Posted by ljf881
In a swedish morning paper today, the Chairman of Ericsson Michael Treschow said that the most wanted thing on his "hot stuff"-wishlist was the third generation of P900.
I also have heard from someone at SE that the 3G-P series is more imminent than most people expect. Whenever that is...
Ok, vague indications but pointing towards something...
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Posted by masseur
...and not totally unexpected I guess as I would doubt that they would stop that line of product at the P910
Posted by ljf881
You're absolutely right.
The point I was making was that it's probably closer to launch date than we hope....maybe...
Posted by masseur
They do seem to be getting a little quicker at bringing them out. There was a year between P800 and P900 but only 9 months to get to the P910
here's hoping...
Posted by Atlis
So only 6 months to Px? Logically... ;-)
Posted by Elrond
Yeah, you wish to.
Posted by vee
I am sure we will see new Pxxxx device on Cebit and then it will ce out in late spring. It will be a revolutionary again as P800 was when it came out. And in the end they want to be ahead of Nokia and they are coming out with 7710. Just my logic ;-).
Posted by tonyitalian
The much awaited P1000 is not expected to hit the markets before april 2005..... as told by a Sony Ericsson official in the U.A.E.....
CANT WAIT FOR IT THOUGH!
Posted by maki101
P910 is something like a update for P900, so I think that we can expect real successor of P-series maybe on Cebit 2005
Posted by chungagoring
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that's why it will be presented even before cebit.
Posted by etaab
Its the phone im holding on for.
I was severly tempted to trade in my K700i for a S700 or V800, but really i want a P1000.
From people ive spoken to who are meant to be SE insiders they say it'll be out around March-June next year, so i'm going to hang on until Cebit in March to see whats announced.
Im still tempted by the S700, which i might get temporarily if my girlfriend wants my K700i.
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really ? , then thats great if it has all those good stuff in it
Posted by methylated_spirit
Im due an upgrade next June, heres hoping...
Posted by etaab
It'll almost certainly have Wi-Fi and 1.3mp camera minimum.
But what about the Bluetooth ? anyone heard of speculation whether it'll be class 2 ( 10m ) or class 1 ( 100m ). Im hoping it'll have 100m range.
Posted by goldenface
Thanks for that Etabb. It just the news I was waiting to hear. A 3G Smartphone is just what I am after. Imminent sound like just around the corner to me. Cross the P910 with a V800 and S700? HEAVEN. . (My text cursor has disappeared) . :(
Posted by etaab
Theres already 3G smartphones out, such as the Motorola A1000.
Id like one, but i dont actually need one.
Posted by chungagoring
guys, i have some bad news...
(from www.clubsonyericsson.com/en)
Having finished the 2004 season of product presentations, in which Sony Ericsson introduced 7 new phones to the market, all expectations now point to what's rumored to be an exciting 2005, with at least 8 new models. We are all logically looking forward to what should come to life before the Cebit in March, but we will see no P910 subsitute so soon. An official source confirmed to Club Sony Ericsson that there will certainly be a "P1000" (improbable name) with some of the stuff we are expecting such as WiFi and megapixel camera... but --and this is the news-- it will not be a 3G phone. There must be of course a marketing reason not to make a P800-concept based UMTS smartphone yet, but we enthusiasts will be dissapointed without fail with this decision. Other exciting entertainment-focused phones (3G and not) should keep the thrill up however.
Posted by etaab
To be honest, i dont really mind if its 3G or not.
Posted by goldenface
Bah! Spoilsport.
Posted by Residentevil
Don't need 3G here either yet, because the american market is not ready for that yet.
Posted by methylated_spirit
It is surprising though, for such a high-end phone not to be 3G, especially since most networks (in the UK at least) are gearing up for 3G capability.
Posted by dave_uk
@meths
Couldn't agree more.
