Posted by Tahir Ally
MTN always charged for delivery reports.I knew about it for 18 months ago.........The last time i mentioned MTN slashed DATA prices.What i did not say is Vodacom is still cheaper on data rates. MTN has 3 bundels ,10meg,100meg and 1gig if you go outside bundels Voda is cheaper......Check the press tomorrow MTN is launching there new data rates...........Why wait for MTN to launch 3G when Voda rates are cheaper or by the way MTN will be launching EDGE in June when they have 3G
Posted by brix25
@Tahir: You're starting to sound like a stuck record. Does Vodacom pay you for all the free publicity?
MTN haven't even officially released their price plans for GPRS and guess who's already slating them?
I don't favour any companies...if it's encourages more people to use GPRS/EDGE/3G it will be good for South Africans....but seemingly Tahir doesn't see the bigger picture and would rather slate a company for actually bringing down it GPRS rates.
[ This Message was edited by: brix25 on 2005-04-09 16:17 ]
Posted by Rhino8
Ya, i agree with brix. Anything that increase the sa wap users is a bargain.
@tahir why dont you start an email newsLetter?
Posted by Tahir Ally
Here are MTN NEW DATA RATES:10megs-R10 out of bundels R2a meg,100 megs R100 out of bundels R1.50 a meg and 1 Gig R500 out of bundels R1.25 a meg.....I know MTN 10 meg is cheap but when you go out of MTN bundels they are expensive.I will show you now if you go over by 50 megs on MTN 100 bundel you will pay R175 where as Voda has a package for 150meg for only R149.MTN screws you by R25.If you do 2 megs with MTN it will cost you R1750 with Voda a 2gig will cost you R1198....MTN screws you by R552 . The problem with MTN at the moment is they dont have 9 bundels like Voda.......It just show you MTN did not do they home work properly........Wait for MTN to release there prices tomorrow and when you work it out like what i done you will see MTN is screwing you.On paper MTN sounds cheap but when your bundels are finnished you are SCREWED.Just work it out tomorrow and you will C for yourself and then you can tell me if i am talking CRAP.............Vodacom will always lead others just fail
Posted by brix25
Instead of bitching about being screwed you should welcome the fact that data rates are being lowered. Not many people, especially those on contract, will jump ship to Vodacom for "cheaper" data rates.
Posted by Tahir Ally
@ Brix well you don't work for Voda or own a Vodacom store how do you know that customers are not moving from other networks to Vodacom.Vodacom is activating more customers on there network than MTN and Cell C.Voda has the lowest churn rate.Why? Because Vodacom is always the 1st in everything and good customer care.I know previously on this forum you said Vodacom has the best customer service.Well i got news for you from this year May,Vodacom Customer care will be even better.Vodacom SP and Vodacom the network will be one entity........In the PIPE LINE i know KBR786 is going to go mad when he sees this VODACOM IS GOING TO LAUNCH DATA BUNDLES VOUCHERS FOR PREPAID AND TOP UP CUSTOMERS.......Voda launched SMS bundels for prepaid customers in DEC 04 till now MTN did notting and they charge you for delivery reports.Our MMS is 80 cents for 100KB MTN is R2 for 5kb..........People might callme MTN basher but these are FACTS
Posted by brix25
@Tahir:LOL...I never bashed any company but then again I don't have a vested interest... you own a Vodacom shop and It's your business to trash MTN. I'd like to networks offer unlimited GPRS(wap) for a standard fee.
Posted by Tahir Ally
@Brix i did not say you are a company BASHER i said people will call me a BASHER.Data rates will come down in the near future and get DEAD CHEAP.I can only see a FLAT RATE UNLIMITED USAGE on GPRS in 2-4 years time or maybe it will never come.When other broadband companies have the same blanket coverage like Voda and MTN may then it will happen.The other thing you must think of is MOBILITY
Posted by Rhino8
Tahir, i hav to corect u there, MTN charges R2 for MMS for 100 kb not 5.
Another thing, and i love voda, but MTN CUSTOMER CARE PHONES YOU BACK, no holding for 10 minutes, u log ur call and the system tells u that u will be phoned back in x minutes. . .
Posted by Tahir Ally
@Rhino Vodacom Customer Care 082111,082114,0821082(all goes to the same place) helps both contract and prepaid customers on anything.With MTN 173 they only help prepaid customers but contracts customers only network problem.I have tested MTN call back systems in both busy and quiet times and they dont call back in the time they promised .Vodacom Customer Care will call you back within 24hrs Guaranteed if not sooner but you must log a Fault and they must give you a ref no.Vodacom call centres quietest time is between 12:00pm to 16:00.MTN has 1 prepaid and the other you must contact your SP.Voda customer care goes to one place so there customer care centre is more busy than MTN plus Vodacom subscriber base is 2 times the size off MTN.Like i said before customer care will be getting better from MAY with Vodacom.Only Vodacom gives you a 2 year warranty on hansets,have more repair centres than MTN.Cell C has 1 repair centre.Only Vodacom has walk in customer care centre.You see VODACARES.
Posted by celltech
@Tahir, I see your'e a vodaman, its a shame Vodacom couldn't launch 3g by themselves, they had to bring in Vodafone to launch it for them, the reason is they jumped the gun knowing MTN was to launch and they didn't have the expertise and infrastructure to go with it by themselves,,,,,,shame they say they are africa's no. 1 network, makes you think........and about the 2 year warranty its all nonsense, my brother took his handset to Vodaworld which is 8 months old, they told him its out of warranty because it had some dings and scratches, I like to know which vodacom customer has never dropped or dented their handset in the 2 year period that they had it, you see it's only to market their brand, that's all............
Posted by Tahir Ally
@ Celltech Vodafone has 35% shares in Vodacom 4 da past 10 years it will have a say in what Voda does.Infact Vodafone wants 2 buy Vodacom from TELKOM.DID U KNOW MTN WAS ONLY GOING 2 LAUNCH 3G in 2006 bcause Voda launched it DEC04 they jumped 2 it + Cell C mentioned they will launch 3G in June05 but i dont think this will happend...Get a copy of ITweb Brainstorm mag Sep 04.MTN states clearly "MTN WILL ONLY LAUNCH 3G WHEN SA IS READY & we might launch 3G by June 05 and latest 2006"MTN'S Group CTO KAREL PIENAAR said in the same article if Vodacom launches a viable 3G soloution by Dec04 "I'll EAT MY HAT"Mrl Pienaar will b EATING HIS YELLO HAT UNTILL MTN LAUNCH 3G. Voda said why wait 6 months 2 a year when da tech is available NOW.....Coming back 2 your phone.Any phone that has been dropped & has signs off abuse will VOID YOUR WARRANTY.Look it up in your handset manual + Vodacare terms and conditions are stuck on every phone Vodacom sell.......I ONLY POST FACTS & NOT "HOT AIR"
Posted by Tahir Ally
Sorry for the inconvienance MTN has delayed the launch of there new data packages until Monday 09 April 05.Maybe they will give Voda a run for its money
Posted by Rhino8
I say again, i am a proud voda customer, but the warrenty is shit. They are very reluctant to fix warrenty handsets, and i had lots of friends that was told that its water damage, coz that aint covered in the warrenty. If they then hand it in somewhere else, its detected that THERE IS NO WATERDAMAGE.
Explain that!
Posted by mario2002
@Tahir On my calendar there is no such date as Monday the 9-th April ;-) Only in may the 9-th is on a moday :-)
Posted by brix25
MTN will announce the new price plans today(Sunday) but it will only take effect from tomorrow.
Posted by Tahir Ally
@Rhino You said you took your phones to another place for repairs after repairs.DID YOU SEND IT TO THE MANUFACTURER. or to NON AUTHORISED REPAIR CENTRE.The agents will not repair a liquid damaged phone because it will give problems later and the manufacturer will not pay them.................Sorry for saying MTN will advertise there new rates on MONDAY but in most of my previous post i said SUNDAY
Posted by Rhino8
@tahir, the whole point is that vodacom said it wap water damage, in more than 1 case while a 3rd party, an authorised centre could find no liquid damage in any of the phones, but well other larger manufacturer faults.
Posted by Tahir Ally
Did you see MTN BLACKBERRY offerings....They will give the BB7290 @ R358pm with no free minutes and 3 months FREE sending and receiving emails.Vodacom gives you FREE UNLIMITED SENDING AND RECEIVING EMAILS @R349 +100 free anytime minutes.......This is the power of Vodacom and Vodafone.
Posted by brix25
See MTN has followed the trend of branding the Blackberry. @Tahir: What's the deal with GSM phones being Vodafone branded(Moto V520)...Saw it in the Sunday Times.
Posted by Tahir Ally
@Brix Some phones are Vodafone exclusive when they are branded.When you buy a Vodafone branded phone you can take advantage of the global and exclusive content like FERRARI,ManUNITED, etc.I know you dont like branded phones but in future you will see them everywhere in SA.Vodafone Live portal was made available on 8 APRIL but will be LAUNCHED 17 APRIL 05 next Sunday......ITS GOING TO BE BIG........WHO OFFERS FREE BROWSING.YOU CAN BROWSE THE IOL PORTAL FOR FREE only from Vodacom Vodafone
Posted by brix25
I won't be buying branded phones and I don't like either Ferarri or Manure... There'll be a gap in the market for unbranded phones.
Posted by Tahir Ally
It time to come if you buy a none branded handset you will be buying a GREY IMPORT................SEND SMS FOR ONLY 25cents,push to talk technology+ instant messaging coming soon to SA by Fantastic1.Visit www. fantastic1.co.za for more info
Posted by brix25
This would be a good case for the Competition Commission. Forcing consumers to buy branded phones with portals that "lock in" users is surely uncompetitive. This is what we can expect if Vodafone buys Vodacom...which hopefully never happens.
Posted by Tahir Ally
WHO said a Vodafone branded handset cannot browse other sites.Its no such thing.Its very competitive to give free browsing,NO ONE IN SA IS DO IT.Imagine reading any newspaper independent news paper prints free on you cell phone.......ITS GOING TO BE VERY BIG.IF everyone buys a branded hanset imagine whats going to happen to companies like EXACTMOBILE..................COME ALIVE WITH VODAFONE LIVE! Hehe hehe
Posted by JK
@mario + others
you mentioned MTN service levels... i honestly think you made that up just to spite tahir, no 1 gets good or even decent service from MTN, thats actually the stats and its in the financial mail june '04.
my moms on MTN, the service with - when u dial 808... is pathetic even on upgrades, voda gives away the top phones on lower packages on upgrades where as MTN you have to pay in alot.. eg; e700 last year was free on voda weekend but R600 pay in on mycall 100!!
as for the warranty if you trying to take advantage of the system then ofcourse they wont help you!
iv had excellent service even though I broke the phones 50% on purpose and 50% mistake, it wasnt supposed to break that bad but any way they gave me a 6210 for my broken 5210!!!
that actually forced my step dad to get a vodashop cos he was amazed at their proffesional service... but thats just my experiences
Posted by CodeMaster
Well I was due for an upgrade yesterday, and have been waiting patiently for over 3 months to get a V800.
To my surprise, it was launched Thursday 7 April, just in time I thought to myself. Sunday morning I go along to Vodaworld with all my documents ready. Go straight into the Vodacom4me shop, and to my horror ~ SOLD OUT. Go across to Vodashop ~ SOLD OUT. Go to Voda Customer Care ~ SOLD OUT. They recon that they'll only recieve new stock in about 2 weeks. F@$K
Now really pissed off, I go along to the SE shop to have a chat to them. While in the shop, someone else came in to have a look at the working V800. He said that he had just come from one of the shops, and they had said that he can get one, IF he is prepared to pay R700...WTF. He was on a Talk500, so the phone should have been FREE.
Something tells me that some VERY dubious employee's are taking advantage of the LIMITED stock.
To make matters even worse, they did not have stock of a Sumsung D500, which is what my GF wants.
Sorry for the rant, just me venting....
Posted by brix25
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I suppose you can browse sites but would Vodafone allow you to download, say mp3's from sites. The answer is no, ask anyone on Vodafone 3G in the UK.
Posted by JK
@CODEMASTER + BRIX
cod- its very difficult to get a d500 they are selling like 3310 for R10!!!
stock lasts up to 2 weeks... the v800 as well iv seen at least 4 other people with it already and we only got it on thur...
brix are you sure?? never tried it!
JUST DOWNLOADED A video from videomoby!!!!!!!!!!!!
so guess u wrong mr brix!!
[ This Message was edited by: 786KBR on 2005-04-11 08:38 ]
Posted by Tahir Ally
I will agree with KBR786.The D500 is the fastest selling phone in SA..........................................If you have any problems doing upgrades for the V800.Please contact the upgrade dep on 0821959.......Stores might have stock but might only sell them for new lines....I have the vodafone portal address if KBR786 allows me to put it here i will post it.Sabc123,etv and Mnet are there.
Posted by JK
vodafone live is launching in a cuople of days and there was a kid in the centre wearing a voda live shirt and sum voda guy told him to take it of and put on a blackberry shirt any way thats how they feel.... vlive is launching on the 17
@tahir
im not stoping you and its 786 then KBR!!
Posted by Dragonfly_TP
Spreekt iemand Afrikaans?
Posted by Rhino8
Almal van ons kan ckr afr prt. Or i hope so!
Posted by JK
ek hou nie van afrikaans nie,
actually its coz im not very fluent...
Posted by Tahir Ally
Sorry 786 KBR.Here is the Vodafone portal address:Http:live.vodafone.com.Free browsing might only work if you buy a Vodafone Live handset......Theres not much on this portal yet but Vodacom will be adding more links in future....Vodafone Live is going to be BIG when its launched
Posted by Rhino8
Well its my mother language, but i never use it anymore....
Posted by Tahir Ally
Vodacom will not have the Nokia 6630 on their network because it does not have a video camera for 3g................Nokia 6680 will be available in MAY 05 and it will be branded.
Posted by CodeMaster
Just picked up my V800...
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Posted by Tahir Ally
Good choice CODEMASTER.........
Posted by mario2002
Tahir, will I be able to access the Vodafone Live portal from a unbranded 6680? My brother will send me one from Germany in a few weeks.Do you think is better to buy one in SA ?Have you got a price in Rand or Euro yet ? En ja ek praat ook Afrikaans, maar allmal skryf Engels,so 'I go with the flow'.Eientlik ek verkies Deutsch. Groete van Jeffreysbaai.
Posted by Rhino8
Well the url tahir posted for voda life aint working, for me at least.... Not yet.
Posted by JK
THE official launch is on the 17 but it does work and only from a voda live branded fone.... buy it here its not badly priced...
the nokia 3230 ( i think ) will be the cheapest then maybe the SE f500i
[ This Message was edited by: 786KBR on 2005-04-12 09:54 ]
Posted by brix25
Finally I'm back on my precious
Posted by CodeMaster
Well this is my first post from my V800.
Loving it so far. Battery life is no where near as good as my T68i, but I can live with it
Posted by brix25
@CodeMaster: What's the browser on the phone like? Any glitches that you've picked up this far( ok, it's only been a day).
Posted by CodeMaster
It is really nice to FINALLY have a xHTML browser, compared to WAP on my T86i.
I seem to be getting more network errors now as well, and I can't seem to connect at all now via GPRS at work, where as on my T68i I only had problems now and then. Hopefully when Vodacom upgrades the towers near my home & work to 3G, maybe things will improve
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Always borrow money from a pessimist... They never expect to get it back.
[ This Message was edited by: CodeMaster on 2005-04-14 19:20 ]
Posted by Rhino8
Im having kak gprs at da mo too, i think thats why this forum been so slow lately....
Posted by Tahir Ally
I was not posting anything because i was damn busy...........Selling 3G on upgrades and new customers from other networks signing on for 3g.I am selling more 3g products now than it was launhed.I dont know what will happen after Sunday when Vodafone Live is launched.......I am not bragging but ask any vodacom shop hows business.They well tell you we are busy............I spoke to vodacom network guys this morning and they told me they started the phase 2 rollout for 3g and they are rolling out quicker than what they expected.
Posted by JK
G P R S I S F L I P P I N S L O W ! !
i agree 3g is officially rolling out, i think its because the more loved brands are out ie; samsung, SE, etc.... and the fact they are on lower contracts like t100 and t200!!! the prices are drrroppping!!!!
[ This Message was edited by: 786KBR on 2005-04-15 07:31 ]
Posted by brix25
What are all you guys bitching about? GPRS has worked perfectly down here in Cape Town...no hassles, just normal connection speeds.