the gsm 3g works on quite different pattern from our ordinary gsm. reliance networks are defenitley 2.5g (they call their network 3g themslelves infact!) but its cdma, and i think when it comes to upgrade to 3g , i think cdma has an edge ,ie i belive to Evo-duo is easier to upgrade for cdma than for utms/3g for gsm. but im not sure which is better though
Posted by shivam007
I think the operators should let the edge service flourish first and then the 3g... There will be infinite problems regarding the use of 3g... Firstly most of us will need a 3g handset... Secondly. The plans will definately priced high.... So this raises the question do we really need 3g?..... And if some day we start using 3g then there will be numerous problems regarding speeds, server down.. (they are already occuring in gprs)
Posted by shyam335
3G will co-exist with 2/2.5G,for all those teething problems to be resolved itll take time,thats usual.by the look of it you dont have to worry about 3g coming anytime soon everywhere.
Posted by shivam007
yeah lets wait for it to come! 3g
Posted by shivam007
!!attention moderators!!!
plz lock this thread becoz no one is interested to post in it!
thank you
Posted by shyam335
Its because no one is intrested,the govnt isnt intrested and unfortunately there is no media attention on this either.As i know things are crawling and we are 'dangerously' behind.
Posted by shivam007
@shyam335 unless the govt changes their attitude i think the situation will worsen!!
Posted by Debu
To be quite honest, I dont think that investing in 3G services and infrastructure at this point of time is a good idea. I do, however think, investing the available funds into the next generation technology is a better idea.