Posted by Yazan24
Are the Nokia Designers confused in what to name the phones
because there is no consistency with series, except maybe the 9 series as communicators, but other than that all their phones are jumbled into different series.
Is it Just me?
Posted by k4m!k4ze
well they released so many models, they're running out of numbers to assign !
the 6670 and 7610 are the same phone with a different key layout ! They atleast should be named like 7610 and 7610a or i or something . Like how SE have done with the s700 and s710
Posted by methylated_spirit
Nokia will hotly refute this, but to me it looks like they have lost their way somewhat, churning out bland, poor looking handsets with no real pizazz, and just assigning any old 4 digit code (possibly employees PIN numbers
) as the model name .
Posted by folling182
they still havent brought out series 4 phones (4XXX)...
perhaps it will a series that specializes in nokias "self defence" funcion, and aswell as being a good thing to hit someone on the head with, it will include mace and a tazer...
Posted by milmino
to be honest I've never known the way nokia name their models. To me it's just random 4digits. anyone actually know?
Posted by k4m!k4ze
like how lottery numbers are picked, maybe ?
Posted by folling182
i personally had the sensation that the high the series number, the better/more stylish/more expensive it was...but over the last year or so thats gone out the window..
Posted by Yazan24
Yeah
I thought like the 1-3 Series should be low budget phones
However when the 3650 Came out I changed my mind and now with the 3230- 1.3 MP Camera and amazing features.
and the differences in Keyboard layout are in different series.
I think they have the first number on the designer himself
and then the last 3 numbers on preformance
But then the 3230 would be less in performance than the 3310
Im so confused
Posted by OluYom
Its such an unco-ordinated looking mess. No pattern. No rhythm. Nokia - disconnected minds.
Posted by methylated_spirit
There used to be a pattern, but now it just seems they shoehorn the model numbers in. It would be good to read something on their policy regarding model numbers, ive had a dig around but cant find anything, if anyone knows of a statement or suchlike could they post a link?
Posted by Jake Blues
i been saying this for ages!
i think not following the numbers on is just a ploy so people dont notice that one models "replacement" is actually the same phone with a new express on cover.
Posted by CrackerJack
I think 'Nature' has something there. Nokia's ploy has definitely got us confused.
Posted by Wazuki
Thats what i know: 1 series is basic phones 2 teenage phones 3 dunno 4 no 5 resin shockproof and waterproof 6 business series 7 fashion series 8 dunno maybe exclusive because of that titanium phone 9 communicators
Posted by Yazan24
Wazuki, I believe the problem with your theory is inconsistancy that is the general trend but for each statement theres an exception, so theres no definate pattern.
Posted by k4m!k4ze
@wazuki - there is a slight problem with your categorizing. Take the 6670 and 7610,both are the same with a different keypad and pdf support in the former, so how can one be business and the other fashionable ?
Posted by Wazuki
Well, even news articles say that 6670 is a business version of 7610 for people that dont like fancy 7610 keyboard and 7610 been advertised in my country as "they who dont have good taste are dead" and i kno 100% that 6 is business and 7 is fashion- i read it. And maybe 3 is experimental series. Ya know that 3300 player.
Posted by Memzee
I wouldn't say they're confused, just blind.
Posted by milmino
or crazy, or really smart... hmm... I think crazy.
Posted by gerardsalvador
They shouldve started from the number 1. Imagine that! 'dude i just bought a nokia 4!' it would be so much easier to determine the latest model :D
Posted by CrackerJack
I would say that they are smart. They've got a lot of people buying Nokia's thinking that they are getting a whole new phone and not the same one but with a different keypad and housing (faceplates).
Posted by lowrida5656
how is se's modles anymore organized?
[ This Message was edited by: lowrida5656 on 2005-01-02 12:07 ]
Posted by Yazan24
The P is always a touchscreen smart phone,
The higher T was always a high quality candy bar phone.
The Lower T was a low quality candy bar phone
So even within the series itself its arranged according to price and features as well as quality.
