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Posted by Thx1138
Howdy!

Feel free to have your oppiniun:

http://www.slatthogflyers.se/compare.jpg
or download specification here:
http://www.qtek.nu/files/Produktblad%20Qtek%20S100.pdf



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Posted by govigov
Can you pls list the specs of the 2nd phone here?

Posted by lor
It's the XDA Mini.

Posted by dancingfate
Qtek S100 is better than P910i for the following :

Processor: 416 MHz (P910i AMR 156 MHz i think...)
Connectivity : plus mini USB
Size: shorther, thiner and lighter
Camera: 1.3 MP
OS : Windows Mobile with Windows Media Player is cool...

The only good in SE P910i is 262K colors...

Yes, that Qtek looks like O2 XDA II Mini...

Posted by lor
You also forgot to mention that windows mobile devices need a lot of ram and processing power just to run a few applications and that's not the case for the p910i which is why it's quite comfortable with it's processor.




Posted by govigov
Hmmm... The cam in the other phone is good.

Posted by j_0_e
the s100 seems better in spec....... but when u look @ it in the long run, it wont be able to have all the software and stuff we have on our p910i's. it probs wont get popular enough to have what we get

agreed?

Posted by masseur
as some of you probably know, I am using the i-mate JAM as my primary phone now. The JAM is just another name for the Qtek S100 or HTC magician, or o2 XDA compact etc etc.

As a prior P800/P900/P910i user this phone suits me because it does have all the power you need, runs all the latest pocketpc software (which is great because I can run all that I use on my iPAQ), including worldmate, avantgo etc etc. There is also alot more free and shareware available for this platform

its windows mobile 2003 SE so it provides landscape mode natively

it has an SDIO slot so extra memory is cheaper and I can plug an SD wifi card into it.

Sizewise it sits on my belt much less obtrusively than the P910 ever did.

pocket internet explorer has always been far superior to the built in P910 browser.

as an outlook user on my pc synchronisation works flawlessly

I use microsoft autoroute on my pc and they provide a pocketpc version which works great so I carry maps of where I am going all the time. thats not easy to do on the p series

the camera is 1.3MP and it does take good pictures and video but to be honest considering the P910 is 0.3MP the 1.3MP isn't really 3 or 4 times better as you might expect.

messaging works better in my opinon, especially MMS.

I could rave on and on with more stuff as to why I have swapped my P910 for this device but that will do for starters and you'll have to wait for my review (one day)

edit: in summary as an avid pocketpc user this is what I have been waiting for its just that previous pocketpc phones have been too big for my taste

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Posted by .Z.
Looks very nice indeed...

When my P900 is worn out i may be looking at Qtek!

Posted by .Z.
One question.

My hearing isn't so good, how is the sound in S100 against P900?

Posted by masseur
again, comparing with the JAM, the sound is very clear if a little hollow.

Some people are complaining about distortion and on the CompactJam forum in this thread there is a link to this thread on the XDA developers site suggesting there might be some patch to improve it.

for me it sounds pretty good and I had no complaints before reading all that

Posted by Thx1138
Howdy,

If someone did not notice, the screen is bigger on S100:
320x240 vs 320x208

http://www.pricerunner.com/



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Posted by csr120
Pocket Internet Explorer browser has dissapointed me,though because there are on the net some multiforms in which the drop down boxes input is not remembered when you go to the next part of the multiform. Also , the INBOX and COMPOSE buttons cannot be accessed through the web interface with the Pocket Internet Explorer + you cannot save individualy the pics of a web page .

Posted by hippo
@masseur,

This is interesting indeed. I hope you do one of your reviews of this device sooner or later. Meanwhile a "couple" of questions in case you are feeling communicative:

1) What is the sound quality like, listening to mp3 files on the S100? I use the P910 for this a lot.

2) Even as a P-series afficionado, the P910/outlook sync makes me want to throw the P910 out of the window almost every day. Sounds as though you might also have found this. Is it really that good with the S100?

3) How do you cope with the slow-down of not having the qwerty keyboard and going back to the stylus? I reckon I can keep up with most blackberry users on my P910.

4) Do you know if there's a BlackBerry client for the S100? Have you tried it?

5) Ever run out of working memory?

6) How's the wi-fi?

7) More importantly (for me), how's the bluetooth? Does it work properly with a BT headset (STILL not right on the P910)?

8) Hmmm no phone keypad for SMS?

That's all for now...!

[ This Message was edited by: hippo on 2005-01-06 23:56 ]

Posted by blue8300
Quote:

On 2005-01-04 13:43:25, j_0_e wrote:
the s100 seems better in spec....... but when u look @ it in the long run, it wont be able to have all the software and stuff we have on our p910i's. it probs wont get popular enough to have what we get

agreed?



Agreed?? not really... lol
I think you will even get more software there it's a PPC and can use all compatible software you see

Posted by .Z.
Vhere can i find apps for PPC?