This is madness, surely, on
's part, though we should probably wait and see what actually does materialise before getting too concerned. Surely the next logical step for what is essentially, as business-focussed smartphone is to take advantage of the much higher data speeds offered by UMTS. I personally couldn't care less about video calls, but I will feel slightly miffed if the P1000 (or whatever it turns out to be called) doesn't allow me to surf the web over "mobile broadband"!
Posted by etaab
Maybe thats why it'll be Wi-Fi..
Posted by peejay
I will be very disappointed if P1000 is not 3G. I wanted to update my P900 to a 3G P series.
Perhaps there is a marketing reason more than really technical...
All 3G mobiles I know of are capable of videocalls. This has become almost standard of 3G phones. Might miss some though, that are not capable of it.
This means most of them have a camera pointing out and another one pointing towards the caller. It might be too big an effort to change the form factor of the P series to accomodate the 2 cameras.
Personally I do not care about videocalls, I want the 3G P1000 for professional use, in order not to need a 3G card for the laptop.
Posted by bart
there is a reason why it won't have 3G
as i worte in the article on my site. SE is slowly upgrading the Pxxx phones. why? because they want to keep the size. as time goes by chips and components can become smaller, they can make way for extra stuff. like WIFI and a 1.3 or 2MP cam. if SE would implant everything then the phone could be twice as big.
P1000 WIFI + MP cam
P1xxx 3G + improved cam + long range bluetooth
P1xxx improved cam + GPS + next generation bluetooth + new storage memory cards.
thats how i see it. by posting this i know that the rival companies now have a clearder vieuw on what SE is doing, but this also clears things out for you guys, so you can stop complaining.
Posted by scotsboyuk
@peejay
I don't think it will be a problem to incorporate a second camera, but perhaps SE don't want to release a 3G smartphone at the moment. Perhaps they have plans for such a device for later next year; they do tend to wait until they have an excellent product to release and not just an ad hoc product to meet immediate demand.
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Posted by etaab
Making the P1000 3G whilst still including all the functions we want wont affect the size of the phone i dont think. Anyone who has handled the Moto A1000 will know its rather small compared to the A925 before it, and includes many of the functions we'd like to see in the P1000.
If SE dont make the P1000 3G, i think it'll be simply to keep costs down. Who'd buy a P series phone that would cost significantly more than the previous P series phones when they were released ?
I think if SE were to include video calls into a 3G handset, i think they'd be better off including a motion eye camera like the V800's that rotates rather than two fixed cameras.
Posted by scotsboyuk
@etaab
I've always thought that rotating cameras make candybar mobiles look rather cheap.
Posted by etaab
But this is SE we're talking about, the kings of style !
Lets face it, when it comes to style, you cant beat the Swedish with their designs.
Posted by bart
a rotable cam would be the best option, it would aslo be cheaper.
but where would we place it? how much would it affect the design?
a 2nd cam would also be a good option, or maby even the best.
Posted by scotsboyuk
@etaab
I'm not a fan of swiveling cameras on candybar mobiles, the overall effect, in my opinion, is quite tacky, Swedish or not.
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Posted by ljf881
My personal guess, p1000 will be 3G. From a swedish way of thinking, SE has always been the one to deliver the solutions you want, but maybe not att the desired price. My guess, they will delivere close to expectation, but at a high price. It's an engineers way of thinking...
Posted by bart
UCSE got intel from a very good source that the P1000 won't have 3G.
no company can make the perfect phone, they can only improve it bit by bit to make sure that what they got already is working flawless
Posted by peejay
The camera solution on the Moto A1000 is possibly the best for a smartphone, and it is the solution a 3G P1000 should use. Please do not make it a rotating cam! It would look like a cheap toy.
A good camera at the back, and a cheap camera at the front is the best.
Posted by energetic
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Yes this reminds me the T68 and T68i story back then.
Posted by Clearday
I imagine this one;Pda-Digicam-Mobile in same product...
just like this;
-uiq 3 and symbian 8.0 or 8.x,
-262k
-touchscreen(pen useable)
-bluetooth,irda,usb,gprs,
-html 4.0,4.1,
-office files (word,excel,powerpoint,access)can have been managed,readable and writeable,pdf files...