The K I believe has taken over a division of the T series,
so since there are newly established series, we cannot analyze se's arrangment, because the T is going to probably be split up into K and F
The Z has always been a clamshell phone
also Z600, is less in features than the Z1010 hence 600<1010
So SE have shown consistency in the past unlike nokia, and will probably continue with consistency in the newer models which are likely to be
K,F,Z,P,S
Instead of
T,A,R, and the Ericsson Letters
Posted by Memzee
Nokia do show some consistency.
The 7xxx phones are all weird and stupid in some way, whether in design or features, or both.
7600 - Weird shape and keypad, 3G phone that can't do video calls.
7610 - Weird shape and keypad, mono mp3 output.
7260 - Weird shape, nasty retro 1920's design.
7270 - Weird shape and keypad, nasty retro 1920's design.
7280 - Need I say anything?
7200 - Textured covers? Weird, but not that bad I guess.
7710 - There's an exception to every rule, but it does look a bit strange, even though it's actually the best phone Nokia have released in ages.
[ This Message was edited by: Memzee on 2005-01-02 12:40 ]
Posted by DeLa
@Yazan24
sorry to continue the OT but I think SE won't like to read that the lower T-series are low quality. In fact the t100/105 and t200 are very good quality. They do not have that much features. But even then the t200 was feature-packed at the time.
All manufacturers tend to keep some confusion so as to avoid a clear ranking order from "poor" to "excellent". This way you avoid that customers of simple phones are blatantly labeled as having the cheapest phone with the least features. A bit of confusion creates room for everybody to be happy with his purchase.
Posted by Tilly
Cant help but agree with Cracker jack.Wanted 2get a new Nokia phone and d similarities juz got me confused.I guess d designers av nt only succeeded in confusing themselves but we d consumers as well.SE shows a lil more consistency
Posted by blackspot
I think Nokia intended it that way so that we can have something to talk about
The numbers are carefully selected so that they will give a hint of a series but will also create a mystery when one comes out that doesn't follow the trend of the supposed series. That's a very difficult feat IMO
not to mention having to create a seemingly random pattern that are actually planned. Hope you understood that because I didn't but I'm sure Nokia will agree with me.
Posted by methylated_spirit
Yeah i understand, and it seems likely, but one question: Why? Why go to all that trouble?
Posted by blackspot
wierd marketing strategy, sub-conscious ploy, simple boredom, 5-dimensional creativity, I don't know. Whatever it is, intentional or not, they're definitely getting attention in that area.
Posted by *Jojo*
@yazan - I guess that's just part of Nokia's merketing strategy mate - to get the buying public - CONFUSED!
Posted by djpowelly
Another example was the 3310 and 3330: lets change the covers and add some wap with a firmware upgrade and call it the 3330!
Posted by goldenapple
6-series: business
7-series: fashion (always somewhat 'new' in design)
3-series: low end versions (not really priced-low)
8-series: DEAD (before it was the trendy type)
9-series: communicator
Posted by slattery69
i find all the major phone comapny numbers a bit confusing. incuding nokias but then they do have more phones available compared to others.
even se are confusing- they have a t610 then release a clamshell version under z no problem but then call it the z600 when its a t610 in another form, the t630 comes out why is it 20+ when its just a different screen and shell, i mean the p900-910 is more obvious with the upgrades.
then they ditch the t series for k when the k700 is the updated version of t610/30
samsung have slide phones with e and d all a bit odd.
thankfully i only need the number of the phone when ordering after that its just a phone and i need never call it by whatever its meant to be called
Posted by lowrida5656
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why dont we just put a new screen and cover on a t610 and call it a t630?
Posted by blackspot
A screen upgrade can not be done by firmware.
Posted by milmino
I think I've figured it out;
1 series - basic boring phones
2 series - basic boring phones, but more expensive
3 series - youth intended phones, or budget phones
4 series - is there a 4
5 series - active, shock resistant, waterproof, basic phones
6 series - business
7 series - "fashion" yeah right
8 series - "premium original" phones
9 - you all know