Posted by masseur
http://www.freewareppc.com/
http://www.pocketgear.com/
http://www.handango.com/


Posted by sbjg
Hey masseur,

Nice to see your post. Had been busy with something else for a long time. Felt nice after looking at your post. Felt like coming home again.

Posted by Zacay
What is it that P910 has and S100 doesn't?

And does SD-WIFI work on S100?

Posted by hippo
@masseur, how are you? Feel like answering my questions from a few posts back?

Posted by upper
Quote:

On 2005-01-04 05:55:42, lor wrote:
You also forgot to mention that windows mobile devices need a lot of ram and processing power just to run a few applications and that's not the case for the p910i which is why it's quite comfortable with it's processor.




how do you no that? do you make phones? did you build the i-mate jam? i guess not. did anyone told you this? maybe you say this coz you can actually see the physical memory being use in the i-mate jam, but in the p900/p910 you cant, so thats why maybe your saying this.

Posted by jafggl
So finally we can see that there r many better phones than the p910,no need 2 get mad about it

Posted by masseur
oops. I guess I missed this. appologies

Quote:

On 2005-01-07 00:55:35, hippo wrote:
@masseur,

This is interesting indeed. I hope you do one of your reviews of this device sooner or later. Meanwhile a "couple" of questions in case you are feeling communicative:

1) What is the sound quality like, listening to mp3 files on the S100? I use the P910 for this a lot.



The sound quality was always good when listening to movies or music but was quite tinny when in a phone conversation. The latest firmware update fixed that and now phone calls are pretty good too

Quote:

2) Even as a P-series afficionado, the P910/outlook sync makes me want to throw the P910 out of the window almost every day. Sounds as though you might also have found this. Is it really that good with the S100?



I've been using pocketpc for years and always found activesync to do a great job synching outlook from the pc to the pocketpc and visaversa. If I was to compare I would say pocketpc does a 95% satisfactory job whereas P series an 85% satisfactory job

Quote:

3) How do you cope with the slow-down of not having the qwerty keyboard and going back to the stylus? I reckon I can keep up with most blackberry users on my P910.



My idea of a device like this is that it should be handy and useful without being obtrusive. Devices with full keyboards tend to be larger than I prefer so I choose not to buy those however blackberry have done a good job in this area. so I am used to using virtual keyboards and can be quite fast. Actually lately I have been using SPB full screen keyboard (SPB make some great software)



Quote:

4) Do you know if there's a BlackBerry client for the S100? Have you tried it?



I haven't heard of blackberry for and windows mobile phone devices and wouldn't use it if there were

Quote:

5) Ever run out of working memory?



never. I am currently using a 2GB SD card and store most stuff there

Quote:

6) How's the wi-fi?



for wifi I am using the sandisk wifi card and the driver they supply gives it the same feel that you get setting up wifi on windows and is mostly fairly automatic. its also supports wep and other encryption standards. you can also get sandisk wifi cards with memory on board which might be useful as there is only ne slot

Quote:

7) More importantly (for me), how's the bluetooth? Does it work properly with a BT headset (STILL not right on the P910)?



I've had no problem using mb HBH-600 and now HBH-660

Quote:

Hmmm no phone keypad for SMS?



yeah there is a special entry method (apart from full keyboard, block recogniser, letter recogniser and transcriber) called phone pad which gives you the following




Posted by andysam
I have gone from my P905 to an MDA Compact (the generic phone we are talking about here). The only reason I have definately gone to the dark side, well two, is the synching and freely available low cost or more often free software.

I think the P905 was a better phone, I do miss the keypad but only for dialling numbers. The MDA comes with voice recognition anyway. The MDA is just a better all rounder.

Oh, and wifi is the biz!

Posted by Evil Eye
I go with the xda mini.

Posted by masseur
Quote:

On 2005-04-23 13:15:26, andysam wrote:
snip... The MDA comes with voice recognition anyway. The MDA is just a better all rounder.



speaking of voince recognition, I'm using Microsoft Voice Command. It requires no training and out of the box works for anyone. It can call numbers in the phone book or you can speak a number to call. it also knows all your music and you can give a track name and it starts playing, or mention an album or artist name and it lists the tracks for you to choose from. A quick command will give you te time or date or battery level etc etc

its great software IMHO, especially when you don't have that frustration of training it


Posted by Evil Eye
@masseur whats IMHO?

Posted by hippo
@masseur thanks for the long reply... appreciated.

I would rate the P910i sync with outlook at more like 65% than 85%; it does not seem to support reminders (which get converted to zero-length appointments) or recurring appointments (often double-up or disappear) and has particular trouble with a recurring appointment with irregular exceptions (e.g. a weekly meeting which is sometimes at a different time). In addition, the version control in the Notes/Jotter is terrible, often causing the newer version to be lost in favour of the older one. And there is no log file.

Apologies for the off-topic rant.

Posted by whozayfar
Just two things I'd like to find out.

1) Does the JAM sync with Lotus Notes? and how is your % rating in this regard.

2) Whats the cost now for a JAM? and how does this compare with the current cost in UK for a p910?

Cheers

Posted by masseur
I'm fairly sure the JAM doesn't sync with lotus notes. I've just had a check of their support site and there is no mention of it.

brand new, Jams still sell for around £260-£300 whereas P910i sells for around £450. second hand its interesting that the JAM sells for more than the P910. Jams go on ebay for around 270-320 whereas P910s go for 250-300 and on Esato P910's go for even less

Posted by whozayfar
blimey, I'd pay 300 quid rite not for a JAM, any1 can get this to South Africa? Mass just one more thing, i'm quite delighted with my p910 and thankfully it helps me keep my life organised particularly with lotus notes, so would you suggest going for just a PDA with all the functions of the JAM? I really would love the wifi in particular and also the MS applications would be fantastic for work? Your help in this regard would be much appreciated.

Posted by masseur
As much as I like the JAM I guess the saying that if it ain't broke, don't mess with it is appropriate. so if you have a setup that works for you then be happy. in my experience changing platforms will always cause you agro that perhaps you don't need when you are, by the sounds of it, happy with what you have.

My office uses lotus notes (which I really dislike, uggghhh!) and I tend to forward emails and such to my personal email which I always receive with outlook and that syncs great with pocketpc devices

don't forget that wifi on the jam will cost you extra. I got the Sandisk wifi SD card without onboard memory and that cost me 32 pounds + postage

the pocket versions of word and excel are good but you will still lose some formatting which can be annoying at times. In this area the palm documents to go does and equal or sometimes better job in my past experience but with each generation of pocketpc (windows mobile) the sync for these gets better

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Posted by whozayfar
i'm beginning to agree with you more and more as this topic pans out. However I think it may be in my interests to get just a PDA which has wifi on board. Whats the damage I'm looking at in this regard? obviously a decent processor to boot wouldnt hurt.
Cheers



Posted by elyl
@Masseur
I saw a picture on here of the i-Mate with a wifi card and it protruded quite uglily out of the top of it... I'm not too concerned with wifi (I have my laptop for that) but do the SD memory-only cards stick out in this manner, or are they hidden (such as the MS in a P-series)?

Posted by upper
Quote:

On 2005-04-24 22:38:51, elyl wrote:
@Masseur
I saw a picture on here of the i-Mate with a wifi card and it protruded quite uglily out of the top of it... I'm not too concerned with wifi (I have my laptop for that) but do the SD memory-only cards stick out in this manner, or are they hidden (such as the MS in a P-series)?


masseur still can answer your question, but i just want to say that the sd memory cards do not stick out like the wifi cards do.

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Posted by goldenapple
im planning of buying an XDA mini by June. is this still practical? or should i wait for a better PDA/phone convergent device? and what is the latest firmware available for the JAM so that i could check the FW of the device im going to buy. thanx all

Posted by whozayfar
I second goldenapple. just as an aside. I know your laptop is for wifi but you cant carry your laptop everywhere with u, well u can but you generally dont. a phone PDA will always be with u, in the loo at the zoo wherever, not that theres always wifi there, but give it a few years I say wifi will be as common as cellphone towers, lets hope. I wonder, i have a vision of free broadband internet for the world one day, just like radio, to pick up wherever you can whenever you want and at lightning speeds.

Dunno whether that will materialise but it would certainly benefit tons of people, especially with helpful forums like this 1. Esato rules, no questions about it. Even if i do switch to an i-mate, i'll keep coming back (like mass!)

Posted by MaPe
Just wondering, is the qtek-series the same units as the XDA's? The s100 and the XDA mini... and the qtek 9090 seems a lot like the XDA IIs... same phones, different brand, or??

Posted by whozayfar
@ goldenapple same phone, different name

Posted by Aqu4rius
gonne get the MDA compact in the next few weeks on upgrade

tried it out in the shop today, and was really impressed!

its smaller than the p900 aswell.

Posted by Aqu4rius
whats the battery time like, as ive been reading around, and its seems worryingly short?

Posted by masseur
I get about 3 days out of mine with a fair number of calls, listening to music, playing the odd game etc

Posted by sparky92
Is it worth getting the s100? I can't find an official support site for it anywhere. I know that it comes with 2 years warranty, but how do you make use of it if you can't track Qtek down? Does anybody know what they're like in terms of issuing ROM updates?

Posted by mabobine
I have got P910i. I am not sure whether transcriber is there on my cell. Can anyone tell me how to use this function or whether P910i doesn't support the transcriber thing. and if i don't have a transcriber and P910i supports it, then can anyone let me know from which website i can download it.

thank you.
raheel.sheikh@gmail.com

Posted by mabobine
Is there a transcriber in P910i. If yes, how can i use it. If no, from where i can get it.

Thank you.
raheel.sheikh@gmail.com

Posted by ripkord
Sorry forbumping this but is it possible to install windows mobile 2005 on the mda compact?


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