-well 3 dimension gpu (graphics accelerator for fun games)
-3-4 mpx with 2x optical zoom(or 3x),waterproof(at least 5 meters-10 meters)
-3g,edge
looks like notebook,yeah u right,and more(with digicam)
well it s just a dream...and I dream in...(just for a moment)
So u call this p1000 or p2000(I think it s p2000 and goes to p3000,p4000)
Posted by methylated_spirit
Rotating cameras are okay, but they arent "serious". Maybe a 1.3mp cam for your photos and stuff, where the cam is at the moment, and a cam similar to the existing one, on the front, for 3g calls?
Posted by amnesia
well i've got the A1000 for free.
Do all 3G phones use USIM? or is that only the 3 network?
If so, I soooo want to get a P1K
Posted by aremaboy
I have no dream of having P1000 or something,I have no money..that's it.
Posted by mustafabay
Maybe if SE would consider a cheap smartphone. Till then I'm with aremaboy and don't have the money
Posted by Satsuma
It's no surprise that the next P-series is unlikley to be 3G.
Someone made the point earlier about size and they have a point.
Yes I know the A1000 is compact but Motorola invested heavily in building 3G phones and they have more 3G phones on the market and in the pipeline than all of their rivals in GSM territories. They are further up the learning curve.
Also the P-series is beloved of business people that travel a lot - there isn't great 3G coverage/roaming available yet.
But GPRS is now very widespread as ar WiFi hotspots in hotels, airports and train stations.
Easier to download e-mail headers over GPRS and heavy duty things like attachments over WiFi.
3G also affects battery life and you will also get dropped calls because the technology of both netwrok and handset is still relatively immature.
So it makes sense for next P-series to be an incremental improvement over the P910i. I would hope that it is available early in Q2.
Posted by Aivar
World first 5-band (system) phone would be nice:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900/3G.
GSM-users would be happy and 3G-lovers also
Posted by D_G
Aivar,
how are you mate?
whats happening?
Posted by Jake Blues
ok, but 5 band would put the price through the roof wouldnt it?
Posted by tindo196
se might bring out a good phone in 05,dont hold your breath on that with 04 as an example that might not happen might just get some updates -which they seem increasingly good at ie clara,p910,k500 aimed at different segments of the market but all very similar to previous se phones and of course a few updates.
Posted by pachy
I am looking forward to the next P series, i am hoping for a slim, ergonomic phone with larger touch screen, minimum 1.3 cam, Wi Fi, nice big internal memory, 1gig Duo compat, adjustable intensity screen light, timed press jog (IE as P910 but different menus can be accessed with one, two or three fast ckicks, vastly increasing jogdials usefullness),
i will not buy it if its 3G, 3G was finished before it started in my book its a silly commercial standard that will be quickly overtaken,
i do want built in GPS but i think thats asking too much .
I also want a worldwide standard for incorporating a "whats my blood group" button( Failing this an Epitaph recaller) & i want the phone security DNA matched to me.
Posted by abritten
Can't wait til they get the glitches out of the P910i. I may as well have a yard brush for the use this thing is at present. (See P910i Touch Screen Locked Out).
Posted by govigov
That is 5band, that is quadband with 3g. Afaik, only moto posses technology to make quadband phones. (Correct me if i am wrong.) :-)
Posted by vineet_d
I am desperately waiting for a upgrade for my k700i, I have decided to go for 6630 as p910 is the phone which I cant afford right now
I need your suggestions...should I wait for this new Pxxx series or should I buy a 6630 and later on can sell it for p910 or this new P series 
Posted by Rva@
Govigov wrote ; That is 5band, that is quadbandwith 3g. Afaik, only motoposses technology to makequadband phones. (Correct meif i am wrong.) :-) What about V800 ...? :lol: